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| rubdos | https://forums.crackberry.com/other-mobile-platforms-f147/livermorium-slider-keyboard-smartphone-running-sailfish-os-1117798/ | 09:08 |
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| rubdos | I think I want that | 09:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | then get one | 09:09 |
| r0kk3rz | or await the maginificent chenphone | 09:10 |
| rubdos | "get one" is impossible, it's just announced, no? :P | 09:10 |
| r0kk3rz | oh, that is the chenphone | 09:11 |
| rubdos | But that's even *more* waiting time than the Xperia :( | 09:11 |
| rubdos | lol | 09:11 |
| r0kk3rz | i thought it was the keyboard | 09:11 |
| rubdos | any opinion on that thing? | 09:11 |
| rubdos | is this a legit guy that legitly can build a legit phone? :P | 09:12 |
| rubdos | or is it another dream? | 09:12 |
| r0kk3rz | no idea yet | 09:12 |
| TheKit | rubdos, he is building Moto Keyboard mod first | 09:12 |
| rubdos | I mean, the specs are decent, price is decent, and they hope they can get a decent OS | 09:12 |
| TheKit | let's see if it comes true | 09:12 |
| r0kk3rz | its really really really early days, many things can happen | 09:12 |
| rubdos | damn. That'd really means another year probably? | 09:12 |
| rubdos | Xperia it is | 09:12 |
| * rubdos cries in a corner | 09:12 | |
| r0kk3rz | altervately you can get a moto x and the keyboard he is making | 09:13 |
| TheKit | *moto z (Play) | 09:13 |
| r0kk3rz | sorry, yeah that one | 09:13 |
| rubdos | does that thing run SFOS? | 09:13 |
| rubdos | Because I'd rather have a Motorola | 09:14 |
| rubdos | since I'm Lenovo partner... ;P | 09:14 |
| rubdos | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=99669 | 09:14 |
| rubdos | since six days lol | 09:14 |
| TheKit | but no Android support easily | 09:15 |
| rubdos | Oh wait, you're TheKit from TheKit on that thread | 09:15 |
| rubdos | hehe | 09:15 |
| rubdos | TheKit: the only thing I would require is support until I buy that Livermorium thing | 09:16 |
| TheKit | I mean that SailfishOS is, well, hard to use without Android apps | 09:17 |
| rubdos | I don't really care about Android apps :) | 09:17 |
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| rubdos | I've had my Jolla 1 for long enough to know that | 09:18 |
| rubdos | TheKit: " Known not to work yet: video recording and playing" -> is that a solvable issue? | 09:21 |
| rubdos | or "probable solvable"? :') | 09:21 |
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| TheKit | I fixed video recording in camera already, but there are issues with playing it | 09:22 |
| TheKit | YouTube works in WebCat/WebPirate, but not in stock browser | 09:23 |
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| rubdos | interesting. Why's that; driver? | 09:28 |
| rubdos | oh, almost forgot to ask: can I help porting it, given that I first go out and actually buy the device? | 09:29 |
| TheKit | авг 08 15:58:53 <mal>NeKit: I think the problem is that browser uses i420 chroma sampling but some devices nowadays do not like that | 09:30 |
| TheKit | авг 08 15:59:11 <mal>NeKit: gallery uses yv12 which works fine | 09:30 |
| TheKit | авг 08 16:00:09 <mal>NeKit: I have understood that other browsers might work fine | 09:30 |
| rubdos | roger that | 09:31 |
| rubdos | so the browser would need to use yuv12, and that's probably a pita? | 09:31 |
| TheKit | well, sure, I'll have all the repos needed to build the port on GitHub | 09:33 |
| TheKit | likely | 09:33 |
| r0kk3rz | you'd have to provide your own browser build... or convince jolla to fix it | 09:33 |
| rubdos | Dear Jolla, fix it. | 09:34 |
| rubdos | ? :) | 09:34 |
| nh1402 | TheKit: out of interest, have you tried applying the necessary kernel patches to get anbox working on the Z play? | 09:37 |
| TheKit | didn't get to it yet | 09:37 |
| TheKit | it has kernel 3.18 though | 09:38 |
| nh1402 | it should be a heck of a lot easier to work then | 09:38 |
| nh1402 | well easier than phones with 3.4 kernel, which I have no idea what's not working and how to fix it | 09:38 |
| rubdos | TheKit: feel free to tag me now and then when you have something of interest. I'd love to join in porting a bit, if it has a future. | 09:42 |
| TheKit | https://github.com/anbox/anbox/tree/master/kernel/patches - these patches? | 09:42 |
| Mister_Magister | nh1402: now i have moto x force so kernel would apply nicely for anbox | 09:42 |
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| rubdos | I have to fetch some food now, and then got to catch a flight. | 09:42 |
| TheKit | rubdos, ok, have a nice flight :) | 09:43 |
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| rubdos | meh, still 45min 'til boarding | 10:10 |
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| mal | rubdos: actually it's the gstreamer plugin of gecko web engine that forces i420 | 10:25 |
| mal | rubdos: I know the exact place where it's done | 10:25 |
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| rubdos | mal: so it *is* fixable? ;-) | 14:07 |
| rubdos | (sorry, airplanes don't wait, usually) | 14:07 |
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| rinigus | Mister_Magister: I packaged today mimic and picotts, available @OBS. compared to your spec, mimic is installed in /usr/bin and there are devel packages as well. however, since it doesn't work anyway, I removed alsa sound output from mimic. | 16:44 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: so, the both packages provide tts functionality via wav files. | 16:45 |
| Mister_Magister | rinigus: my was old and spec was fast made to just compile | 16:45 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: yes, but it was good for testing :) | 16:46 |
| Mister_Magister | yep | 16:46 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: as for languages, it turns out that mimic/flite has very limited language support. at present, we have only english and, as far as I can see, mimic will get spanish in near future | 16:47 |
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| mal | rubdos: most things are fixable, it just a matter how much work those will take to fix | 16:48 |
| Mister_Magister | rinigus: yeah i've seen that too | 16:48 |
| Mister_Magister | he can load .flitevox voices though | 16:49 |
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| Mister_Magister | and some htsomething | 16:49 |
| Mister_Magister | but tthere is not a lot of them | 16:49 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: its very little. picotts does provide few additional languages though | 16:50 |
| Mister_Magister | rinigus: what about quality? i just found best english quality in mimic that's all | 16:50 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: you can try :) get picotts from OBS (my home repo) and see if its OK. Its not ass good as mimic "ap" voice, but better than few others, I think. picotts covers de, es, fr, and it. | 16:52 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: picotts is from android, its open source solution. | 16:52 |
| Mister_Magister | "Its not ass good" yeah good opinion :D | 16:52 |
| Mister_Magister | ap is no good | 16:52 |
| Mister_Magister | slt is best | 16:52 |
| Mister_Magister | yeah if sound would be good then picotts would be better | 16:53 |
| Mister_Magister | de, es, fr, it are most common ones | 16:53 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: true, but don't know whether its all most common for sfos. fi/se/ru are missing | 16:54 |
| Mister_Magister | there is nothing much you can actually can do using tts don't u think? | 16:55 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: but well, its a start. I'll probably upload mimic and picotts to openrepos ... | 16:55 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: voice commands during navigation, that you can with tts | 16:55 |
| Mister_Magister | i mean when you are using opensource tts there isn't many voices | 16:56 |
| Mister_Magister | and quality is not best too | 16:56 |
| Mister_Magister | we are forced to use english only or that picotts | 16:57 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: there is MaryTTS and quite good. check their voices at http://mary.dfki.de:59125/ . | 16:57 |
| Mister_Magister | there is not much you can do about that | 16:57 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: but MaryTTS is running on java (however seems to use only 400-500MB RAM), so its, in theory, portable | 16:58 |
| Mister_Magister | "ONLY" | 16:58 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: if you want a good voice, you have to use techniques that require some ram. probably can be reduced, but up to some limit. [chatted with one person from the field] | 16:59 |
| Mister_Magister | rinigus: 500MB and phone | 16:59 |
| Mister_Magister | you are not being serious | 16:59 |
| Mister_Magister | like mimic eats 50MB or something and have voice almost better than google | 17:00 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: look at the phones your are using for porting. :) | 17:00 |
| Mister_Magister | rinigus: but the point of sailfish is to run on lowend | 17:00 |
| Mister_Magister | because it's lightweight | 17:00 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: I am not going to port marytts - at least not now. for me, english is sufficient and mimic is good with it. | 17:01 |
| Mister_Magister | There is my opinion: Use mimic and/or picotts and/or ask community to record their voices for navigation | 17:01 |
| Mister_Magister | the second would be awesome idea though | 17:01 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: there is a little catch with the voice recordings - commands depend on routing engine that you use and, in case of valhalla/mapzen, you get street names into commands. | 17:02 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: so, I have to use TTS | 17:02 |
| Mister_Magister | we can standarise it | 17:03 |
| Mister_Magister | and remove street names | 17:03 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: I'll probably stick to mimic and picotts for now. its already working quite nicely, I must say | 17:04 |
| Mister_Magister | try slt voice it's best inside mimic | 17:04 |
| rinigus | Mister_Magister: tried, but not in the car, though. hopefully, we can let you choose | 17:05 |
| Mister_Magister | rinigus: ah yes yes | 17:05 |
| Mister_Magister | slt is even better than google one tbh | 17:06 |
| rinigus | :) | 17:06 |
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| seppl_ | is it fully open source? | 17:34 |
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| rinigus | seppl_: which one? | 17:42 |
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| rinigus | seppl_: mimic is a mix of open source licenses, as far as I can see. picotts is a part of android and distributed under Apache License, Version 2.0 | 17:51 |
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| Mister_Magister | saidinesh5: ping | 18:14 |
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| Mister_Magister | oh okay hwcomposer is now segfaulting even on mininalhooks | 18:23 |
| Mister_Magister | i mean wrong channel | 18:23 |
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