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| kimmoli | new SDK https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Application_SDK#Latest_SDK_Release | 08:19 |
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| tortoisedoc | yes! yesterday night i got the update request (which I politely skipped for now) | 08:20 |
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| tortoisedoc | why the hell is the ambience changing all the time on jolla c | 10:28 |
| tortoisedoc | you put it in the pocket with ambience a | 10:28 |
| tortoisedoc | you pull it out, it will have ambience c :D | 10:28 |
| r0kk3rz | stays stuck for me | 10:28 |
| r0kk3rz | what did you break? | 10:28 |
| tortoisedoc | I didnt break jizz :P | 10:29 |
| r0kk3rz | lies | 10:29 |
| tortoisedoc | my suspicion is there is some rotation functionality implemented but not yet enabled, but not properly disabled, either | 10:29 |
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| Ingvix | If I got 2 elements on a page and I want them to be on top of each other when in portrait mode and next to each other when landscape mode, would the best thing be to use if/then statements to make this happen or is there something better that I don't know of? | 10:47 |
| r0kk3rz | that would probably be a good wiki topic | 10:53 |
| tortoisedoc | having things on top of each other in qml is hell | 10:54 |
| Ingvix | how so? | 10:56 |
| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: Landscape mode best practices on wiki please :) | 10:57 |
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| tortoisedoc | Ingvix : does the qtlayouts plugin help? | 11:02 |
| tortoisedoc | or what was the name.. | 11:02 |
| Ingvix | tortoisedoc, I don't know even know what that is | 11:02 |
| tortoisedoc | Ingvix : then read this to start | 11:03 |
| tortoisedoc | http://doc.qt.io/qt-4.8/layout.html | 11:03 |
| tortoisedoc | (its old qt btw) | 11:03 |
| tortoisedoc | (but still available in newer ones) | 11:03 |
| Ingvix | I don't know the difference between those | 11:03 |
| Ingvix | I'll take a look | 11:03 |
| tortoisedoc | and yes, its available in mer | 11:03 |
| tortoisedoc | (luckily) | 11:03 |
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| pvuorela | tortoisedoc: that would be qwidget world, doesn't apply on qml. | 11:30 |
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| pvuorela | Ingvix: you may want to adjust anchoring based on rotation. | 11:31 |
| Ingvix | pvuorela, okay, I look into it | 11:31 |
| pvuorela | or just x/y/width/height, depends. | 11:32 |
| pvuorela | Page has isPortrait/isLandscape properties. | 11:33 |
| Ingvix | oh, so with those I can build the layouts for both orientations | 11:33 |
| tortoisedoc | pvuorela : huh I thought it got ported over to qml? | 11:34 |
| tortoisedoc | (the qtquicklayouts that is) | 11:35 |
| Ingvix | so qwidgets are not to be used it sailfish apps? | 11:35 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 11:39 |
| pvuorela | Ingvix: yea, only qml. | 11:40 |
| pvuorela | tortoisedoc: related, but still not the same thing. | 11:42 |
| tortoisedoc | pvuorela : related in what sense | 11:44 |
| Ingvix | where I could find examples of the use of isPortrait and isLandscape? | 11:45 |
| pvuorela | tortoisedoc: as in being layouting, i guess :) | 11:45 |
| tortoisedoc | aha :) | 11:45 |
| tortoisedoc | pvuorela so you suggest not using qtquicklayoutcontrols? | 11:46 |
| pvuorela | don't see needed on this case. | 11:46 |
| pvuorela | Ingvix: something there https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/silica/sailfish-application-features.html/ | 11:52 |
| Ingvix | thanks | 11:54 |
| Ingvix | those pages could really use some screenshots so you could see how the changes to the code changes the appearance | 11:59 |
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| Ingvix | Did I understood correctly that, for example in this: "horizontalCenter: page.isPortrait ? parent.horizontalCenter : undefined" It says that if the orientation is portrait it uses parent.horizontalCenter and the ":" means if it's something else it's undefined? | 12:44 |
| Ingvix | Had to wonder this a moment before it got to me | 12:47 |
| Krikke | it's an if clause | 12:51 |
| Krikke | <statement> ? true : false | 12:51 |
| Ingvix | Yes, that's probably what I was trying to say | 12:51 |
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| Ultra_DuckZ | hey all | 12:52 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | I can't believe I've got no reply to my excellent comment on Jolla's blog yet -_- | 12:52 |
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| Ultra_DuckZ | refund plz | 12:52 |
| Ingvix | did you pay for that comment | 12:53 |
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| tortoisedoc | Ultra_DuckZ : which comment | 13:01 |
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| Ingvix | leszek, how exatly can I change the virtual machines orientation? I can't seem to find it | 13:10 |
| leszek | Ingvix: let me take a look | 13:18 |
| Ingvix | you do that | 13:19 |
| leszek | Ingvix: Extras -> Mer -> Emulator Mode | 13:20 |
| Ingvix | where are the extras? | 13:21 |
| leszek | In the menu bar | 13:21 |
| Ingvix | are we talking about sailfishos ide? | 13:21 |
| leszek | of sailfishos sdk ide | 13:21 |
| Ingvix | hmm | 13:21 |
| leszek | yeah | 13:21 |
| Ingvix | I found it in tools > Mer > Emulator mode | 13:22 |
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| Ingvix | maybe you got some other version | 13:22 |
| Ingvix | but thanks anyway | 13:22 |
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| leszek | Ingvix: maybe its a localization thing | 13:23 |
| leszek | forgot to start it with LC_ALL=C so I had a german localization in the IDE | 13:23 |
| Ingvix | probably | 13:24 |
| Ingvix | I'm also getting this sort of error: | 13:26 |
| Ingvix | [W] DeclarativeWindow::DeclarativeWindow:93 - No default allowed orientations defined. Check your device configuration! | 13:26 |
| Ingvix | Where can I fix this? | 13:26 |
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| Ingvix | it's the only one that's not defaulting to anything like pixel ratios do | 13:32 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 13:39 |
| tortoisedoc | in lipstick compositor | 13:39 |
| tortoisedoc | there's takeFocus | 13:39 |
| tortoisedoc | it appears to be a slot to a wayland item | 13:40 |
| tortoisedoc | I guess it's used somewhere else? | 13:40 |
| Ingvix | where can I get to the lipstick compositor? | 13:43 |
| Ingvix | tortoisedoc, | 13:51 |
| tortoisedoc | Ingvix : you cant unless you are running in jolla-lipstick -> patches | 13:52 |
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| Ingvix | uh, I didn't quite get that | 13:56 |
| Ingvix | can I set a default orientation to the vm somehow or not? | 13:56 |
| Ingvix | if yes, what does it require? | 13:56 |
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| Ultra_DuckZ | tortoisedoc: grep for duckz on the latest blog's entry | 14:16 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | tortoisedoc: but yeah, it doesn't really matter, it's not *that* funny maybe... idk, this morning I thought it was funnier than what I think it is now | 14:18 |
| * Ultra_DuckZ shrugs | 14:18 | |
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| r0kk3rz | Ultra_DuckZ: remember we live in the age without irony | 14:50 |
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| Ultra_DuckZ | r0kk3rz: I tend to forget that :/ | 14:59 |
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| Ultra_DuckZ | and maybe the citation was also not very easy to catch? http://arstechnica.co.uk/business/2015/11/kickstarter-learned-of-zano-collapse-through-a-bare-bones-project-update/ not sure... | 15:03 |
| Ultra_DuckZ | far worse than the tablet situation, but people don't really realize I guess | 15:04 |
| r0kk3rz | and peachy printer, and skully | 15:04 |
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| Ultra_DuckZ | how's jolla going nowdays btw? did they recover? I see the offer on their website is transparent thin | 15:09 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah it looks that way | 15:11 |
| r0kk3rz | they got new funding, new partnerships | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | phones out | 15:11 |
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| Ultra_DuckZ | :( | 15:12 |
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| coderus | !ыуут ЫашуеЛщтыефтешт | 15:34 |
| merbot | coderus: Error: "ыуут" is not a valid command. | 15:34 |
| coderus | !seen SfietKonstantin | 15:34 |
| merbot | coderus: SfietKonstantin was last seen in #sailfishos 7 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <SfietKonstantin> workshops | 15:34 |
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| merbot | coderus: SfietKonstantinW was last seen in #sailfishos 2 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, 32 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <SfietKonstantinW> nh1402_work: if there is minimum Qt, it is ok, you can use Qt stuff to handle DBus | 15:34 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | test | 15:37 |
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| rkrohk_ | Hi | 16:51 |
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| coderus | rkrohk_: yo | 17:59 |
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| rkrohk_ | Can anyone teach me how to port sailfish os for op3 | 18:02 |
| rkrohk_ | I have built Roms but never ported | 18:02 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | dumpa dump | 18:21 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | pvuorela : ping, who could answer some questions on lipstick? | 18:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (related to focus handling) | 18:22 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmhm | 18:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | mer includes qtcompositor | 18:37 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | but qtcompositor has different qtwaylandsurface than qtwayland.. | 18:37 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | as in more recent | 18:40 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | andrewalker : ping | 18:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | andrewalker : are you getting your hands dirty with lipstick (sorry I do not remember if we had this discussion before) | 18:45 |
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| urjaman | lol | 18:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lol | 18:52 |
| tortoisedoc_ | it sounds very serious indeed :D | 18:52 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | grrrr | 19:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc_: wt are you on about? | 20:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | r0kk3rz fighting with focus and wayland | 20:02 |
| r0kk3rz | who's winning? | 20:03 |
| r0kk3rz | you or wayland? | 20:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | focus & wayland or so it seems atm | 20:06 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but its just a matter of time | 20:06 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and enough grrrrr-ing | 20:07 |
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| pvuorela | tortoisedoc_: focus handling, um, i'll pass to rainemak | 20:16 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | pvuorela : thanks | 20:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | pvuorela : actually, it seems the plot is thickening | 20:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | im not 100% sure this to be a focus issue | 20:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | input seems to come through fine | 20:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but wayland does not get update / damage requests to the client | 20:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | or to be precise, only certain touch events cause damage | 20:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but now sleep | 20:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | gnite jar saggy dastards! | 20:30 |
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