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| saidinesh5 | it seems google plus completely breaks the QML Webview | 14:47 |
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| saidinesh5 | it isnt loading any resources at all! | 14:48 |
| leszek | saidinesh5: google blacklisted alternative operating systems for google plus | 14:48 |
| saidinesh5 | Oh ouch | 14:49 |
| leszek | they changed their detection of browsers in such a way that all non android and ios webkit based browsers are on a blacklist of unsupported browsers | 14:49 |
| saidinesh5 | i see.. i was using an android 4.4 user agent.. | 14:49 |
| saidinesh5 | prolly that's why it is so broken | 14:49 |
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| leszek | they did not only break sailfishos in that regard but also all tizen devices (they also use webkit) and all blackberry 10 devices aswell | 14:50 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm... | 14:51 |
| saidinesh5 | The QML webview really seems choppy | 14:51 |
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| r0kk3rz | another reason not to use google plus | 14:52 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe its a step along the way to killing it outright | 14:52 |
| saidinesh5 | if there was anybody i knew at all using diaspora, i'd happily reactivate it | 14:52 |
| * larstiq actually likes it | 14:52 | |
| saidinesh5 | hmm.. 2/3 links in my app's about page break in my QML webview.. | 14:53 |
| tadzik | google plus is still a thing? | 14:53 |
| tadzik | diaspora keeps on delivering disappointment, with API still not being there after... 5 years? | 14:53 |
| leszek | r0kk3rz: yeah I was told by someone which contacted a google guy that they have an internal bug report for that. Though I doubt that this will get fixed as it is targeting specifically all non android and ios platforms. Its not like a wrong number in the detection of the webkit version or so | 14:53 |
| leszek | saidinesh5: I am on diaspora | 14:54 |
| r0kk3rz | diaspora will never go anywhere either | 14:54 |
| leszek | tadzik: yeah but the development was basically stuck for 2 years or so. They started with regular updates again last year. So I have my hopes up again for it maybe one day delivering | 14:55 |
| leszek | at least diaspora works fine on all my mobile devices :) | 14:55 |
| saidinesh5 | leszek: btw. webcat is your project? | 14:55 |
| leszek | yes | 14:55 |
| tadzik | I'd be very interested in it if it become an multiplexer and demultiplexer for all other social networks | 14:56 |
| saidinesh5 | heh i was just looking at what more hacks you had to put in to make it work deecntly | 14:56 |
| saidinesh5 | yesterday i got the device pixel ratio hack.. and the make default from webcat itself | 14:56 |
| saidinesh5 | now looking at how to handle downloadable urls | 14:57 |
| leszek | yeah the code is a little bit of a mess. It basically started as a simple webview and then people demanded more features and I added them part by part. | 14:58 |
| saidinesh5 | mhm but you got a lot of useful bits in there | 14:58 |
| leszek | as for qtwebkit itself. It is sluggish as it is using fully the cpu. No gpu acceleration available as there is basically none for wayland atm | 14:58 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahhh | 14:59 |
| saidinesh5 | lets hope the webengine wont have the same problem | 14:59 |
| leszek | and as the rendering thread runs in a seperate process it is even more sluggish than something like webkit1 | 14:59 |
| leszek | webengine is a mess on its own. Missing dozens of features still | 14:59 |
| saidinesh5 | yep. scrolling is like worse than IE6 | 15:00 |
| leszek | basically you can't do anything with the qml part currently | 15:00 |
| saidinesh5 | Oh? | 15:00 |
| r0kk3rz | gecko to the rescue! | 15:00 |
| saidinesh5 | servo... | 15:00 |
| leszek | the only people using it atm are people who reimplement almost everything by hand on the c++ side (like konqueror or qupzilla browsers) | 15:00 |
| r0kk3rz | servo is still a long way off | 15:00 |
| saidinesh5 | I see | 15:01 |
| leszek | r0kk3rz: gecko would be fine if it would not eat up soo much memory. See the sailfish-browser and the tab situation it almost makes you think you are back 10 years | 15:01 |
| saidinesh5 | right now from what i read, gecko uses the same profile systemwide too. | 15:01 |
| leszek | exactly. Though since the last version they are working on it | 15:02 |
| leszek | I think the email app now or in pretty much near future will use gecko for html mails | 15:02 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh I hope we get a decent qml component out of it | 15:02 |
| leszek | I hope so too. I also hope they get the memory eating fixed | 15:02 |
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| leszek | the only other possible solution would be something like oxide / blink / chromium based browser | 15:03 |
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| leszek | ubuntu touch is using oxide and that works pretty good | 15:03 |
| r0kk3rz | you can pick up quicksilver | 15:03 |
| saidinesh5 | interesting... | 15:03 |
| leszek | there was a silver something port for sailfishos though no one seemed to work on it for more than a year | 15:03 |
| r0kk3rz | https://github.com/tworaz/quicksilver | 15:03 |
| r0kk3rz | needs updating | 15:03 |
| leszek | r0kk3rz: yeah exactly quicksilver. Though outdated | 15:03 |
| saidinesh5 | quicksilver is for qml? | 15:05 |
| r0kk3rz | saidinesh5: no idea, but it was built with sailfish in mind | 15:06 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 15:07 |
| r0kk3rz | hmm, the next branch isnt quite as outdated | 15:07 |
| r0kk3rz | 1yr old | 15:07 |
| saidinesh5 | the QMLWebview api ..most of it is not even documented properly .. as it is "experimental" | 15:08 |
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| leszek | quicksilver is for qml yes. It had a demo qml based browser also | 15:19 |
| leszek | saidinesh5: here a demo from a year ago | 15:19 |
| leszek | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjO5huCEfsQ&ab_channel=tworaz666 | 15:19 |
| saidinesh5 | wow. looks smooth too! | 15:20 |
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| leszek | yeah it looks very promising | 15:22 |
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