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| r0kk3rz | TwisteR: just because a package is available doesnt mean it is released for use yet | 07:32 |
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| coderus | my 2.1.0.11 have jolla-camera-0.4.3-10.60.1.jolla.armv7hl | 07:39 |
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| coderus | so it should be installed if you updated to 2.1 | 07:40 |
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| Ingvix | How to return page to top after certain input is made? | 15:14 |
| Ingvix | in code | 15:15 |
| Ingvix | okay, found it | 15:22 |
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| DuckZ | did you guys see this? https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/04/samsungs-tizen-is-riddled-with-security-flaws-amateurishly-written/ | 15:39 |
| DuckZ | if I understand correctly, tizen too is a fork of meego, like SF, and if that's the case (or even if it's not), I wonder why these articles always fail to mention SF | 15:40 |
| Ingvix | Conspiracy | 15:44 |
| DuckZ | maybe yeah | 15:47 |
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| LarstiQ | there are more positive articles to be mentioned in than that one | 15:49 |
| LarstiQ | but maybe we can invite ars uk to visit us or something | 15:50 |
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| King_DuckZ | LarstiQ: yeah, I was wondering if there has ever been an article about SF on ars... I'm sure there was a mention of SF at some point, but not a whole article | 16:07 |
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| tadzik | DuckZ: I guess because its impact on the market is negligible | 18:09 |
| tadzik | it's not like you can even buy a phone with sailfish these days | 18:10 |
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| GreatEmerald | I wonder how realistic it is to try and get Sailfish to work on amd64 | 19:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | GreatEmerald: should be fine | 19:26 |
| r0kk3rz | ultimately its about the device and its drivers more than architecture | 19:27 |
| GreatEmerald | r0kk3rz: I'll be getting a new amd64 tablet soon, and was wondering what my options will be. The drivers will work fine, since I made sure of that (intel) | 19:29 |
| GreatEmerald | But then how do I get the other bits of the OS? | 19:29 |
| r0kk3rz | heh, dont be so sure of that | 19:29 |
| r0kk3rz | just because its intel doesnt mean squat | 19:29 |
| GreatEmerald | I read some forum posts from users too, so I know it works ;) | 19:29 |
| r0kk3rz | good | 19:30 |
| r0kk3rz | TheKit is the best person to talk to about running up an x86 build i think | 19:30 |
| r0kk3rz | and general people in #sailfishos-porters | 19:30 |
| GreatEmerald | I'd also be interested to document such a port attempt, since getting anything mobile-related on Linux seems to be kind of state of the art these days | 19:31 |
| r0kk3rz | if you can run up something like debian or ubuntu on it and have most of the bits work | 19:32 |
| r0kk3rz | sailfish should work ok | 19:32 |
| GreatEmerald | Yeap | 19:32 |
| GreatEmerald | The first thing I do usually is get Gentoo running | 19:33 |
| GreatEmerald | But then where are all the Sailfish bits? The GitHub repo only has the browser and office | 19:34 |
| r0kk3rz | GreatEmerald: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96708 this will probably be useful for you | 19:35 |
| r0kk3rz | GreatEmerald: read the HADK, the first stuff about building the kernel isnt so relevant for you but the rest about building a rootfs is | 19:35 |
| GreatEmerald | r0kk3rz: I read that thread, but it's seemingly about i586 and not amd64 | 19:37 |
| GreatEmerald | Or i686 rather | 19:37 |
| r0kk3rz | same thing | 19:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | i think userland will be 32bit anyway | 19:39 |
| GreatEmerald | Ugh. That's what I was afraid of | 19:40 |
| TheKit | any particular reason you want amd64? | 19:41 |
| r0kk3rz | because moar bits! | 19:41 |
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| GreatEmerald | Yea, it's not optimal to run 32-bit software on amd64 | 19:43 |
| GreatEmerald | 4 GiB memory limits and all that | 19:43 |
| GreatEmerald | Fewer registers | 19:44 |
| GreatEmerald | Less memory/disk size usage, sure, but that's not that important nowadays | 19:44 |
| GreatEmerald | x32 is a better option than i686 too | 19:44 |
| r0kk3rz | GreatEmerald: in this instance, its going to make zero difference. not that you have a choice | 19:45 |
| GreatEmerald | I guess. Though the only thing that doesn't have amd64 support is the UI, from what I can see... | 19:46 |
| Ingvix | I'm dreaming that one day I have the motivation and focus to start porting sfos for nexus 7 | 19:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | GreatEmerald: and all the apps :) | 19:52 |
| r0kk3rz | not that any of them are built for x86 anyway.... | 19:52 |
| GreatEmerald | The apps should build on amd64. Maybe there are no binaries by default, but amd64 is a valid OBS target | 19:54 |
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| GreatEmerald | Hm, there's no amd64 Mer SDK either. Hm. | 19:57 |
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| GreatEmerald | OK, the process looks straightforward enough, mic is basically where all the magic is | 20:33 |
| GreatEmerald | And it generates what is effectively a stage3 tarball | 20:34 |
| GreatEmerald | And I can probably even reuse Gentoo's kernel and GRUB for the rest | 20:35 |
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