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| entil | sigh, 100% of the apps I got so far from apk-dl.com require google's services to run :< | 08:00 |
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| entil | shouldn't be surprising, but it is a bit | 08:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | googles got its claws into all the things | 08:01 |
| entil | you'd think it's possible to write android software more generically, maybe that's what i'm getting at | 08:05 |
| r0kk3rz | possible sure, but nobody cares about that | 08:05 |
| entil | wonder how well NOGAPPS might work here | 08:05 |
| entil | I'm just happy duolingo and skype run on the tablet, which reminds me I should install skype on the phone too | 08:06 |
| entil | not sure what the apps usually expect from the services but NOGAPPS pretty much says it's not usable yet | 08:07 |
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| leszek | entil: pro tip. Don't use apk-dl but yalp and f-droid instead | 08:29 |
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| entil | leszek: what's wrong with apk-dl? but I'm looking into installing f-droid now because then I might get the microg packages and see what happens | 08:34 |
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| entil | victory at sea! I did get one (1) app launched that previously failed, after I installed microg from f-droid | 08:47 |
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| entil | protonmail also works just a bit better, though it complains on startup as well | 08:48 |
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| entil | ooh, it notices new email and all that | 08:55 |
| entil | of course I'd prefer the protonmail bridge on linux and using the native email client, but this'll do just fine | 08:56 |
| leszek | entil: apk-dl uses the apk-dl website. yalp uses the google servers and is an app instead of a website | 08:58 |
| leszek | its easier to keep up2date with yalp | 08:58 |
| entil | leszek: fair enough | 08:58 |
| entil | but this microg shit is niiiii-ice | 08:59 |
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| entil | except that the nordea codes app notices the phone is "rooted/jailbroken" and refuses to start | 09:00 |
| leszek | entil: you could make a howto install microg on talk.maemo.org or tjc | 09:12 |
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| entil | leszek: hmm, I could, but it was pretty much "just do it", and also that I used apk-dl and rebooted later, so I don't have scientific accuracy in my findings | 09:54 |
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| entil | leszek: wtf! wtf no! no no no no NO! I posted a reply to https://together.jolla.com/question/117350/microg-on-alien-dalvik/ and tjc died | 10:20 |
| entil | does the link work for anyone? | 10:20 |
| leszek | entil: calm down. calm down. Just wait and see if it managed to save this post | 10:20 |
| leszek | happened to me to. Posting then occured several minutes later | 10:21 |
| entil | I might have looked into a thread on tmo but it doesn't have ssl so I can't be arsed to log in there | 10:22 |
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| entil | https://together.jolla.com/question/117350/microg-on-alien-dalvik/?answer=171562#post-id-171562 | 10:42 |
| entil | it did get posted, but sorry about the vagueness | 10:42 |
| entil | hopefully this will inspire proper research ;) | 10:42 |
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| Tanriol | Where can I find the kernel sources for the Jolla C kernel? Are they available at all? | 12:14 |
| raandoom | Tanriol: https://together.jolla.com/question/138771/kernel-sources-for-jollac/ | 12:24 |
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| Tanriol | raandoom, thank you! Do I understand correctly that fixes to packages that are present in Mer should be contributed there directly? | 12:49 |
| r0kk3rz | Tanriol: yep | 12:50 |
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| linzhi | Hi all. I am currently working on porting sailfish OS to raspberry pi as a hobby of my OS course. I tried flash image provided by @locusf to my rpi3 but it doesnt work. My question is how can I obtain or create a kickstart or image for sailfish OS on rpi3? | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | you'd need to build it yourself | 13:02 |
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| escogido | I want to install sailfishos on my fairphone2 with fpos 1.8.1, wasn't sure if I needed to do the steps concerning "having a battery drain" at https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_fp2 | 15:26 |
| escogido | or just do "Sailfish OS installation" part of instructions there | 15:27 |
| mal | yes, you will need to older firmware | 15:30 |
| escogido | mal: so just do the four steps related to http://storage.googleapis.com/fairphone-updates/FP2-gms59-1.5.1-manual.zip | 15:31 |
| escogido | not the steps related to installing android via fastboot like flashing system and recovery right? (I am well familiar with android) | 15:32 |
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| mal | escogido: well obviously you need to install the correct android version as base at some point | 15:44 |
| mal | you just need to replace the firmware | 15:44 |
| escogido | sure, seemed like FPOS 1.8.1 was the correct android version already so didn't know what else I needed to do | 15:45 |
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| escogido | so basically I have to revert some of the flash partitions to an earlier version via the FP2-gms59-1.5.1 images. I'll try that. Thanks! | 15:49 |
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| Tourdetour | How many people are using sailfish os here ? | 17:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | 4 | 17:33 |
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| escogido | I just installed it. seems to work pretty well :) | 18:38 |
| escogido | happily installing screen, tmux, irssi if it is available. | 18:39 |
| Krikke | for x? | 18:39 |
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| escogido | well... was going to use it in the terminal, irssi that is... but it's not in openrepos or mer-tools so... will try the IRC app. | 18:45 |
| r0kk3rz | escogido: it'll be on OBS | 18:46 |
| escogido | so add OBS with "ssu ar ..." somehow? or ? sorry... trying to RTFM ;) | 18:47 |
| r0kk3rz | http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/ced117:/mer/latest_armv7hl/armv7hl/ | 18:47 |
| escogido | how did you find that? | 18:48 |
| r0kk3rz | searched the webui https://build.merproject.org/ | 18:48 |
| escogido | 👍 | 18:48 |
| r0kk3rz | you can also sign up and build things on there yourself | 18:48 |
| r0kk3rz | its a nice way for the community to help each other out | 18:49 |
| escogido | cool. So do I add a repo to pkcon/ssu or just DL and install? | 18:49 |
| * escogido coming mostly from a linux/debian background of apt | 18:50 | |
| r0kk3rz | you can do either | 18:50 |
| r0kk3rz | like for that one you'd want to do a ssu ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/ced117:/mer/latest_armv7hl/ | 18:51 |
| escogido | thank you ;) sweating it out here trying to think... ;) makes sense... so any URL that includes a .repo file basically? | 18:52 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 18:55 |
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| escogido | got it. Really like this fairphone2 w/ sailfishos. :) | 18:55 |
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| escogido | sorry... the added repos are disabled... where is #ssu? ;) | 19:02 |
| r0kk3rz | did you pkcon refresh? | 19:05 |
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| escogido | yeah... if I do "ssu lr" the ones I added are in Disabled... and the packages are not there for "pkcon search name irssi" or "pkcon install irssi" for example. | 19:06 |
| escogido | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OtyJoSmX/ | 19:06 |
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| escogido | following some advice at https://together.jolla.com/question/58859/solved-cant-install-or-update-any-packages-pkcon-refresh-failed/ | 19:08 |
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| escogido | got it working but was sad to miss a few key apps like keepass2, slack (irssi/irc could work), google calendar, did like the built-in email app might give it another shot using the browser for those missing bits, also will RTFM a bunch more. | 21:55 |
| Lieke | there's ownkeepass | 22:00 |
| mal | escogido: there is an unofficial slack app also | 22:01 |
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| escogido | yes, I tried both. ownkeepass didn't work too well and the slack app asked for creepy privileges. :) It's all good. I like linux and will probably just use sailfishos for a while and gradually make my own pared down OS (worked on a CLI only version on FirefoxOS before that I'd like to rework) | 22:26 |
| pavi[m] | there is slack app but no matrix app, what kind of world is SFOS into :( | 22:29 |
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