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| leszek | which repository do I need to add if I want to build an app for i486 sailfishos? | 09:53 |
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| leszek | on merobs of course | 09:53 |
| leszek | "Mer i486 (generic 32bit x86) port (Latest)" ? | 09:54 |
| mal | leszek: there is a sailfish:latest i486 | 09:58 |
| mal | *sailfishos | 09:59 |
| leszek | mal: hmm... where ? I only have SailfishOS latest and that apparently builds only arm stuff | 10:02 |
| leszek | mal: https://abload.de/img/screenshot_20170902_180ude.png | 10:03 |
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| mal | leszek: go to advanced interface (link at the top) then type sailfishos:latest to the first field, select latest_i486 from the second and modify the target name in the third if you want | 10:07 |
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| mal | and finally select the i586 architecture | 10:08 |
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| leszek | mal: thank you :) | 10:12 |
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| leszek | can someone confirm that setting a ringtone from music library (music on sd card) to an ambiance works as long as you don't reboot the phone. Rebooting the phone resets every ambiance with a custom ringtone with tracks from the music library | 10:57 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: in 2.1.1? | 10:58 |
| leszek | yes in 2.1.1 aswell. I think this problem exists also in previous versions | 10:58 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: lemme check | 10:59 |
| leszek | oh https://together.jolla.com/question/145540/bug-ringtone-chosen-from-sd-music-files-disappears/ | 11:00 |
| leszek | actually https://together.jolla.com/question/5535/favorite-ambiences-disappearingfail-when-based-on-files-on-sd-card-or-android-storage/?sort=votes&page=1 | 11:00 |
| leszek | so thats the issue | 11:00 |
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| Mister_Magister | ah phone just had to not reboot in gui | 11:02 |
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| Ingvix | is there a split view feature yet for the tablet? | 11:32 |
| leszek | nope | 11:33 |
| Ingvix | okay then | 11:33 |
| Ingvix | is there even a promise of such feature yet? | 11:37 |
| r0kk3rz | nope | 11:37 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe one day when someone pays money for it | 11:38 |
| Lieke | when someone pays money for it again :p | 11:38 |
| Ingvix | eh, well one can always dream | 11:40 |
| Ingvix | one way to implement it seems pretty simple in my mind but it's probably more complicated than I picture | 11:43 |
| nh1402 | well if they open source that side of things, then someone could implement it themselves | 11:43 |
| Ingvix | indeed | 11:43 |
| r0kk3rz | it is though, lipstick is what you'd need to muck with | 11:44 |
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| leszek | yep lipstick just needs tiling support for windows :P | 11:47 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: merge i3 and lipstick | 11:52 |
| Mister_Magister | lol | 11:52 |
| Mister_Magister | that would be awesome | 11:53 |
| nh1402 | my one gripe with lipstick is the name | 11:53 |
| leszek | hmm... there is a i3 version for wayland as far as I know. So generally it would be possible to run i3 on SailfishOS directly | 11:53 |
| Mister_Magister | looooool | 11:54 |
| nh1402 | what about Sailfish on the i3? | 11:55 |
| nh1402 | the outside might be hideous but at least the screen(s) on the inside can be cleansed with Sailfish | 11:56 |
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| nh1402 | why don't we brainstorm ideas of how to implement it | 12:00 |
| nh1402 | as Jolla say "Do it together" | 12:00 |
| leszek | we need to have wayland compositor experience for this. I don't have that :P | 12:00 |
| nh1402 | no time like the present to learn | 12:01 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds like a job for nemo anyway | 12:01 |
| leszek | btw. qtwebkit 5.212 is built for i486 and armv7hl now. If anyone want to try it. I am currently trying to build it with html5 audio + video enabled to see if this works | 12:03 |
| leszek | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:leszek/qtwebkit5212 | 12:03 |
| Ingvix | can it do magic? | 12:04 |
| leszek | it does not crash so often and the speed is fast as unicorn farts | 12:05 |
| leszek | Ingvix: basically it is a completely updated JavaScriptCore + WebCore | 12:05 |
| leszek | so based on the revival of qtwebkit | 12:06 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: btw yeah i have this bug | 12:06 |
| leszek | yeah ok so I am not alone with this. Wonder why no one fixed it since 2013 | 12:07 |
| Ingvix | sounds like magic | 12:07 |
| Ingvix | I'm not sure what is is but is it something that the browser, for example, uses? | 12:09 |
| r0kk3rz | not sailfish-browser, but others like webcat webpirate .etc | 12:10 |
| Ingvix | I see | 12:10 |
| leszek | yep. I am testing it currently with webcat | 12:10 |
| leszek | jolla-email also uses it for rendering mails | 12:10 |
| Ingvix | So if I install that, I'm gonna get a faster browsing experience with aforesaid browsers? | 12:11 |
| leszek | yeah you get a more modern browser experience with anything that is based on qtwebkit | 12:12 |
| leszek | so webcat should run smoother (accelerated canvas and smoother scrolling) | 12:12 |
| leszek | also better compatibility with modern sites | 12:13 |
| Ingvix | Okay then. Maybe I try will try some other browser again. The default which I've hold to is quite slow with heavier sites | 12:13 |
| leszek | it all depends on the device you are using of course aswell. On heavier sites the Jolla with 1 GB RAM might struggle when it needs to swap out stuff | 12:14 |
| leszek | Ingvix: though I recommend it only for advanced users who know how to get back to the original qtwebkit version | 12:15 |
| Ingvix | I have aqua fish | 12:15 |
| leszek | as it might introduce trouble with future updates | 12:15 |
| Ingvix | Well I do know how to use pkcon to remove and install | 12:15 |
| leszek | I did not yet test it on the Jolla C | 12:15 |
| leszek | Ingvix: yeah ok then you might also know the pkcon update command which with the correct package names can install the ones from the repos again overwriting my versions :) | 12:16 |
| Ingvix | yes, I'm familiar with it | 12:16 |
| leszek | yeah then feel free to test it | 12:16 |
| leszek | these are the 5 packages you need to install: libqtwebkit5-5.212.0-10.64.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 12:17 |
| leszek | libqtwebkit5-widgets-5.212.0-10.64.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 12:17 |
| leszek | qt5-qtqml-import-webkitplugin-5.212.0-10.64.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 12:17 |
| leszek | qt5-qtqml-import-webkitplugin-experimental-5.212.0-10.64.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 12:17 |
| leszek | qt5-qtwebkit-uiprocess-launcher-5.212.0-10.64.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 12:17 |
| Ingvix | okay, thanks | 12:18 |
| Ingvix | I wonder if any browser for sfos supports playing direct streams from youtube | 12:24 |
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| Ingvix | webpirate or webcat does not | 12:25 |
| Ingvix | or sailfish browser | 12:25 |
| leszek | you mean live streams? | 12:27 |
| leszek | because as far as I know this is disabled for mobile devices in general | 12:27 |
| Mister_Magister | is there xwayland for sfos? | 12:27 |
| leszek | Mister_Magister: not in the repository. But on talk.maemo.org someone built it | 12:28 |
| leszek | and run chromium on SFOS | 12:28 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: can you give me link? i'll search myself if not | 12:28 |
| leszek | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=98882 | 12:29 |
| leszek | it uses a arch linux in chroot though | 12:30 |
| Mister_Magister | then no i3 for sfos :/ | 12:31 |
| Mister_Magister | running programs from chroot is kinda meh | 12:33 |
| Ingvix | yes, I mean live stream. They work on some android browsers at least | 12:33 |
| leszek | the good thing is you don't kill your "host" system | 12:33 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: but run second one | 12:33 |
| leszek | Ingvix: hmm... I tried the current IFA live stream on the Xperia X with Android it tells me please use a desktop browser. Mobile does not support live streams | 12:34 |
| Mister_Magister | like sfdroid whis make no really sense | 12:34 |
| Mister_Magister | i would prefer to compile xwayland for sfos | 12:34 |
| leszek | Mister_Magister: you can try it. Though I guess some dependencies are missing | 12:34 |
| leszek | the other problem would be the touch input on xwayland | 12:35 |
| Ingvix | leszek, firefox for example plays them fine | 12:35 |
| leszek | Ingvix: oh interesting. Let me try it | 12:35 |
| r0kk3rz | running from chroot means you dont need to compile the world for yourself | 12:36 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: it still not what i want | 12:37 |
| leszek | Ingvix: shows me just a big X so I guess does not work | 12:37 |
| Mister_Magister | it's just running apps from chroot | 12:37 |
| Mister_Magister | not form sfos | 12:37 |
| leszek | oh wait it works. Just had to click on the big X to ignore the error | 12:37 |
| r0kk3rz | Mister_Magister: naturally you can do whatever you want | 12:38 |
| Mister_Magister | suure | 12:38 |
| leszek | Ingvix: if its a gecko feature sailfish-browser should support this aswell. At least maybe perhaps it just needs a gecko engine update to something more recent | 12:39 |
| Ingvix | it complains about unsupported video formats and provides a link to faq about html5-videos | 12:40 |
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| leszek | Ingvix: so maybe the format isn't supported. Maybe its VP9 | 12:41 |
| Ingvix | maybe, I don't know much about such formats | 12:42 |
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| leszek | I am also not sure what streaming format youtube uses. I guess its hls but I never bothered to look before | 12:43 |
| leszek | oh nice the i486 build of qtwebkit with html5-audio+video support built | 12:44 |
| leszek | testing ... | 12:44 |
| Ingvix | could that enable live stream support for qtwebkit browsers? | 12:46 |
| Ingvix | don't know if that has anything to do with the incapability of playing them | 12:47 |
| leszek | We'll see. But if its a format problem with gstreamer not supporting it (or jolla not shipping the support for it) not much can be done | 12:47 |
| Ingvix | okay then | 12:48 |
| leszek | Ingvix: does not seem to work. It keeps loading forever | 12:49 |
| Ingvix | bummer | 12:50 |
| leszek | and trying it from youtubes site directly it tells me this client does not support live | 12:51 |
| mal | maybe I should try to add VP9 support to sailfish, I did VP8 before so hopefully I can reuse the code | 12:54 |
| leszek | hmm... html5 video playback seem to work though there is green bar at the bottom. But there is no sound xD | 12:56 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: well there was twitch app so streams should be supported in gstreamer | 12:59 |
| Mister_Magister | well https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:mister/sway starting point :D | 13:00 |
| leszek | streaming in general yes. But there are different streaming methods and formats and so on | 13:00 |
| Mister_Magister | yeah | 13:01 |
| abranson | yeah I think there are a couple of recent ones that we don't have a license for. something mpeg... | 13:01 |
| leszek | so html5 audio shows it shupports everything but I hear nothing when playing stuff back | 13:03 |
| Mister_Magister | steal everything from opensuse obs | 13:04 |
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| leszek | aaaaaah | 13:05 |
| leszek | the volume is set to 0 xD | 13:05 |
| leszek | now I found a player which allows setting the volume and I can hear stuff | 13:05 |
| leszek | though what to do on stuff that does not have a volume slider | 13:05 |
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| leszek | opus , weba support , ogg, wav, mp3 and even flac support :) | 13:06 |
| leszek | video on the other hand a no go | 13:13 |
| leszek | and my tablet overheated | 13:14 |
| Ingvix | you got the jolla tablet? | 13:20 |
| leszek | yes | 13:21 |
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| Ingvix | the youyota tablet should also start delivering this month | 13:22 |
| Ingvix | hopefully | 13:22 |
| leszek | yep. Newer board revision hopefully without the overheating issue | 13:23 |
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| abranson | leszek: what's wrong with the video? | 13:27 |
| r0kk3rz | leszek: i hope many people buy it, its a bit of an old device by now | 13:28 |
| leszek | abranson: youtube embedded videos show a green semi transparent bar at the bottom | 13:33 |
| leszek | other videos just keep forever loading and never play back | 13:33 |
| leszek | r0kk3rz: thats true though performance wise it is still good enough for a tablet | 13:34 |
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| nh1402 | Ingvix: speaking of tablet http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Android-ANV-Vulkan-Support | 13:39 |
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| Mister_Magister | the main problem with sfos is lack of opengl | 14:12 |
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| nh1402 | Mister_Magister: Vulkan is the same on desktop and mobile | 14:43 |
| nh1402 | unlike Opengl | 14:43 |
| nh1402 | as far as I know | 14:43 |
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| Mister_Magister | nh1402: i mean dependencies | 14:51 |
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| leszek | re | 14:52 |
| r0kk3rz | gah why is the bluez documentation so useless | 14:56 |
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| Mister_Magister | wait so you say that i can use bluez5 if i have 3.10 kernel? then why am i using bluez4? | 15:07 |
| Mister_Magister | sfos doesn't have libGL.so.1 | 15:08 |
| Mister_Magister | so porting anything is hard without opengl | 15:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | Mister_Magister: unless you changed your patterns, you will get bluez4 | 15:16 |
| Mister_Magister | oooh | 15:16 |
| r0kk3rz | but if you want, change it to bluez5 and you get that instead | 15:16 |
| Mister_Magister | that's obvious | 15:18 |
| Mister_Magister | :D | 15:18 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah well, sometimes you ask obvious questions to im just being thorough | 15:19 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: i mean the second part. yeah sometimes | 15:20 |
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| leszek | anyone an idea how to make volume of audio & video tags in qtwebkit 1.0 instead of 0.0 xD | 15:52 |
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| Ingvix | quite some time ago there was this conversation about stylus pens and someone linked some premium kind of active stylus and now I'm wondering what was that brand again. | 19:37 |
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| Krikke | how hard would it be to compile synergy for sfos? | 19:56 |
| Krikke | does sailfish even use a xserver? | 19:57 |
| coderus | Krikke: wayland | 19:58 |
| Krikke | ok, does synergy work with that? | 20:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | Krikke: its less about wayland and more about libinput i think | 20:05 |
| r0kk3rz | anyway, looks like no https://github.com/symless/synergy/issues/5803 | 20:06 |
| Krikke | bummer | 20:10 |
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| Mister_Magister_ | unable to create file '/run/user/100000/dconf/user': Permission denied. dconf will not work properly | 21:48 |
| Mister_Magister_ | wut? | 21:48 |
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