Thursday, 2017-03-02

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XiaomiRedmi2hello07:28
XiaomiRedmi2any devs here?07:28
XiaomiRedmi2i need help with multiROM for my sailfish port07:29
coderusXiaomiRedmi2: #salifishos-porters is your channel07:33
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muppisAny documentation yet which Xperia devices are going to be supported, all or just X?09:07
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coderusdocumentation?09:08
muppisOr any other press release than one on Jolla's site?09:09
muppisI'd like to anticipate, because my original Jolla is in death row. :/09:11
Ford_PrefectLucky you. Mine's pretty much doa, mic doesn't work when making/receiving calls.09:12
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muppisFord_Prefect, that's bad. In mine just battery fails (still the original one) and screen has some strange color error on left side.09:14
coderusmuppis: this? https://jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Sony_Jolla_press_release_MWC2017_FINAL.pdf09:14
muppisStill in daily use though.09:15
r0kk3rzmuppis: patience, all will be revealed in time09:15
muppiscoderus, that's the only what I've founded. Doesn't really speak anything else than X.09:16
coderusyou should wait then for more info09:16
malthey said the first one would be X, no info when other devices would come09:17
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coderusin theory all xperia open devices can be hacked09:22
muppisThere's kinda lot of them.09:24
r0kk3rzyeah there is, not all of them are readily available though09:28
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muppisLooks like I just need to wait.09:34
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r0kk3rzthe x compact looks like quite a popular option too, i expect that might be next09:40
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muppisI just looked X Performance. Otherwise the same than X, but better CPU.09:42
nh1402muppis: What I really dislike about the X Performance is that for a H1 2016 flagship it has a really really really really small battery.09:44
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whytrytoflyhi09:44
muppisnh1402, it's bigger than in X, but yeah. Still small.09:45
whytrytoflywill there be no more jolla phones?09:48
whytrytofly---> how do i use sailfishos09:48
whytrytoflyon originally android intentended devices?09:48
leszekwhytrytofly: jolla stopped producing hardware last year09:48
leszekwhytrytofly: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris09:49
whytrytoflyso the answer is yes? i need other phones?09:50
muppiswhytrytofly, we just discussed about upcoming support for Sony Xperia devices.09:51
whytrytoflyokay09:52
whytrytoflyand is there any devices that seems to be optimal for sailfish09:52
leszekIntex AquaFish, JollaC, the upcoming Xperia X, Inoi and Accione09:53
whytrytoflyJollaC? but cannot be bought anymore?09:53
leszekwhytrytofly: when you mean ported devices supported by community. The Nexus5 and Fairphone2 ports are quite good09:53
leszekwhytrytofly: occasionally someone is selling Jolla C on ebay though the price is really double or tripple the price09:54
whytrytoflyand why has support been stopped?09:54
whytrytoflyit was running so well09:54
leszekwhytrytofly: no support is stopped09:54
whytrytoflythe production09:55
whytrytoflyof jollaC09:55
r0kk3rzbecause it was only ever a short run thing09:55
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leszekit wasn't stopped it was just a limited bunch of them actually bought from jolla for the community09:55
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whytrytoflyi c09:55
r0kk3rzsold out within a total time of about 45min...09:55
whytrytoflybut things could be cahnged =)09:55
r0kk3rzwhytrytofly: read the Press Releases from Jolla at MWC17 this week09:56
whytrytoflyokay09:56
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leszekwhytrytofly: if you want a good device with sailfishos. wait until end of june and you will be able to buy a Sony Xperia X with SailfishOS (hopefully a little bit more on stock then just a few thousand)09:58
whytrytoflywhich price category can i expect09:58
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leszekwhytrytofly: take a look at the prices for the Xperia X nowadays. I don't expect it to change much till end of June. So I guess around 300-400€09:59
r0kk3rzleszek: im not convinced jolla will be selling them as such. but we will see10:00
leszekr0kk3rz: I thought they confirmed that on MWC10:00
r0kk3rznot that ive seen10:01
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leszek"will be available as Community Device ..." is what I recall.10:01
r0kk3rzsure, which is a fairly vague statement10:02
leszekCommunity Devices were sold by Jolla10:02
leszekI don't see a reason why they should not sell them with SFOS preinstalled10:02
r0kk3rzFP2 was also loosely considered a 'community device' remember10:03
leszekr0kk3rz: no. FP2 was never part of the Community Device program10:04
leszekthe Xperia X will be10:04
r0kk3rzi hope you're right, but im not convinced, especially since theres been reports of something else entirely10:05
leszekwhat reports =?10:05
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tbrI suggest reading the actual PR release and putting the marketing-autocorrect to maximum10:09
leszektbr: I read it. Did they change it maybe ?10:09
r0kk3rzleszek: Jolla FR guy, who was at MWC, says its an image download and then *maybe* a preinstalled device will be released https://jollafr.org/presentation-video-du-sony-xperia-x-sous-sailfish-os/10:11
leszekthx10:12
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r0kk3rzbut of course they have to finish developing the port first10:14
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muppisI ended up to order Xperia X Performance. Wish me luck. :)12:26
dlavsomuppis, used/new? how much you paid?12:44
dlavsoyou are brave :)12:44
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muppisdlavso, new. ~400€ in Finland.12:45
r0kk3rzmuppis: you can help port sailfish to it :)12:46
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muppisI'll help. I'm not good at coding, but surely I can test things.12:47
r0kk3rzyou dont need to code12:47
r0kk3rzbut hows your linux shell skills?12:48
muppisMy main OS is Linux. :D12:48
r0kk3rzthen you'll be fine12:48
muppisGood.12:48
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r0kk3rzmuppis: you can start by building AOSP6 image https://developer.sonymobile.com/open-devices/aosp-build-instructions/how-to-build-aosp-marshmallow-for-unlocked-xperia-devices/12:51
muppisBecause of Linux, I've bought Jolla in first place. Also had two Nokia N900 as well. :D12:52
muppisr0kk3rz, I'll try that next week.12:52
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Ramy_anyone here13:16
Ramy_i need help with my port13:16
r0kk3rzRamy_: #sailfishos-porters13:17
Ramy_thanks :D13:17
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whytrytoflyhi13:55
whytrytoflycan someone send me that link to check whether sailfish is usable on my hardware13:55
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leszekwhytrytofly: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris13:58
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whytrytoflyso fairphone 1 is not working?14:08
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r0kk3rznope14:10
leszekwhytrytofly: everything mediatek won't work14:11
nh1402leszek: won't or can't yet, or will have limited usability?14:12
whytrytoflyleszek, everything mediatek wont work - what deos that mean? everything BUT the mediathek?14:12
leszeknh1402: is not and will not14:14
r0kk3rzleszek: not true, MTK is recently supported14:14
leszekwhytrytofly: every smartphone with a mediatek processor basically14:14
leszekr0kk3rz: really ?14:14
leszekhmm... ok news to me14:14
whytrytoflyhm okay14:14
leszekusually mediatek is violating the gpl and no one likes to play with them except some chinese manufactorer14:15
leszekok granted sony did play with them too for their xa line14:15
whytrytoflyfairphone 2 is so much more expensive =)14:16
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nh1402r0kk3rz: that's what I thought, there was a patch a while back on AOSP 6 I think, which was supposed to help non-Qualcomm stuff14:16
malmediatek can work ok if you can get the sources from somewhere, which is not always easy14:25
nh1402the only issue is the modem stuff, right?14:30
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nh1402"only" is probably the wrong word there14:32
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malnh1402: well that might be an issue but I believe there is some code already for that14:36
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jaykiHi :) Does anyone also get CameraBin error: "The stream is in the wrong format." on using Jolla-camera on the latest opt in Update ? I think it's something happening with gstreamer here, but reinstalled most of gstreamer1.0 already and it didn't solved it :/16:14
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jaykiOk did found it here : https://together.jolla.com/question/156876/camera-stream-not-refreshing-while-in-app-2109/ but no solution :(16:16
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abransonjayki: you could try removing the gstreamer registry. its in /home/nemo/.cache/gstreamer-1.0/16:30
jaykiok i'll try thanks16:32
jaykinope didn't fixed it :( thanks anyway16:35
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