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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 08:49 |
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| tortoisedoc | has anyone an idea what this error means /CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE: cannot locate symbol "_ZN7android5mArgVE" referenced by "/opt/alien/system/bin/app_process". | 08:50 |
| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: fyi i put in a topic about the archnitecture changes for mondays mer meeting | 08:50 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : thanks, I think that's great idea | 08:50 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : do you know anything about the alien dalvik tools by chance? | 08:51 |
| r0kk3rz | not really | 08:51 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz about monday, I should be able to make it | 08:51 |
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| tortoisedoc | ehlo | 10:48 |
| tortoisedoc | someone alive here? :P | 10:48 |
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| kimmoli | no | 11:05 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : any suggestion ? has anyone an idea what this error means /CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE: cannot locate symbol "_ZN7android5mArgVE" referenced by "/opt/alien/system/bin/app_process". | 11:07 |
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| kimmoli | nope | 11:19 |
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| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: at a guess, id say you're missing a symbol :P | 12:00 |
| tortoisedoc | lolz | 12:00 |
| tortoisedoc | this used to work in sf1.0 iirc | 12:01 |
| r0kk3rz | what are you trying to build? | 12:04 |
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| vikas | Hi, I am trying to develop a QT app which should invoke itself at a specific time. Can someone suggest me what approach should I take? | 14:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | vikas: timed is your friend | 14:44 |
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| inch | Hello. I was thinking of trying to write an app that would let user to choose a picture, upload it to owncloud, get a share link for that picture from owncloud and set the link to clipboard. (For pasting the link to irc of course) | 17:38 |
| inch | Is there any way to do this: http://forum.jollausers.com/sailfish-developers/android-equivalent-api/ | 17:39 |
| inch | Or can an application somehow add itself to the list of actions for a picture in the gallery? I mean next to bluetooth, email, mms, etc. | 17:40 |
| coderus | inch: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/transfer-engine | 17:40 |
| inch | thanks | 17:41 |
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| tortoisedoc | wow | 17:58 |
| tortoisedoc | ssh sessions in devel mode actually | 17:58 |
| tortoisedoc | *work* | 17:58 |
| tortoisedoc | now :) | 17:58 |
| tortoisedoc | i get correct resuming when unsuspending my laptop \O/ | 17:58 |
| tortoisedoc | kudos Jare! | 17:59 |
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| tortoisedoc | attah! | 18:03 |
| tortoisedoc | just you | 18:03 |
| attah | me? | 18:03 |
| tortoisedoc | yes | 18:03 |
| tortoisedoc | i have a problem | 18:03 |
| tortoisedoc | with alien dalvik | 18:03 |
| attah | mkay? i'm listening | 18:03 |
| tortoisedoc | 4cannot locate symbol "_ZN7android5mArgVE" referenced by "/opt/alien/system/bin/app_process"... | 18:04 |
| tortoisedoc | wtf is this? | 18:04 |
| tortoisedoc | this used to work on sfos 1.0 iiirc | 18:04 |
| tortoisedoc | im basically sending an intent | 18:04 |
| attah | looks like dynamically linked binary having lost some lib | 18:04 |
| tortoisedoc | yeah | 18:04 |
| attah | what are you trying to do? | 18:04 |
| tortoisedoc | libbinder.so it seems (according to strace thats the last loaded one) | 18:04 |
| attah | sry, missed that | 18:04 |
| tortoisedoc | no pro :) | 18:05 |
| tortoisedoc | i tried to scrub through libbinder but couldnt find the symbol | 18:05 |
| tortoisedoc | so im lost here :| | 18:05 |
| attah | has it worked since they moved alien dalvik to a chroot? | 18:05 |
| tortoisedoc | ah | 18:05 |
| tortoisedoc | i wasnt aware of that :P | 18:05 |
| attah | i'm thinking it uses the "native" lib or the other way around | 18:06 |
| tortoisedoc | i guess thats the issue then | 18:06 |
| attah | coderus made an app that makes this less of a headache afaik | 18:06 |
| coderus | use Aliendalvik Control dbus to send intents | 18:06 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus thats where i got this code from | 18:07 |
| kimmoli | inch: this does similar, but with scp https://github.com/kimmoli/scp-shareui | 18:07 |
| tortoisedoc | (i basically just run a .sh test script with the same command) | 18:07 |
| tortoisedoc | could it be a permission issue? | 18:07 |
| attah | tortoisedoc: same command as? and do you run it chrooted? | 18:07 |
| tortoisedoc | attah : no, not chrooted | 18:08 |
| attah | try your intent in coderus's app | 18:08 |
| tortoisedoc | i assume the dbus service is running chrooted | 18:08 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 18:08 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: yes | 18:08 |
| tortoisedoc | ok | 18:08 |
| attah | yes | 18:08 |
| tortoisedoc | that explains :) | 18:08 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/aliendalvik-control/blob/master/daemon/src/main.cpp#L48 | 18:09 |
| attah | // Hacka hacking hacky-hacky hacked hacku hacka hack. :D | 18:09 |
| attah | Missing Hakkapelitta | 18:09 |
| tortoisedoc | lol | 18:10 |
| tortoisedoc | how did i manage to miss that line | 18:10 |
| tortoisedoc | ok thanks this helps alot :) | 18:10 |
| tortoisedoc | i wonder if i can chroot in .sh? :D | 18:11 |
| tortoisedoc | w00t i can | 18:11 |
| tortoisedoc | awesome | 18:11 |
| coderus | sure you can | 18:11 |
| attah | yeah, wouldn't be a whole lot of use otherwise | 18:12 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: make sure you grab correct environment | 18:13 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : huh right :[ | 18:13 |
| tortoisedoc | hur hur | 18:18 |
| tortoisedoc | chroot: cannot change root directory to /opt/alien: Operation not permitted [ | 18:18 |
| tortoisedoc | so no go :) | 18:18 |
| tortoisedoc | (from nemo btw) | 18:18 |
| tortoisedoc | hm i wonder | 18:23 |
| inch | kimmoli: Great, thanks. | 18:31 |
| coderus | chroot is for root only | 18:41 |
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| tortoisedoc | bh | 18:50 |
| tortoisedoc | bah | 18:50 |
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| ron_frown | greetings... long time developer here... I'm interested in developing but it looks like the website shows anything of premium quality hardware is basically sold out | 19:12 |
| ron_frown | are there any other channels I can get hardware so I can start building apps? | 19:12 |
| kimmoli | http://www.ebay.in/itm/Intex-Aqua-Fish-4G-LTE-with-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-5-2GB-RAM-16-GB-8MP-/282098603976 | 19:13 |
| ron_frown | wonder what 6499 is in usd | 19:14 |
| ron_frown | thats a fairly premium device? | 19:14 |
| ron_frown | expected to get os upgrades and what not | 19:14 |
| kimmoli | 95 usd | 19:15 |
| ron_frown | wow | 19:15 |
| ron_frown | thats nothing | 19:15 |
| kimmoli | well its not premium device | 19:16 |
| kimmoli | #define premium | 19:16 |
| kimmoli | but that is the only device with sailfish on sale atm | 19:16 |
| ron_frown | I dont know, hardware wise something thats relatively close to samsung galaxy s6/s7? | 19:16 |
| ron_frown | oh | 19:16 |
| ron_frown | maybe I should just find a port/port it to raspberry pi 3 | 19:18 |
| ron_frown | for dev | 19:18 |
| kimmoli | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 19:18 |
| ron_frown | is it dying off? | 19:19 |
| ron_frown | sailfish I mean? | 19:19 |
| kimmoli | there are opinions out there about that. | 19:19 |
| r0kk3rz | ron_frown: theres never been a 'premium' sailfish device sold, unless you count gold plated as premium as i guess | 19:20 |
| ron_frown | I think sailfish has always been attractive | 19:20 |
| ron_frown | os wise | 19:20 |
| kimmoli | well the sdk emulator get you started with devel (?) | 19:21 |
| ron_frown | yeah | 19:21 |
| ron_frown | I mean I'd easily drop 95usd on one of those aqua mobiles | 19:21 |
| ron_frown | thats fine | 19:21 |
| ron_frown | but I do want to know that things are still progressing | 19:22 |
| kimmoli | https://blog.jolla.com/ | 19:22 |
| r0kk3rz | ron_frown: you might have fun with mobile connectivity in the US | 19:22 |
| r0kk3rz | ron_frown: yeah, next update looks like a big one, so theres that at least | 19:22 |
| ron_frown | ehh | 19:22 |
| ron_frown | honestly I'm not needing hardware to daily drive | 19:23 |
| ron_frown | just prefer to deploy on real hardware | 19:23 |
| ron_frown | at least in android dev world | 19:23 |
| ron_frown | you can test and test and test in emu | 19:23 |
| ron_frown | and put in the store and bam | 19:23 |
| ron_frown | problems | 19:23 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats cool, if you just want a developers device then aqua fish is perfect | 19:23 |
| r0kk3rz | just making you aware | 19:23 |
| kimmoli | for that aquafish is worth of the money | 19:23 |
| ron_frown | is 2.0 the latest ver of sailfish? | 19:24 |
| kimmoli | 2.0.5.6 exactly | 19:24 |
| kimmoli | it came last week to public | 19:24 |
| ron_frown | how are updates in sailfish... can you theoretically upgrade and upgrade, or do hardware vendors have to do stuff like android | 19:24 |
| r0kk3rz | ron_frown: dont think of it in terms of major versions like that... sailfish doesnt really work that way | 19:25 |
| ron_frown | does it work more like say ubuntu | 19:25 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 19:25 |
| ron_frown | or pc oss | 19:25 |
| ron_frown | wher eyou can upgrade | 19:25 |
| r0kk3rz | smaller more regular updates | 19:25 |
| ron_frown | and hardware may run well with it or not | 19:25 |
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| tortoisedoc | ron_frown : whats your target in making apps? money-wise its not a great catch | 19:40 |
| tortoisedoc | but its definitely an experience to develop on SFOS :) | 19:41 |
| ron_frown | sfos? | 19:41 |
| ron_frown | honestly I'm fed up with android | 19:41 |
| tortoisedoc | sailfishos | 19:41 |
| ron_frown | oh | 19:41 |
| tortoisedoc | (not san francisco os heh) | 19:41 |
| ron_frown | I want to further the platform | 19:41 |
| ron_frown | I'd probably contributing to the app market | 19:41 |
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| ron_frown | but also contributing to core if people would take it | 19:41 |
| tortoisedoc | there is git.merproject.org for that | 19:42 |
| tortoisedoc | great idea and welcome :) | 19:42 |
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