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| Cloudhop | Is the https://sailfishos.org/ front page broken? Because right now the nav menu is the worst "I spy" game ever invented, at least until you scroll down and it suddenly remembers that it should have a background | 04:26 |
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| kimmoli | intentional, i would say.. there is fancy pic which it wants to show fullscreen, when it is gone, it shows menu | 04:52 |
| Cloudhop | You sure? Because on mobile the menu doesn't move at all, so the hamburger menu and logo are half hidden. Seems like it was intended to have a background, or something. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 05:02 |
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| Ultra_DuckZ | I just installed the latest update, I'm a bit surprised by the fact jolla re-implemented a file browser although there is already one | 10:29 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | it doesn't look as nice, it's hard to reach, being hidden in the settings, but it's got bluetooth sharing which the other filebrowser has been stubborningly missing, so now I need two of the same app | 10:30 |
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| deryah | where is the latest update? | 10:34 |
| deryah | what's the difference between the sfe-onyx and the sailfishos-onyx-release? | 10:39 |
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| urjaman | maybe ask the porters channel for this kind of stufff? | 10:41 |
| urjaman | ( #sailfishos-porters ) | 10:41 |
| r0kk3rz | deryah: you want the .zip | 10:43 |
| r0kk3rz | not the tar.bz2 | 10:43 |
| deryah | thanks r0kk3rz | 10:45 |
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| abranson | hey Ultra_DuckZ: install jolla-settings-system-storage-shortcut | 11:24 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: ooh theres a shortcut? nice | 11:25 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | abranson: what is that? | 11:44 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | I cant't find it btw | 11:45 |
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| abranson | Ultra_DuckZ: it's a launcher that's not installed by default. goes straight to the storage page. | 11:54 |
| abranson | you'd have to install it with pkcon or zypper. | 11:55 |
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| Ultra_DuckZ | abranson: I've decided not to install anything that doesn't come from the store, so if zypper is the suse command I'll pass | 13:33 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | abranson: that's not really important tho, my question was more why they decided to duplicate an already existing app rather than improve on it | 13:34 |
| abranson | Ultra_DuckZ: well it's coming from the same place as the settings app, but I understand | 13:34 |
| abranson | for the second point - are you talking about that really old file manager? | 13:35 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | it's ok, I've never got bluetooth sharing of arbitrary files up until now, so I can survive with the current state of things :) | 13:35 |
| urjaman | no i think he's talking about the file manager someone else made | 13:35 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | I'm talking about either File Browser, which is abandoned but surely could be forked, or even Cargo Dock | 13:36 |
| urjaman | and well, it's someone elses, and they cant put things with sharing into the jolla store since jolla hasnt made an API available for that... | 13:36 |
| abranson | from what i understand, the new one is derived from the new filebrowser plugin, so it can be used as a file picker etc by other apps | 13:36 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | ah I see, that changes things a bit then | 13:36 |
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| deryah | rokk3rz: do you happen to have the onyx usb driver for linux? | 15:34 |
| deryah | i tried searching for it but couldn't find it | 15:34 |
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| r0kk3rz | deryah: i dont own an onyx, so no | 15:53 |
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| Sailor140 | Hello! is thers some sailors? | 16:38 |
| grikra | hi Sailor140 | 16:39 |
| Sailor140 | hi grirka! :)) | 16:39 |
| grikra | you have sailfish? | 16:40 |
| Sailor140 | yeah, and you? | 16:40 |
| Sailor140 | I need some advice from #sailfishos. | 16:41 |
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| plirklan | not yet | 16:41 |
| Sailor140 | why not? | 16:41 |
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| plirklan | i haven't figured out how to install on my phone | 16:42 |
| Sailor140 | what phone you have? | 16:42 |
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| plirklan | motorola droid 4 (xt894) | 16:43 |
| Sailor140 | and of course you have ron/port for that phone? | 16:43 |
| plirklan | not exactly, there's one for the 897 | 16:44 |
| plirklan | what do you have? | 16:44 |
| Sailor140 | hammerhead | 16:44 |
| Sailor140 | so i think tou need rebuild this rom | 16:45 |
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| deryah | i'm really really sorry but please help me please | 16:47 |
| deryah | i'm typing fastboot devices into the linux terminal and it says "no permissions" i can't find a solution via google what do i do? | 16:48 |
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| till | deryah are you root? | 16:48 |
| deryah | *i'm typing "fastboot devices" | 16:48 |
| r0kk3rz | deryah: you need a sudo | 16:48 |
| deryah | no i'm not | 16:48 |
| Sailor140 | try wit root | 16:48 |
| deryah | i've not even unlocked the bootloader | 16:48 |
| deryah | r0kk3rz: how do i do it?? | 16:49 |
| r0kk3rz | deryah: then im not sure you're going to have much luck with fastboot and a locked bootloader | 16:49 |
| Sailor140 | how i can update hammerhead from 1.1.9.28 to 2.0 | 16:49 |
| deryah | ok i've typed sudo fastboot devices | 16:49 |
| deryah | i think it works now | 16:51 |
| deryah | thanks so so so much r0kk3rz | 16:51 |
| Sailor140 | somebody can help me? | 16:52 |
| r0kk3rz | Sailor140: theres some OTA instructions on the wiki | 16:53 |
| Sailor140 | it does not work , all updates was ok, but version is the same | 16:54 |
| r0kk3rz | Sailor140: then you probably need to have a discussion with someone in #sailfishos-porters | 16:55 |
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| deryah | i typed fastboot oem unlock but it says "waiting for device" and hasn't budged | 16:56 |
| deryah | the phone itself is not showing anything new on its screen | 16:57 |
| Sailor140 | r0kk3rz and who is #sailfish porters? l | 16:57 |
| deryah | is it bricked???? | 16:57 |
| r0kk3rz | Sailor140: its a channel, you join it like you joined this one | 16:57 |
| deryah | should i kill the terminal even though it says "waiting for device"? | 16:58 |
| r0kk3rz | deryah: did you remember the sudo? did you do the bit through the developer mode ui? | 17:00 |
| deryah | yes i did the developer mode ui | 17:00 |
| deryah | and i typed sudo fastboot devices | 17:01 |
| r0kk3rz | you need to put sudo in front of all fastboot commands | 17:01 |
| deryah | however i did not type the sudo when i typed fastboot oem unlock | 17:01 |
| deryah | i see | 17:01 |
| deryah | including the fastboot oem unlock? | 17:01 |
| r0kk3rz | all of them, including that one | 17:02 |
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| till | putting sudo in front of any command will run said command with root permission, so you need it as only root has direct usb access in your case | 17:04 |
| deryah | rokk3rz: till: ok well now it's stuck at "waiting for device" | 17:06 |
| deryah | so... how do i safely abort? | 17:06 |
| deryah | and restart? | 17:06 |
| till | press ctrl + c | 17:06 |
| till | that should close the current application | 17:06 |
| deryah | THANK YOUUUUUUU | 17:06 |
| deryah | you really saved me | 17:07 |
| till | well that's basic linux knowledge, nothing special ;) | 17:07 |
| plirklan | a terminal application | 17:10 |
| deryah | ok i've typed sudo fastboot oem unlock | 17:10 |
| deryah | but instead of congratulating me and saying i've succesfully unlocked it, it gives me a list of commands and options | 17:11 |
| till | could be the help page, maybe you have a typo | 17:11 |
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| deryah | this is what it says upon typing sudo fastboot OEM unlock | 17:12 |
| deryah | http://pastebin.com/W9F8qhJF | 17:12 |
| till | seems there is no "oem unlock" option in your fastboot | 17:12 |
| deryah | well.. how do i unlock the bootloader then??? | 17:13 |
| till | I've never done that, sorry | 17:13 |
| deryah | well.. is there a way to flash TWRP without unlocking the bootloader? | 17:14 |
| plirklan | counting to a million would take a long time | 17:14 |
| deryah | ok maybe it did actually succeed at unlocking the bootloader | 17:17 |
| deryah | it just didn't mention it | 17:17 |
| deryah | i just need to now determine if its been unlocked or not | 17:17 |
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| Tomin | it would be a typical unix tool if it didn't print anything on success (unless told to be verbose) but it would have written something in case of failure. (note that I don't know how that fastboot tool works) | 17:19 |
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| deryah | thank you Tomin | 17:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | it should've said 'ok' | 17:39 |
| r0kk3rz | oh, hes gone | 17:40 |
| r0kk3rz | nevermind, im sure hes going to manage to brick that thing | 17:40 |
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| Sailor140_ | r0kk3rz thanks! | 17:54 |
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| vilva_ | hi, has someone actually an overview which kernel options can be removed for better security or as well for improved performance. | 18:20 |
| vilva_ | Looking for a minimum config with cellular data/voice calls working, but all the not really needed rest of connectivity/debug options of kernel configured out. Trying to disable those in small subsets works, but is a kind of time consuming | 18:43 |
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| deryah | ok i'm trying to flash the recovery | 18:45 |
| deryah | but it says "error: cannot load 'twrp-3.0.3.0.img'" | 18:46 |
| deryah | where am i supposed to put 'twrp-3.0.3.0.img' for the terminal to load it? | 18:46 |
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| coderus | twrp, flash, fastboot, unlock? what are you talking about? this is #sailfishos channel, not porters one! | 19:29 |
| fledermaus | hm. | 19:32 |
| fledermaus | I wonder how long this backup to sd card is going to take. | 19:32 |
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| deryah | I DID IT GUYS I NOW HAVE THE SAILFISH OS | 20:23 |
| deryah | *hugs everyone* | 20:23 |
| r0kk3rz | now to figure out how to drive it | 20:25 |
| deryah | loooool | 20:25 |
| plirklan | congrats deryah | 20:26 |
| deryah | ok so i booted for the first time, refused the wifi, and have now rebooted | 20:26 |
| deryah | so now wifi is safe to use right? | 20:26 |
| deryah | thanks plirklan! | 20:27 |
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| deryah | wow where's the back button? | 20:29 |
| r0kk3rz | deryah: you thought i was joking when i said you need to figure out how to drive it | 20:30 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i wasnt | 20:30 |
| deryah | lolololol | 20:30 |
| deryah | does it have vpn support? | 20:31 |
| deryah | also i entered the terminal and i don't know how to exit please help | 20:35 |
| deryah | r0kk3rz | 20:36 |
| r0kk3rz | :D | 20:37 |
| deryah | can i manually configure an l2tp vpn | 20:38 |
| r0kk3rz | deryah: did you not run through the tutorial on first startup | 20:38 |
| deryah | there was no tutorial? | 20:39 |
| r0kk3rz | i think i know what happened, you rebooted before you got to it | 20:39 |
| deryah | yes lol | 20:39 |
| deryah | probably | 20:40 |
| r0kk3rz | swipe from left or right from outside the screen to minimise app | 20:40 |
| r0kk3rz | then go to the launcher | 20:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | and run the damn tutorial | 20:40 |
| deryah | where is the launcher? | 20:40 |
| r0kk3rz | swipe up from bottom | 20:41 |
| deryah | ok thank you | 20:41 |
| deryah | i'm sorry for asking a lot | 20:41 |
| deryah | would not have been possible without your support | 20:41 |
| r0kk3rz | i hope you're having fun | 20:42 |
| deryah | i most certainly am :D | 20:43 |
| deryah | ok i've completed the tutorial | 20:44 |
| deryah | but now i have questions that it didn't cover | 20:45 |
| deryah | sailfish can install android APKs right? | 20:45 |
| r0kk3rz | not the one you have | 20:46 |
| deryah | well.. which one can? | 20:48 |
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| abranson | The virtual Android vm isn't free, so it's not available for ports | 20:50 |
| coderus | official Jolla and licensed partners like Intex and Turing | 20:50 |
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| deryah | no way to hack around it? | 20:54 |
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| plirklan | they don't sell it retail, afaik | 20:54 |
| deryah | the os also does not have any native "notepad" app | 20:55 |
| deryah | is it possible via some other means to import or export and save .txt files? | 20:56 |
| plirklan | you must be mistaken | 20:57 |
| plirklan | search text editor sailfish OS | 20:58 |
| plirklan | https://github.com/n9dyfi/texteditor-sfos | 20:58 |
| deryah | also, since it is flashed over the CM | 20:58 |
| deryah | surely it must have native support for APKs as well? | 20:59 |
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| deryah | thanks for the text editor by the way | 20:59 |
| plirklan | hah | 21:00 |
| plirklan | that's a good one | 21:00 |
| kimmoli | html js placeholder | 21:01 |
| plirklan | "i recorded the beatles white album over my rolling stones cassette. Surely i can play the rolling stones as well?" | 21:04 |
| deryah | lol | 21:05 |
| deryah | ok wait now that i'm on sailfish the adb and fastboot stuff won't work anymore? | 21:05 |
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| r0kk3rz | fastboot will work fine | 21:07 |
| r0kk3rz | adb isnt really needed | 21:07 |
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| deryah | can i directly install this via linux https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse-sailfishos | 21:08 |
| deryah | as in directly put it in the sd card and install it from ther | 21:09 |
| deryah | *there | 21:09 |
| r0kk3rz | its easier to just download it via the brower on the device | 21:09 |
| deryah | no because i don't have wifi at the moment | 21:10 |
| deryah | so iam forced to transfer everything from my computer lol | 21:10 |
| r0kk3rz | right, you probably want to fix that | 21:11 |
| r0kk3rz | warehouse wont do very much at all without an internet connection | 21:11 |
| deryah | i see | 21:11 |
| deryah | sorry that was the wrong link | 21:12 |
| deryah | i meant the text editor | 21:12 |
| deryah | https://n9dyfi.github.io/texteditor-sfos/ | 21:12 |
| deryah | i can transfer the text editor package via linux right? | 21:13 |
| r0kk3rz | of course | 21:13 |
| deryah | which directory do i transfer it to so it can be readily installed? | 21:14 |
| deryah | sdcard? | 21:14 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah sdcard works | 21:14 |
| deryah | do i download the tarball or zipball package? | 21:16 |
| r0kk3rz | you're going to want an rpm | 21:16 |
| r0kk3rz | oh its a web app thingie, interesting | 21:18 |
| deryah | would .deb work? | 21:19 |
| kimmoli | no | 21:19 |
| deryah | .deb won't work?? | 21:19 |
| deryah | i can't find an rpm file for it | 21:21 |
| r0kk3rz | probably easier to just install the jolla one from the repos, which you'll need wifi to do | 21:22 |
| deryah | lol i guess i've got some work to do then | 21:23 |
| deryah | where can i find rpms that i can install right now though? | 21:23 |
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| r0kk3rz | on openrepos.net | 21:25 |
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| deryah | thank you r0kk3rz for helpin me out | 21:40 |
| deryah | bye | 21:41 |
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| plirklan | other names are surprisngly already taken... "GrimPrawn" | 22:48 |
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