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| DuckZ | guys the default browser makes kittens weep | 10:32 |
|---|---|---|
| DuckZ | you open a website, some other apps randomly die, then you refresh the page, which hasn't changed even a bit, some other apps die, then if you refresh enough times eventually the browser itself dies -_- | 10:34 |
| DuckZ | that's if it doesn't start flashing first, of course | 10:34 |
| DuckZ | some other times it stubbornly keeps on loading the last page you opened last time, no matter what bookmark you click or how many times you do that | 10:35 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: yeah, it has some issues | 10:38 |
| LarstiQ | haven't seen it kill other apps though, myself | 10:38 |
| r0kk3rz | DuckZ: flashing? you've seen it flap between tab graphics too? | 10:40 |
| r0kk3rz | s/graphics/renders | 10:40 |
| LarstiQ | r0kk3rz: I've seen that, and flashing with a white page | 10:41 |
| r0kk3rz | LarstiQ: its a wonderful bug :) | 10:41 |
| LarstiQ | started happening (more?) since my tab count increased, but not sure that is related | 10:41 |
| DuckZ | between tab renders? it flashes white, even if you minimize it (the minimized page keeps on flashing inside its rectangle) | 10:42 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: yes, between two rendered webpages | 10:42 |
| DuckZ | no, like yesterday I was on boost's documentation in tab 3, and I was seeing boost/blank/boost/blank... I didn't load the other 2 tabs at all, though they were open from last time I used the browser | 10:44 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: the flashing white is more common for me, but not the only variant | 10:45 |
| DuckZ | btw I usually have Battery Log and Situations open, and sometimes Line (android), and opening my stream on diaspora and refreshing the page a few times or doing a search or navigating a bit is enough to get the other apps closed | 10:46 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: how many tabs in browser? | 10:46 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: this happen with diaspora only? | 10:46 |
| DuckZ | 3, though I don't usually load the page in 1 and 2, I just keep them open because I'll eventually look at those... | 10:47 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: don't suppose that diaspora page would work for someone else? | 10:48 |
| LarstiQ | i.e., how particular is the behaviour to your data | 10:48 |
| DuckZ | LarstiQ: not really, like if I open some website crammed full with ads it obviously happen, but sometimes just browsing the results on ddg and going through some "lightweight" websites is enough | 10:48 |
| LarstiQ | which apps get closed? anroid/native? | 10:49 |
| LarstiQ | is it the oom killer? | 10:49 |
| DuckZ | LarstiQ: the stream changes all the time... I have what now... a long post with text only, some links with thumbnail from the Linux user, one post with a picture, a long one from Mr. Mondialisation with few pictures and a video... not much imo, pictures should be downscaled by diaspora anyways | 10:52 |
| DuckZ | LarstiQ: it probably is, they all get killed, Line before the others maybe, but all get closed | 10:52 |
| DuckZ | the browser is eating up too much memory I think, even if the page is relatively simple | 10:53 |
| DuckZ | or something is severely leaking... my uptime is 5d 15h | 10:53 |
| r0kk3rz | just because a page looks lightweight doesnt mean that it is | 10:55 |
| DuckZ | ok so just now I had my diaspora stream open and battery log, situations, line and the mail client running | 10:57 |
| DuckZ | refreshing the page in the browser had the mail client killed | 10:57 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: anything interesting in the logs? | 11:00 |
| DuckZ | LarstiQ: where do I find them? | 11:01 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: journalctl | 11:04 |
| DuckZ | journalctl -xe --> no journal files were found | 11:05 |
| DuckZ | same without -xe | 11:05 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: devel-su? | 11:05 |
| LarstiQ | don't actually know if dmesg is viewable from there too | 11:06 |
| DuckZ | what's the password? | 11:06 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: the password you set in developers tools (remote connection) | 11:07 |
| LarstiQ | if you didn't set it otherwise | 11:07 |
| LarstiQ | does look like dmesg is there | 11:08 |
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| DuckZ | I just changed it but it still says auth failed :/ | 11:09 |
| DuckZ | I don't see anything suspicious in dmesg | 11:09 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: try the auth again? | 11:09 |
| * LarstiQ had to wait a bit longer | 11:09 | |
| DuckZ | some wlan stuff, though wlan is disabled right now | 11:09 |
| * DuckZ retries | 11:10 | |
| DuckZ | I see some messages in red, still about wlan which is disabled, but nothing else that looks alarming to me | 11:15 |
| DuckZ | but I have to get back to work now | 11:15 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: ok | 11:16 |
| LarstiQ | DuckZ: if you find a way to reproduce it, let me know | 11:16 |
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| ranter | fLegmatic: I did check riot... Are you aware of this? What kinds of information do we collect? We may collect and process a mix of information, including both personally identifiable and non-identifying data. Personally identifiable data includes information by which you may be personally identified, such as name, postal address, e-mail address, telephone number, any other identifier by which you may be contacted online or offline (such | 12:22 |
| ranter | as a Matrix ID), any credentials to external systems that youre requesting Riot to bridge you to or any other information the Website collects that is defined as personal or personally identifiable information under an applicable law. In order to provide the Services we may also collect, process and store your communications via the Service and the content, attachments and metadata associated with such communications. https://riot | 12:22 |
| ranter | .im/privacy | 12:22 |
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| ranter | That is snapped from https://riot.im/privacy | 12:23 |
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| DuckZ | those comments to the youtube app in the store, they just look like the "plz email me teh codes" story | 13:50 |
| DuckZ | it's funny and pathetic at the same time how people can't be bothered with even just reading the previous comment before posting | 13:51 |
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| ^7heo | DuckZ: the store only displays 2 previous comments... | 13:57 |
| DuckZ | ^7heo: people don't read not even 1 previous comment, let alone twice that much | 14:08 |
| DuckZ | eliza chat bot inherently makes more sense than commenters of the youtube app | 14:09 |
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| ^7heo | DuckZ: I do :P | 14:16 |
| DuckZ | ^7heo: then you must be one of the few cerebrates who doesn't post their personal phone number or email address or just asdfasdf in there o.O | 14:23 |
| ^7heo | yeah I actually try to give constructive feedback | 14:24 |
| ^7heo | and if not, it's still gonna be and articulated rant. | 14:24 |
| DuckZ | I think that's what usually happens in comments, except for that one app, for some reason | 14:25 |
| ^7heo | Probably because people needing a dedicated application for youtube aren't the most educated and litterate people? | 14:26 |
| ^7heo | I know that the browser sucks a lot, but it still works for a one-tab youtube page ;) | 14:26 |
| DuckZ | that's an explanation, even if classifying *after* eliza in the turing test is like below golem-level IQ | 14:28 |
| ^7heo | Golems are actually quite intelligent. | 14:29 |
| ^7heo | They're supposed to understand judaism, and it's not a joke religion, if I may. | 14:30 |
| * ^7heo hides | 14:30 | |
| DuckZ | hmm they can also count up to 3, iirc | 14:30 |
| ^7heo | exactly. | 14:30 |
| DuckZ | this one is amazing, let me quote it: | 14:31 |
| DuckZ | a-hem! | 14:31 |
| DuckZ | "Zuhrul!" | 14:31 |
| DuckZ | which seems to be the name of the person who wrote it | 14:32 |
| DuckZ | he must be a bit like Hodor, from game of thrones, this zurul guy | 14:32 |
| DuckZ | then we have guk, mst app, bs, yes, t | 14:35 |
| DuckZ | -_- | 14:35 |
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| rifraf | hello | 15:47 |
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| rifraf | I need speak Polish please | 15:48 |
| rifraf | anyone? | 15:48 |
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| rifraf | I need help, please | 16:07 |
| coderus | rifraf: what you mean? | 16:08 |
| rifraf | I can not find out list with devices on which I can instal sailfish | 16:09 |
| rifraf | I would like to instal on lumia 532 is this possible? | 16:09 |
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| leszek | rifraf: no thats not possible | 16:12 |
| rifraf | where I can find list with devices supporting sailfish, I can buy some cheap mobile | 16:14 |
| rifraf | only for divaces with android ? | 16:17 |
| mal | this is partial list https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 16:17 |
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| coderus | most recent ports are here also: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris_reboot | 16:27 |
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| DuckZ | woooo slow down | 16:36 |
| DuckZ | that means that I can expect a fully functional sailfish on one plus x and fairphone2 ??? | 16:36 |
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| rifraf | what shall I do first if I want di instal sailfish on my mobile? | 17:16 |
| rifraf | where I can find some tutorial? | 17:16 |
| leszek | rifraf: here is the wiki with supported devices. If you click on the device you will get to another wiki page telling you what to do to install and where to find the images: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 17:17 |
| leszek | rifraf: though keep in mind most of them might still link to CyanogenMod. And as Cyanogen is no more the links might not work | 17:18 |
| comradekingu | should be possible to port to lineageos, which still carries a lot of branding from cyanogen, with the recent switch | 17:23 |
| leszek | comradekingu: most of the wiki entries are old and never updated | 17:24 |
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| comradekingu | getting a jollaphone tomorrow | 17:28 |
| comradekingu | Might break out a xperia device from retirement to see if it works too | 17:28 |
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| leszek | comradekingu: jolla c ? | 17:42 |
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| leszek | as for xperia devices. Only feasible is the Xperia X atm. Thats the first and I guess only device supported this year | 17:43 |
| leszek | supported by Jolla I mean | 17:43 |
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| comradekingu | leszek: no the old one, c was sold out when i looked | 17:44 |
| comradekingu | leszek: i only have the laughable actice | 17:44 |
| comradekingu | active* | 17:44 |
| leszek | hmm... ok might be a good start for a developing device. Though if it isn't a new device take care to don't buy a broken or half broken one | 17:45 |
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| comradekingu | leszek: Is there anything out of the ordinary that would break. I know the guy, and I asked for it, so it isnt a set-up. | 17:51 |
| leszek | comradekingu: almost all of the first jolla phones (that are 4 years old) have a yellow tint on the screen | 17:52 |
| leszek | might be overheating or a bad quality display | 17:52 |
| leszek | battery on some production lines seem to slip out of the contacts which lead to reboots and such | 17:53 |
| comradekingu | Can i physically check for the battery issue? | 17:53 |
| leszek | not really I guess | 17:53 |
| comradekingu | Or somehow pad/solder it back into function if it does happen | 17:53 |
| comradekingu | A tint i am not worried about, unless it turns everything into the simpsons | 17:54 |
| leszek | there is a workaround for the battery though. Just use a thin paper between battery and back cover to hold it in place. Of course if you buy with many different TOHs it won't make much sense though | 17:54 |
| comradekingu | Only plan on using the TOHKBD | 17:55 |
| leszek | comradekingu: its not the simpsons and on my Jolla Phone I only notice it on white backgrounds on websites | 17:55 |
| leszek | comradekingu: if that still works. TOHKBD quality is not the best | 17:55 |
| comradekingu | I will knock a few off the price. 40€ worth for a good one i thought was decent both ways | 17:55 |
| leszek | my might still work but I cannot use it as a daily driver as it is to unreliable | 17:55 |
| leszek | disconnects very often and some keys don't react all the time | 17:56 |
| comradekingu | Yeah. Ive been using replicant since the htc magic days, so my daily driver routine isnt always point a to point b with no hassle in between | 17:56 |
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| comradekingu | hmmm, still beats clicking a screen though | 17:56 |
| comradekingu | Mine is almost brand new, since my dad got my jolla, and didnt fancy using it | 17:58 |
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| Mister_Magister | is there app for viber and google+? | 19:11 |
| r0kk3rz | Mister_Magister: theres only like two places to look | 19:12 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: yeah right but it can be under strange name | 19:13 |
| r0kk3rz | still, in the description it would say 'client for blah' | 19:14 |
| r0kk3rz | which would turn up in search results | 19:15 |
| r0kk3rz | my hunch is probably not for either of those | 19:15 |
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