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| MoritzJT | can't install lipstick-qt5-tools on 2.0.3.11 - have I misconfigured, or is it coming? 😉 | 00:31 |
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| Acou_Bass | heey everyone, not sure if this is just me being dumb, but is sailfish supposed to havr some sort of autocorrect/word suggestions? theyve never appeared for me and yet a quick google search found lots of people trying to *disable* it | 00:42 |
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| urjaman | atleast the official version has a dictionary that suggests stuff, but it kinda sounds like it might be one of the proprietary components | 01:40 |
| urjaman | cant rememebr, but anyways afaik it doesnt autocorrect, just suggests completions ... | 01:40 |
| Acou_Bass | that sounds better than what i have... i have a blank band across my keyboard where i assume the completions should go :P | 01:48 |
| Acou_Bass | im running on a nexus 4 not a jolla though so maybe thats why | 01:49 |
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| kimmoli | Acou_Bass: yep. xt9 is not part of what ported devices can delivery pre-installed due licensing. | 04:30 |
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| Acou_Bass | kimmoli: makes sense, is there any way to install it after the fact? | 10:12 |
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| kimmoli | yes | 10:15 |
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| Acou_Bass | is it in mer-tools or something? ill have a peek :D | 10:17 |
| Acou_Bass | ahhh yep there it is | 10:18 |
| tortoisedoc | question about build targets; is the latest_armv7hl one obsolete/outdated or still in use? This is relevant for backporting qt core packages.. | 10:19 |
| kimmoli | latest is latest released afaik, 2.0.1.11 | 10:23 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : [ 40s] [135/174] installing qt5-qtcore-5.0.2-1.1.19 <- latest running qt 5.0.2? | 10:28 |
| tortoisedoc | (as in building against)= | 10:28 |
| kimmoli | hmm... Installed qt5-qtcore-5.2.1+git30-1.26.5.armv7hl The QtCore libra | 10:29 |
| tortoisedoc | I'd recall lbt mentioning something about webhooks at some point | 10:29 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : not in my log.. | 10:29 |
| tortoisedoc | could be spec file? | 10:30 |
| kimmoli | thats from device, ported oneplusx running 2.0.1.11 | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | yeah on device its qt 5.2 for a few years now | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | (soon qt 5.6 hopefully) :) | 10:31 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : im talking obs now | 10:32 |
| tortoisedoc | (worth mentioning) | 10:32 |
| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: webhooks work | 10:32 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : so then the configuration is correct? | 10:32 |
| tortoisedoc | as in qt 5.0.2? | 10:33 |
| tortoisedoc | (for latest_armv7hl target I mean) | 10:33 |
| r0kk3rz | that has nothing to do with webhooks :P | 10:33 |
| tortoisedoc | heh | 10:33 |
| r0kk3rz | afaik latest_armv7hl is latest mer-core | 10:33 |
| tortoisedoc | i mentioned them as I had the same discussion with lbt some time ago and he brought them up | 10:34 |
| tortoisedoc | yes that id recall too | 10:34 |
| tortoisedoc | so in theory qt 5.2 no? | 10:34 |
| tortoisedoc | unless mer is qt 5.0.2 | 10:34 |
| tortoisedoc | but to my understading 5.0.2 != 5.2 | 10:35 |
| kimmoli | ik you talk about obs sailfish_latest_armv7hl repos | 10:35 |
| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: yeah the package in mer-core release is different to the one in mer-core testing | 10:37 |
| r0kk3rz | s/testing/devel | 10:37 |
| r0kk3rz | that probably wants fixing | 10:38 |
| tortoisedoc | ok | 10:40 |
| tortoisedoc | so latest_amv7hl == mer-core release? | 10:40 |
| tortoisedoc | and devel is the sailfish one?' | 10:40 |
| tortoisedoc | this must be in the wiki somewhere.. | 10:41 |
| r0kk3rz | no, mer-core is mer-core | 10:47 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : yeah the package in mer-core release is different to the one in mer-core testing <- where do you see this? | 10:50 |
| tortoisedoc | (i.e. the package of the mer-core release) | 10:50 |
| locusf | yes | 10:50 |
| locusf | release or testing hasn't been updated in a while afaik | 10:51 |
| tortoisedoc | thx locusf | 10:55 |
| tortoisedoc | a while is meant as an euphemism right? :P | 10:56 |
| tortoisedoc | wonder if it's planned to change any time in the near future or if I'll have to go all the way to 5.0.2 with the backport.. | 10:56 |
| taaem | why not use sailfish_latest_armv7hl? That would be at 5.2 or wait til 5.6 lands | 10:58 |
| tortoisedoc | taaem : sailfish_latest_armv7hl is green for me, i was just wondering for latest_armv7hl failures; plus I guess if I'd like to propose the package to be included in mer-core, release has to build too? | 10:59 |
| tortoisedoc | (or at least that's what I would assume)= | 11:01 |
| taaem | So your backport works on sailfish_la... thats using mer-core:devel or afaik? so if devel gets promoted to testing or release it should be fine, since new patches probably won't go directly into release | 11:01 |
| tortoisedoc | taaem : yes that is correct | 11:03 |
| tortoisedoc | taaem : but is my package included as is? or do I need to "promote" it via lgtm? | 11:03 |
| locusf | nononono | 11:03 |
| locusf | sailfish_latest is not mer-core:devel | 11:03 |
| tortoisedoc | huh | 11:04 |
| tortoisedoc | which one is which? :) | 11:04 |
| locusf | sailfish_latest is just something that points to the latest release | 11:04 |
| locusf | mer-core:devel is the bleedingest edge | 11:04 |
| locusf | thats where all git.merproject.org stuff goes | 11:05 |
| tortoisedoc | locusf : is mer-core:devel a branch of mer-core or a building target on obs? | 11:05 |
| taaem | locusf: and is there a mer-core project that tracks sailfish releases? | 11:06 |
| locusf | building target is mer-core:armv7hl:devel | 11:06 |
| locusf | taaem: there is none | 11:06 |
| taaem | okay | 11:06 |
| locusf | I'm not 100% sure how mer-core:devel reflects to different mer-core:*:devel architectures | 11:07 |
| taaem | tortoisedoc: what are you backporting btw? | 11:08 |
| tortoisedoc | qtpurchasing | 11:08 |
| tortoisedoc | seemed simple | 11:08 |
| tortoisedoc | is not :) | 11:08 |
| taaem | mmh would that even do something on sailfish? Isn't it just an interface to the play store/app store? | 11:09 |
| tortoisedoc | not yet afaik | 11:09 |
| tortoisedoc | but you do not see the forest from the trees :) | 11:10 |
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| tortoisedoc | everyone is complaining there's no payment options on harbour | 11:10 |
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| tortoisedoc | well, lets do something about it no? | 11:10 |
| taaem | true | 11:10 |
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| taaem | i wonder what would be the best option for payment. Maybe one should do a paypal backend for qtpurchasing which then would be cross-platform and stuff | 11:11 |
| tortoisedoc | the module is really simple anyways, like zero-effort (toqt 5.2 at least) | 11:12 |
| tortoisedoc | taaem thats the direction I was exploring as well | 11:12 |
| tortoisedoc | it still'd require a backend to sit between your app and the paypal service tho | 11:12 |
| tortoisedoc | (or some sort of local safe storage) | 11:12 |
| tortoisedoc | the backend however would be very simple and could be opensourced too | 11:13 |
| tortoisedoc | so you could just drop it on your own server, tune it, configure your items and bang | 11:13 |
| tortoisedoc | it migh be there's already something like that even | 11:13 |
| tortoisedoc | havent had the time to look for it yet | 11:13 |
| tortoisedoc | speaking of local storage, I noticed jollac now has priviledged group for nemo user | 11:14 |
| taaem | tortoisedoc: https://qtdeveloperdays.blogspot.de/2015/08/implementing-new-backend-for-qt.html | 11:14 |
| tortoisedoc | taaem : yes ive seen that :) | 11:15 |
| tortoisedoc | problem is, the backend would need to be "store agnostic" | 11:15 |
| tortoisedoc | as in, ideally work with paypal, bitcoin, cc, put_your_service_here | 11:15 |
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| taaem | tortoisedoc: how would you want to accomplish that ? | 11:16 |
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| tortoisedoc | it'd need either separate interfaces | 11:17 |
| tortoisedoc | or a generic, flexible interface | 11:17 |
| taaem | the best would be if we got payment support in harbour and then one could just hook into that interface | 11:21 |
| tortoisedoc | now you are thinking server-side | 11:22 |
| tortoisedoc | but it takes two to tango | 11:22 |
| tortoisedoc | as in client side | 11:22 |
| tortoisedoc | which (at least in my view) would make sense to be qt based | 11:22 |
| tortoisedoc | hence, qtpurchasing | 11:22 |
| tortoisedoc | of course the ideal solution is integrated into harbour | 11:23 |
| taaem | what i was thinking about if harbour got payment support the sailfish app would have gotten functions for paying and stuff and qtpurchasing could be hooked to use them | 11:24 |
| tortoisedoc | but unfortunately it does not seem jolla will take that even slightly in consideration in the nearby future (at least to my knowledge) | 11:24 |
| tortoisedoc | of course nobody would be able to stop jolla from relying on such a service for harbour as well :) | 11:24 |
| taaem | yep thats really sad because it could boost the platform | 11:24 |
| tortoisedoc | (once it is ready and working that is) | 11:24 |
| taaem | but maybe it is better to get sandboxing and security right and then add payments | 11:25 |
| tortoisedoc | of course there's a legal side to it as well | 11:25 |
| tortoisedoc | speaking about sandboxing | 11:25 |
| tortoisedoc | has anyone else noticed the changes in fs layout on the jollac? | 11:26 |
| tortoisedoc | (and directory structure)= | 11:26 |
| taaem | i don't have normal jolla so i have no idea if it changed | 11:26 |
| tortoisedoc | taaem : which version of sfos? I do not know if it's device-dependent or release-dependent... | 11:27 |
| taaem | ? I only have a Jolla C running 2.0.2.4x | 11:27 |
| kimmoli | tortoisedoc: which directories particulary? ~/? | 11:28 |
| tortoisedoc | it appears there are some differences between jollac and jolla one | 11:28 |
| tortoisedoc | ~/ seems to be chrooted | 11:28 |
| tortoisedoc | or is not in /home/nemo at least | 11:28 |
| taaem | mmh i can't get translations to work... in my sailfish app | 11:30 |
| tortoisedoc | the for example /d | 11:30 |
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| taaem | for qsTri should just edit the the harbour-name-lang.ts right? just put the translation into the xml | 11:31 |
| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: you can check the target packages here: https://build.merproject.org/project/show/mer-core:armv7hl:devel | 11:32 |
| r0kk3rz | vs https://build.merproject.org/project/show/mer-core:armv7hl:release | 11:32 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : thanks | 11:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : aah | 11:34 |
| * tortoisedoc double palmface | 11:35 | |
| tortoisedoc | /opt/alien/data mounts sailfish home | 11:35 |
| tortoisedoc | my bad :p | 11:35 |
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| tortoisedoc | woohooo | 11:48 |
| tortoisedoc | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/757530834824036359 | 11:48 |
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| kimmoli | so now its "official" | 11:52 |
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| kengu | http://www.ebay.in/itm/Intex-Aqua-Fish-4G-LTE-with-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-5-2GB-RAM-16-GB-8MP-/282098603976 | 11:57 |
| taaem | http://www.amazon.in/product-reviews/B01IHFLXB4/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_summary?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=helpful quite positive | 12:00 |
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