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| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: so instead of forcing vendors to support newer versions of the linux kernel they're trying to promote the opposite by extending the LTS time | 08:29 |
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| nh1402 | whoops | 08:30 |
| Renault | nh1402: the issue come from fondry and not vendors | 08:31 |
| Renault | (in general) | 08:31 |
| nh1402 | Renault: Foundry's just manufacture the SoC's though, right? | 08:35 |
| Renault | no | 08:35 |
| Renault | they provide a kernel with patches and sometimes a complete BSP | 08:35 |
| Renault | each vendor use that material to customise their product around the SoC | 08:36 |
| Renault | but they don't have the knowledge (and ressources) to maintain / port SoC support | 08:36 |
| Renault | and fondries didn't make a good job for that (bad programers or policy, don't want to push into Linux mainline because it's more difficult and it's take time to do that, they don't have the time because several months later another SoC is available and they need to work on it) | 08:38 |
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| ^7heo | does anyone know if the frequencies in the north US are different as the ones in EU/DE? and if yes, to what extent? | 13:00 |
| coderus | ^7heo: everyone knows that | 13:01 |
| ^7heo | really? | 13:01 |
| ^7heo | because I do not. | 13:01 |
| fledermaus | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands | 13:02 |
| ^7heo | yeah I can read | 13:02 |
| ^7heo | I also found that. | 13:02 |
| ^7heo | it doesn't answer my question tho. | 13:02 |
| * fledermaus headtilts | 13:02 | |
| ^7heo | well, if you read the end; there's: to what extent. | 13:02 |
| ^7heo | i.e. I am interested in knowing about experiences of people and explicit possibilities or impossibilities. | 13:04 |
| ^7heo | I actually do not exactly know where to ask for that. | 13:04 |
| r0kk3rz | there isnt a simple answer to that question | 13:05 |
| r0kk3rz | it depends, generally they're completely different | 13:05 |
| ^7heo | yeah | 13:06 |
| fledermaus | I've used my jolla in the UK, Finland and the US. | 13:06 |
| ^7heo | my problem exactly. | 13:06 |
| ^7heo | I can't actually find synthetic exhaustive information about what works and what doesn't given the case. | 13:06 |
| r0kk3rz | ^7heo: its not that hard to figure out, look up your device on gsmarena, then match the numbers up with the wikipedia page | 13:08 |
| r0kk3rz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies_in_the_US | 13:10 |
| r0kk3rz | thats a better page | 13:10 |
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| ^7heo | r0kk3rz: I actually found the specs of the phone, so I know what to look for | 13:26 |
| ^7heo | I only need one more thing, the correspondance between frequencies and bands | 13:27 |
| LarstiQ | ^7heo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands | 13:29 |
| LarstiQ | first hit | 13:29 |
| ^7heo | you use google, right? | 13:29 |
| ^7heo | ah I got it too. but not "first hit", by a long shot ;) | 13:29 |
| LarstiQ | what was your query? | 13:30 |
| ^7heo | (I had to search for "phone bands frequencies correspondance") | 13:30 |
| ^7heo | originally searched for "frequency bands" | 13:30 |
| ^7heo | with no luck | 13:30 |
| ^7heo | then put frequencies in plural, still no luck | 13:30 |
| LarstiQ | "gsm" there would have helped | 13:30 |
| ^7heo | then added "phone" in front, didn't help. | 13:31 |
| ^7heo | yeah possibly, but GSM isn't for LTE or? | 13:31 |
| LarstiQ | that's like arguing the distinction between ssl and tls | 13:31 |
| ^7heo | Ahok. | 13:31 |
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| ^7heo | Anyway I figured out what the problem was... I set my serach engine to restrict my results to the regional ones; as my previous request was about locally relevant data. | 13:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | ^7heo: did you miss that link i just posted | 13:32 |
| r0kk3rz | it lists carriers and freqs they use | 13:32 |
| ^7heo | r0kk3rz: I even answered you. | 13:32 |
| ^7heo | r0kk3rz: I'm not in the US tho. | 13:32 |
| LarstiQ | then why bring up the US to start with? | 13:32 |
| r0kk3rz | ^7heo: so you want details for which country? | 13:33 |
| ^7heo | r0kk3rz: actually I wanted the details for a precise carrier. In Germany. and I found it: http://www.giga.de/software/telekommunikation/vodafone-netzabdeckung-verfuegbarkeiten-uebersicht/?PageSpeed=noscript | 13:33 |
| r0kk3rz | congrats | 13:33 |
| ^7heo | LarstiQ: the phone I'm thinking of buying is coming from NA | 13:33 |
| ^7heo | LarstiQ: and has a North American radio. | 13:33 |
| ^7heo | LarstiQ: hence all that noise. | 13:34 |
| r0kk3rz | you never actually said that though | 13:34 |
| LarstiQ | ^7heo: hmkay, imo you should just restrict that then to the actual phone | 13:34 |
| r0kk3rz | which is a much easier question to answer than 'what are differences between x and y' | 13:34 |
| ^7heo | r0kk3rz: right, not in this chan | 13:35 |
| ^7heo | r0kk3rz: I'm asking in multiple places at once, sorry for confusing where I said what. | 13:35 |
| ^7heo | LarstiQ: what do you mean? | 13:35 |
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| LarstiQ | ^7heo: the US is irrelevant, what matters is "does device X work in location Y" | 13:36 |
| ^7heo | LarstiQ: there isn't "device X" | 13:36 |
| ^7heo | LarstiQ: there is "device X with a North American radio" and "device X with a radio for the rest of the world" | 13:36 |
| ^7heo | See https://madeby.google.com/phone/specs/ | 13:36 |
| LarstiQ | ^7heo: does are devices X and X' | 13:36 |
| ^7heo | section "telephony" | 13:36 |
| LarstiQ | s/does/those/ | 13:36 |
| ^7heo | yeah but unfortunately as far as the radio is concerned, it's X and Y | 13:37 |
| LarstiQ | different symbols, same difference | 13:37 |
| ^7heo | well, concretely; it might be that X won't work for me while X' (AKA Y) will. | 13:37 |
| ^7heo | that's how different it is. | 13:37 |
| ^7heo | so now I have an exhaustive information about what GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are used by my carrier | 13:38 |
| ^7heo | and I only need to convert them to the respective bands. | 13:38 |
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| pykape | hi | 16:56 |
| pykape | how does one trigger an even when the cover becomes visible? | 16:56 |
| pykape | *an event | 16:56 |
| leszek | pykape: see https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/silica/qml-sailfishsilica-sailfish-silica-cover.html/ at the bottom status | 17:03 |
| pykape | leszek: cheers! | 17:06 |
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| edips | hi I have a question about PyOtherSide for Android | 18:57 |
| edips | I couldn't find any python for android on pyotherside for android. anybody have android built of Python for Pyotherside? | 18:58 |
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| edips | sailfishosers silent | 20:51 |
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| coderus | edips: read the docs??? https://pyotherside.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#building-for-android | 21:20 |
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| King_DuckZ | hi, anybody around? | 21:37 |
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| edips | corerus I built pyotherside for android(gpodder app) 2 years ago. now because there is not python for android repo I couldn't build it. today I opened an issue about this. | 21:44 |
| edips | coderus* | 21:44 |
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