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| Waltsu_ | hi | 08:39 |
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| coderus | yo | 08:54 |
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| Ingvix | Could someone tell what would be the wrong here: http://pastebin.com/Gqwxuv75 | 10:23 |
| Ingvix | as I'm trying to create recovery file for my phone | 10:24 |
| leszek | Ingvix: looks like permission problem | 10:26 |
| till | are you root? | 10:27 |
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| Ingvix | well I'm in recovery | 10:29 |
| till | and normally you don't need to back up /proc, /sys, /run etc as those are virtual directories created during runtime | 10:29 |
| Ingvix | I just pretty much wanted to backup the whole system as I'm sending it for repair | 10:29 |
| till | you are in recovery mode then? in this mode the "normal" file system is not mounted, so you have to do that first to get your data | 10:30 |
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| Ingvix | oh | 10:31 |
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| Ingvix | I'm glad to hear more advanced ways to backup my apps and patches if you got something to offer | 10:31 |
| till | the "normal" file system is on the paritition /dev/mmcblk0p28, if you type "mount" you can see if it is mounted or not | 10:31 |
| Ingvix | yes | 10:31 |
| till | if you want to do a complete backup of the whole device you can use dd to copy the whole partition to a sd card (with ext4 file system for example) | 10:32 |
| till | if you want to save your user data, mount /dev/mmcblk0p28 and tar the home-directory for example | 10:33 |
| Ingvix | I wish to have it as a file to my pc using rsync | 10:33 |
| Ingvix | first I need to get the file made | 10:33 |
| till | well, in this case you would need a lot of temp space on the device | 10:33 |
| Ingvix | well I could save the file to my sdcard temporarily | 10:34 |
| Ingvix | it's almost empty | 10:34 |
| Ingvix | 16gb if I recall right | 10:34 |
| till | what format does your sd card have? | 10:34 |
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| till | fat32 for example has a 4gb file size limit which you have to keep in mind | 10:35 |
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| Ingvix | yes | 10:38 |
| till | you have to mount both your sdcard and your root file system, then you can copy/tar your files | 10:39 |
| Ingvix | so I understood | 10:39 |
| Ingvix | so in order to backup my apps and patches do I only tar the mmcblk0p28 or the recovery root? | 10:40 |
| till | my backup consists of archiving /home/nemo for the sailfish user data, /data/media and /data/data for the android apps. and I save /var/lib/conman for stored wifi connections | 10:40 |
| till | you only need mmcblk0p28 | 10:41 |
| Ingvix | okay | 10:41 |
| till | the rest is firmware and call and data usage counter | 10:41 |
| till | afaik | 10:41 |
| till | I guess tar -xcf /SDCARD/backup.tar.gz /dev/mmcblk0p28 would be sufficient for creating that backup | 10:43 |
| till | but might get pretty big as the whole partition and not only your data is saved, thus I would add at least gzip compression | 10:44 |
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| urjaman | you just compressed it :P | 10:48 |
| urjaman | with the .tar.gz :P | 10:48 |
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| urjaman | anyways, i just updated 2.0.0 -> 2.0.2 :P | 10:49 |
| till | yes, I meant add it to his first tar command :p | 10:49 |
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| urjaman | I'm not sure it was worth it (we'll see), but i need to keep upto-date :P | 10:52 |
| till | lunch break :) btw, actually I compressed it with -cz, the file name doesn't matter :P | 10:53 |
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| urjaman | yeah but you didnt have the z on that command, and it isnt necessary | 10:55 |
| urjaman | with modern enough tar they'll infer the compression from the filename | 10:55 |
| urjaman | actually, you have xc which is extract and create ... nope. | 10:56 |
| till | indeed, i meant to write -czf ... | 10:57 |
| till | didn't know... is it really getting so windows like.. | 10:58 |
| urjaman | you can still override it if you like to make a .tar.gz that actually isnt compressed | 10:59 |
| urjaman | or is compressed with bzip2 | 11:00 |
| urjaman | or make a .tar.bz2 that is actually compressed with gz | 11:00 |
| urjaman | thats one i've actually done | 11:00 |
| urjaman | confusing as f | 11:00 |
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| urjaman | (the disabling being --no-auto-compress ...) | 11:02 |
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| urjaman | coderus: so do i remember right that you're not going to update the launcher patches anymore?, or was it something/someone else ... | 11:03 |
| * urjaman cant find anything again since the launcher is now stock and sparse | 11:04 | |
| Ingvix | sdcard was fat but formatted it to ntfs | 11:07 |
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| coderus | urjaman: i'll do this week | 11:11 |
| Ingvix | is mmcblk0p28's type ext3? | 11:14 |
| urjaman | btrfs | 11:14 |
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| Ingvix | okay, thanks | 11:15 |
| urjaman | coderus: cool, thanks-in-advance :) | 11:16 |
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| Ingvix | what's my sdcard called in /dev? | 11:17 |
| urjaman | mmcblk1 | 11:18 |
| urjaman | add pN for the partitions (p1 likely) | 11:19 |
| Ingvix | ah, yes | 11:21 |
| Ingvix | what should I type for the file system type? now it's saying: mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk1p1 on /sdcard failed: No such device | 11:22 |
| Ingvix | I tried ntfs | 11:22 |
| urjaman | umm | 11:22 |
| urjaman | I'd guess you cant write ntfs from rescue mode | 11:23 |
| urjaman | but also, did the device node exist? | 11:23 |
| Ingvix | oh, so I should probably format it to ext3 or something | 11:24 |
| Ingvix | if the node is the file in the /dev/ then yes | 11:24 |
| urjaman | is the sd card detected at all? | 11:24 |
| urjaman | but anyways dmesg should be useful | 11:24 |
| urjaman | i dd|nc'd the whole eMMC to my computer last night in prep for the upgrade (no half measures here :P) | 11:27 |
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| Ingvix | now it says invalid argument if I try to mount with -t ext3 | 11:34 |
| Ingvix | after formatting the sdcard to ext3 | 11:34 |
| urjaman | dmesg dmesg dmesg | 11:35 |
| r0kk3rz | urjaman: careful you'll summon linus doing that | 11:37 |
| urjaman | lol | 11:37 |
| Ingvix | I don't really undestand much of dmesg output | 11:37 |
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| urjaman | in this case just look at the last few lines (dmesg | tail or so), and even then only if they were added when you tried to mount | 11:41 |
| urjaman | so maybe try it again and look at dmesg again | 11:41 |
| urjaman | then if you still dont get it, maybe pastebin them and link here? | 11:41 |
| urjaman | i'll need to check if rescue has tail, but i guess yes :P | 11:42 |
| urjaman | "Näkemiin!" hahaha | 11:43 |
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| urjaman | anyways the thing to know is that usually you shouldnt need to specify the fs type, so if it doesnt work without the fs type, there's something wrong anyways (specifying the type will only make it limits its attempt to that type...) | 11:47 |
| urjaman | but yes, ext2/3/4 should be valid... | 11:47 |
| urjaman | I'd need to sacrifice an uSD card to test the ext3 though ... | 11:48 |
| Ingvix | now it worked | 11:49 |
| urjaman | good, i can reboot out of rescue :P | 11:49 |
| Ingvix | guess something went wrong when I formatted it the first time and it got corrupted | 11:49 |
| urjaman | maybe you had it mounted at the same time? | 11:50 |
| urjaman | or pulled it out too fast... | 11:50 |
| Ingvix | I don't know | 11:51 |
| urjaman | i was just saying possible causes so you can avoid that kind of stuff later | 11:51 |
| urjaman | the fancy dual SIM support is just rubbing it to me that i (only) have a "SIM1" :P | 11:52 |
| urjaman | (when asking for PIN code) | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | urjaman: yes it would be nice if you didnt constantly have a inactive SIM2 on the status bar taunting you | 11:53 |
| urjaman | well, jolla1 doesnt do that since it doesnt have 2 sim support | 11:53 |
| urjaman | but the pin asker was still specifically a pin for "SIM1 | Saunalahti" :P | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | jolla C does | 11:54 |
| urjaman | yeah, it only reminded me that i dont have a C :P, but OTOH i just didnt get the point of that for me | 11:55 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah the jphone isnt bad | 11:56 |
| urjaman | yeah i only joined the thing because keyboard, so a keyboardless phone sounded like a downgrade | 11:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah, but imo the bigger screen makes vkb bareable | 12:01 |
| urjaman | thats another thing, i dont want a bigger phone | 12:01 |
| urjaman | the jolla1 is on the "it's bearable" limit to me | 12:01 |
| Ingvix | is it normal that when launching tar command it says the output file doesn't exist | 12:02 |
| urjaman | did you accidentally x instead of c? | 12:03 |
| urjaman | as was in a command here :P | 12:03 |
| Ingvix | no | 12:03 |
| Ingvix | I used -cfv | 12:03 |
| urjaman | uhh | 12:03 |
| urjaman | the f should be last afaik | 12:04 |
| urjaman | thing after it is filename ... | 12:04 |
| Ingvix | tar: /sdcard/recovery.tar: No such file or directory | 12:04 |
| Ingvix | tar: removing leading '/' from member names | 12:04 |
| Ingvix | then the phone rebooted | 12:04 |
| Ingvix | disconnecting the recovery | 12:05 |
| suosaaski | screen size is also a matter of what one is used to. | 12:05 |
| citylight2 | hi, I have asked about waking the jolla up, with something similer to alarmd | 12:05 |
| urjaman | yeah you tried to make a file named v... | 12:05 |
| Ingvix | oh | 12:06 |
| citylight2 | I see the way to do it now is via libiphb | 12:06 |
| urjaman | i guess the thing tried to write to tmpfs | 12:06 |
| Ingvix | interesting | 12:06 |
| urjaman | and ran out of RAM | 12:06 |
| citylight2 | is there any other way? | 12:06 |
| urjaman | and killed something | 12:06 |
| urjaman | and rebooted | 12:06 |
| suosaaski | I don't understand why jolla wants to make the C limited edition, people quite clearly would like to buy it. | 12:06 |
| Ingvix | let's try again then | 12:06 |
| tadzik | intex might be unhappy about the competition :) | 12:06 |
| suosaaski | intex does not give them to jolla for free, I would guess. | 12:07 |
| suosaaski | And jolla is twice as expensive | 12:07 |
| urjaman | they supposedly arent aqua fishes, though that sounds fishy | 12:07 |
| tadzik | oh, I thought C is cheaper | 12:07 |
| suosaaski | 169e vs 75e | 12:07 |
| r0kk3rz | suosaaski: shipping + vat takes a big chunk out of the difference | 12:08 |
| suosaaski | r0kk3rz: iirc that makes it around 100-110 eur | 12:09 |
| suosaaski | still quite a difference | 12:09 |
| suosaaski | I would buy the intex if it was available from somewhere else than ebay, especially with those credit card copies they apparently want | 12:10 |
| r0kk3rz | suosaaski: because the Intex phone doesnt support EU 4g bands? | 12:10 |
| Ingvix | now it seems to be rolling fine | 12:12 |
| suosaaski | r0kk3rz: it doesn't? | 12:13 |
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| suosaaski | even if it doesn't, I don't think it matters (for the price), I would just want to test Sailfish a bit. | 12:13 |
| r0kk3rz | suosaaski: the supported bands are quite different. | 12:15 |
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| suosaaski | it doesn't matter to me if it works at "just" 3G. | 12:15 |
| nh1402_work | suosaaski: it's also on Amazon | 12:17 |
| nh1402_work | in India | 12:17 |
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| suosaaski | Although I find it kinda funny that Jolla stated that they are stolen or fake, and then it turns out they were legit. | 12:18 |
| mal- | some serious communication problem | 12:20 |
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| Ingvix | when extracting with tar, does it automatically overwrite files? | 12:22 |
| urjaman | anyways, fingerterm 1.0.17, finally :) | 12:22 |
| urjaman | something good about 2.0.2 | 12:23 |
| Ingvix | why not 1.1.23 | 12:23 |
| Ingvix | well I guess it's just an unofficial release | 12:24 |
| Ingvix | in openrepos | 12:24 |
| suosaaski | gotta ask... apart from the intex device, is there any other sailfish device one can buy? | 12:24 |
| urjaman | i wonder whose branch that is :P | 12:24 |
| suosaaski | (not talking about used ones) | 12:24 |
| Ingvix | https://openrepos.net/content/lourens/fingerterm | 12:24 |
| urjaman | not new right now i suppose | 12:25 |
| suosaaski | kinda hard to get excited about developing for it with no devices... | 12:25 |
| Ingvix | seems my backup was a success | 12:29 |
| r0kk3rz | suosaaski: theres a bunch in the pipeline | 12:30 |
| suosaaski | remains to be seen which actually make it to market | 12:32 |
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| Ingvix | rough times we're living in, indeed | 12:34 |
| r0kk3rz | i think the oysters sf will probably make it | 12:34 |
| r0kk3rz | turing phone is a bit of a gamble still | 12:34 |
| r0kk3rz | fp2 should happen, they've been talking about it long enough | 12:35 |
| Ingvix | Haven't heard about this oysters | 12:35 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: Ruski phone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oysters_SF | 12:36 |
| Ingvix | interesting | 12:36 |
| suosaaski | Just trying to imagine how sailfish would fly on my oneplus2 :) | 12:37 |
| r0kk3rz | the russian govt are interested in SF and are probably bankrolling the project | 12:37 |
| coderus | https://vk.com/merproject | 12:38 |
| suosaaski | Or even my lg g3. | 12:39 |
| coderus | i saw Ermak OMP with sfos and it works perfect :) | 12:39 |
| coderus | Oysters are not ready yet | 12:39 |
| nh1402_work | suosaaski: give it a port, help ghosalmartin with his aarch64 port, then you'll be able to port to your phone too | 12:40 |
| nh1402_work | suosaaski: the g3 should be no problem | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: Ermak OMP? | 12:42 |
| * urjaman restored his gles lib hack | 12:42 | |
| urjaman | gta vc works again... | 12:42 |
| urjaman | then to fix the android keymap again.. | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: ah the murder weapon | 12:43 |
| urjaman | i should make a script or somethin :P | 12:43 |
| urjaman | says something that the most useful usb state is called dev mode :P | 12:45 |
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| kimmoli | blue oyester bar is the one with mediatek... | 13:07 |
| kimmoli | ermak was with qcom? | 13:08 |
| urjaman | darn the two Generic.kcm' are confusing :P | 13:13 |
| urjaman | but yeah android fixed ... | 13:13 |
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| urjaman | the qmap seems to be okay, either didnt get reset or was fixed... | 13:15 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: yeah, heavy weapon :D | 13:15 |
| urjaman | atleast @ works :P | 13:15 |
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| tadzik | hm, looking at that wiki page I noticed that Opera Software is apparently a member of the Sailfish Alliance | 13:26 |
| tadzik | that's unexpected | 13:26 |
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| r0kk3rz | sailfish alliance is old | 13:27 |
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| Stskeeps | tadzik: who wasnt :p | 13:42 |
| tadzik | :P | 13:42 |
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| coderus | is there any simple filepicker component you using? | 14:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | it would be really nice if they released the one they're using in the new storage settings app | 14:32 |
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| leszek | r0kk3rz: sailfish-filemanager-component I think is how it is called | 14:47 |
| leszek | though I doubt it is allowed in harbour | 14:48 |
| leszek | or will be even when 2.0.2 becomes final | 14:48 |
| abranson | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/nemo-qml-plugin-filemanager | 14:48 |
| r0kk3rz | oh nice | 14:51 |
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| coderus | okay, last thing i need for my splashscreen changer is filepicker | 16:07 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: use sailfish built in? | 16:21 |
| kimmoli | ImagePicker or whatitwas | 16:21 |
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| coderus | trying Nemo.FileManager now :) | 16:26 |
| dr_gogeta86 | something missing ... every app use a different approach | 16:28 |
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| coderus | It's alive! | 17:37 |
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| coderus | can anyone check if droid-config-l500d-sailfish package is installed on intex? | 17:49 |
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| coderus | splashscreen changer: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/splashscreen-changer | 18:44 |
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| urjaman | hah, managed to crash the calculator | 21:19 |
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| urjaman | you can make a B = A; A = B loop with it (i used 2 for the value initially, so it just stays at 2). then modify A = B to be A * 5 = B; | 21:21 |
| urjaman | this is still fine, as in inf = inf; inf * 5 = inf; ... | 21:22 |
| urjaman | then delete the 5 from the multiplier | 21:22 |
| urjaman | and the calc goes *poof* | 21:22 |
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| urjaman | do you guys even test ? :P | 21:24 |
| coderus | urjaman: understood nothing | 21:24 |
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| urjaman | https://twitter.com/urjaman/status/760587679302029312 | 21:27 |
| urjaman | twitter happened to be the fastest sharing i apparently had set up (is this tweeting a picture new? i feel like i didnt notice it before... this screenshot function was new (in the bare os) too :P) | 21:29 |
| abranson | i didn't know the jolla calculator did loops | 21:30 |
| kimmoli | reproduced | 21:31 |
| urjaman | yeah I've done some quite epic things with it (dependent calculations), and i'm sad that it cannot save these :P | 21:31 |
| abranson | oh you can select the result and modify it, and it'll modify the expression | 21:33 |
| abranson | wow i never knew it was so useful | 21:33 |
| urjaman | yeah you can also pick one of the boxes and replace it with a result | 21:34 |
| urjaman | thats how the loop is made | 21:34 |
| urjaman | one thing to note tough: it uses floats... as in 32-bit floats | 21:34 |
| urjaman | not very accurate :P | 21:34 |
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| urjaman | yeah it doesnt take that long to multiply past about 3x10^38... | 21:43 |
| urjaman | actually it goes 10x10^37 * 10 = 0x10^2147483647 | 21:43 |
| urjaman | it's zero? it's infinity? cant make its mind :P | 21:44 |
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