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| leszek | Is it really a smartwatch which will become the next community device ? I really hope no. As a experiment its interesting but the smartphone lacks so much still that it would be no real benefit to conecentrate on a smartwatch now | 14:44 |
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| Mister_Magister | leszek: agreed. we need more smartphones | 14:45 |
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| leszek | Mister_Magister: especially some higher quality ones. The Jolla C was ok when I got it but the hardware bugs it has (ticking sound, humming sound in earpeace during calls) and the battery after half a year only having half its capacity are real pains in the ass | 14:46 |
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| Mister_Magister | leszek: i have only first jolla and it is good but when people are looking on jolla c/intex aquafish they see overpriced phone with low end specs so that's no good even if with that specs phone will run smoth | 14:48 |
| leszek | yeah quality wise the first Jolla device is much better. And having it more than 3 years now it holds together way better than the Jolla C | 14:49 |
| Mister_Magister | leszek: i'm using sailfish ports so i don't care but jolla NEED more devices | 14:50 |
| leszek | yeah they need a hardware partner that is able and willing to produce more than just one device in one country | 14:51 |
| Mister_Magister | that would be great if intex made another one. Also waiting for turing :3 | 14:51 |
| saidinesh5 | aquafish is overpriced? :P | 14:51 |
| Mister_Magister | a bit :D | 14:51 |
| saidinesh5 | its like 80EUR .. cheaper than most androids no? | 14:51 |
| leszek | saidinesh5: aquafish is not overpriced in my opinion | 14:51 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah.. it is cheaper than Redmi 2 here, and Redmi2 was supposed to be an elcheapo device | 14:52 |
| Mister_Magister | maybe i'm worng | 14:52 |
| leszek | but even for 80 EUR basic things like camera and phoning should work after 6 month without ticking sounds, humming and such | 14:52 |
| saidinesh5 | thanks for the warning :P | 14:52 |
| saidinesh5 | i was wondering what to do if my 2.5 year old Mi3 does... was considering Aquafish but maybe i will sit down and port it to another device | 14:53 |
| saidinesh5 | *dies | 14:53 |
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| Mister_Magister | saidinesh5: more ports :D But to find good device for port these days is not easy | 14:55 |
| saidinesh5 | Mister_Magister: cancro runs reasonably well with Sailfish OS | 14:55 |
| saidinesh5 | Mi3 maybe a little aged, but Mi4 is still a top notch device imho | 14:56 |
| leszek | Mister_Magister: basically all the Ubuntu Touch devices come to my mind. As Canonical abandoned those basically many users are so frustrated that they would try flashing SailfishOS on it | 14:56 |
| saidinesh5 | whut? Canonical abandoned Ubuntu touch? | 14:56 |
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| Mister_Magister | saidinesh5: i mean to find device with source and etc that you will be able to port it | 14:57 |
| leszek | They said they will not continue development of Ubuntu Touch (vivid + click packages based) this year. As all devices have this running they are basically abandoning those | 14:57 |
| Mister_Magister | mi3/4 got port last time isn't it? | 14:57 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh... yeah.. it is always work.. but as long as you have the kenel/device sources, you should be good to go | 14:57 |
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| saidinesh5 | Mister_Magister: yeah i ported it :D | 14:58 |
| saidinesh5 | leszek: so what's the future of Ubuntu touch? | 14:59 |
| saidinesh5 | wait vivid sounds old though.. | 14:59 |
| * saidinesh5 googles for the current version of ubuntu | 14:59 | |
| Mister_Magister | saidinesh5: oh what a coincidence | 14:59 |
| leszek | saidinesh5: honestly I don't see any. Canonical wants all working power to flow into Unity 8 and Snaps this year. They plan for next year to have Ubuntu Touch on top of xenial base with snaps I guess. But with the abandoning of existing user base I see no real future for them | 15:00 |
| Mister_Magister | saidinesh5: lg... you have source.... | 15:00 |
| saidinesh5 | leszek: afaik most porting effort for Ubuntu touch is not even supported by / is affiliated with canonical at all.. ubports was a separate thing | 15:01 |
| saidinesh5 | Mister_Magister: yeah xiaomi , oneplus, huawei release sources too.. Motorola used to. not sure about now. Sony does too | 15:01 |
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| Mister_Magister | saidinesh5: some devices are harder than others :D On sony you have very bad camera because of drm keys | 15:02 |
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| saidinesh5 | True.. but hey, its always a learning experience | 15:02 |
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| Mister_Magister | also i'm making port for moto g2 right now and i'll buy moto x force and make port for it also (it was time when motorola was motorola). Motorola was easy to port | 15:02 |
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| Mister_Magister | i'll never buy xperia because of camera. also i'll never buy lg or samsung. | 15:04 |
| mal | Mister_Magister: just curious, what is wrong with xperia cameras? I haven't been looking at new devices that much | 15:06 |
| saidinesh5 | mal: basically their fossy sources dont include proprietary bits for their cameras | 15:07 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: drm keys? when you install cyanogenmod the quality gets pretty low | 15:07 |
| Mister_Magister | also problems with droidmedia on z2 :V | 15:07 |
| saidinesh5 | https://github.com/CancroSailors/droid-config-cancro/blob/2052e20cd17df4961f747cfb6c83b246e01df742/sparse/usr/lib/qt5/plugins/feedback/qtfeedback-cancro.ini | 15:08 |
| saidinesh5 | wrong link | 15:08 |
| saidinesh5 | http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/10/02/sony-confirms-xperia-z3-camera-functionality-affected-by-unlocking-bootloader/ | 15:08 |
| Mister_Magister | that's why motorola was awesome, easy to port, no locks, no drm keys | 15:09 |
| saidinesh5 | xiaomi's bootloader unlocking is a pain though. you have to apply for unlock keys and they take like 3-7 days to approve your request and send you the key | 15:10 |
| saidinesh5 | thankfully my device didnt need that | 15:10 |
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| mal | quite odd that camera behavior | 15:10 |
| Mister_Magister | p8 lite have problem with cyanogenmod | 15:10 |
| saidinesh5 | mal: btw. when starting /init for sfdroid do i need to pass it any arguments? | 15:12 |
| mal | saidinesh5: ? | 15:12 |
| saidinesh5 | trying to run sfdroid in chroot now | 15:12 |
| mal | saidinesh5: no idea | 15:13 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm.. | 15:13 |
| Mister_Magister | i'm going to drown in logs :D | 15:16 |
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| mhall119 | saidinesh5: the long-term plan for Ubuntu Touch is to unify it into a single "Ubuntu Personal" codebase that supports desktops, tablets and phones | 16:21 |
| mhall119 | which means switching from Click packages and system-image to Snaps, but snaps require a newer kernel than Vivid, and Vivid wasn't even an LTS, so we're not putting more effort into extending that | 16:22 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh . mhall119 so even system images are provided by snaps after this? | 16:23 |
| mhall119 | yes, snaps are like the merging of system-image and click | 16:23 |
| saidinesh5 | I see | 16:24 |
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