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| TheRealJohnGalt | Does anyone have a screen recording solution for sailfish? | 01:16 |
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| kimmoli | TheRealJohnGalt: soon? https://github.com/skvark/SailCast/issues/5 - but now you can record with VLC | 05:07 |
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| TheRealJohnGalt | kimmoli: awesome, ty | 06:45 |
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| locusf | hmm | 07:16 |
| locusf | I wonder about the idea to grab fb directly | 07:16 |
| locusf | I suppose its faster than just using lipstick api | 07:16 |
| kimmoli | afaik that uses fb | 07:20 |
| locusf | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/lipstick/blob/master/src/compositor/lipstickrecorder.cpp#L88 | 07:25 |
| kimmoli | that needs privileges | 07:31 |
| locusf | yeah | 07:31 |
| locusf | dunno if the dbus needs any | 07:34 |
| locusf | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/lipstick/blob/master/protocol/lipstick-recorder.xml | 07:35 |
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| kimmoli | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-recorder | 07:58 |
| kimmoli | ..building | 07:58 |
| kimmoli | or not. [ 52s] Project ERROR: wayland-client development package not found | 07:59 |
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| locusf | that one saves individual bitmaps | 08:28 |
| kimmoli | i.e. screenshot? | 08:28 |
| locusf | shouldn't be too hard to record and encode to a video | 08:28 |
| locusf | yeah | 08:28 |
| kimmoli | depends if it is as slow per frame as the screenshot | 08:28 |
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| kimmoli | it seems to save frame when screen changes | 08:53 |
| kimmoli | 6MB each :) | 09:00 |
| locusf | woah | 09:11 |
| locusf | jolla c? | 09:11 |
| kimmoli | onyx. now i have 50+ MB of animated gif | 09:13 |
| kimmoli | http://imgur.com/a/oNDb0 | 09:17 |
| kimmoli | heh | 09:17 |
| kimmoli | TheRealJohnGalt: ^ | 09:20 |
| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, what ? | 09:20 |
| dr_gogeta86 | kimmoli, usefull for demos and bug tracking | 09:20 |
| locusf | dr_gogeta86: ? | 09:21 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, got broken backlog ... | 09:22 |
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| kimmoli | locusf: merged those 2 | 11:24 |
| kimmoli | so now i have streaming lipstick-recorder | 11:25 |
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| kimmoli | skvark: https://github.com/kimmoli/lipstick-recorder/tree/test | 11:54 |
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| locusf | kimmoli: ok cool | 12:05 |
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| kimmoli | works on onyx, jollac, sbj | 12:10 |
| kimmoli | pretty snappy on sbj screen resolution | 12:11 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | so sailcast doesn't use fb thanks your hack ? | 12:26 |
| kimmoli | sailcast uses fb | 12:27 |
| kimmoli | lipstick-recorder does use that lipstick api | 12:27 |
| kimmoli | i just glued streaming part from sailcast to lipstick-recorder | 12:28 |
| coderus | Notes sql backup is encrypted or i'm stupido? | 12:28 |
| kimmoli | are those mutually exclusive? | 12:29 |
| kimmoli | goes to make some f00d | 12:29 |
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| coderus | ah, notes.sql is some kind of archive | 12:31 |
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| coderus | nevermind, just copied it from local | 12:31 |
| kimmoli | isnt that notes for backups? | 12:33 |
| kimmoli | or was those as commit msgs? | 12:33 |
| kimmoli | nope | 12:33 |
| locusf | next step: upnp streaming | 12:34 |
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| locusf | I wonder if its faster to save as uncompressed to memory and the lz compress it | 12:37 |
| locusf | on socket send that is | 12:39 |
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| locusf | kimmoli: forwarded to kido for screencasts of asteroidos | 12:44 |
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| kido | :) | 12:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, isn't the case to create a desktop sharing services for nemo | 12:48 |
| dr_gogeta86 | like android does | 12:48 |
| dr_gogeta86 | that api is used also by teamviewer | 12:49 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | are just ideas .. | 12:50 |
| locusf | sure | 12:51 |
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| kimmoli | now i need suitable video encoder for gstreamer | 12:53 |
| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: now throw the video stream into a VR scene positioned where the real life device is | 12:55 |
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| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: heh | 12:57 |
| kimmoli | now i can regenerate those jpgs from mjpg "stream" with multifilesink. circle is closed | 12:58 |
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| tadzik | hmm, arethe builtin language dictionaries accessible somehow? | 13:13 |
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| kimmoli | https://youtu.be/BQiS5Zfkj14 | 13:44 |
| ghosalmartin | kimmoli: nice :D | 13:48 |
| kimmoli | battery-hungry thing :) | 13:50 |
| ghosalmartin | bet it is, is that why the frame rate is limited? | 13:56 |
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| ghosalmartin | ahhh libhybris finally builds | 13:58 |
| caitlin | Hello, with apologies I'm a python developer and jolla owner. I'm trying to write my first app /o\ not in (python). The code i've stolen does two things i want to do, but not at the same time and I am accepting I am too stupid to guess how to make it work. What would be a sensible place to start learning QML properly? | 13:58 |
| caitlin | I've got a working IDE and i can build things and run them in the emulator and so forth | 13:58 |
| M4rtinK | why not in Python ? :) | 13:59 |
| M4rtinK | you can use Python on Sailfish OS just fine & multiple apps (modRana, GPodder, Poor Maps, etc.) are doing just that :) | 13:59 |
| M4rtinK | Python apps are also accepted to the Jolla Store | 14:00 |
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| caitlin | mainly because what i've read suggests i need qml to bootstrap the handoff to python, i read a few warnings about locking the UI waiting for things and I want to do GPS stuff, so i expect i want to be a bit closer to the hardware apis, and learning new things is FUN \o/ | 14:01 |
| kimmoli | that's the spirit :P | 14:01 |
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| M4rtinK | caitlin: locking the UI does not happen, if done properly | 14:02 |
| M4rtinK | caitlin: PyOtherSide (the Python<->QML bindings/bridge) provides asynchronous calls for everything | 14:03 |
| M4rtinK | so your QML and Python code can be totally asynchronous | 14:03 |
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| M4rtinK | also, you indeed start QML first and then init & call Python code as needed | 14:04 |
| M4rtinK | for more: https://github.com/thp/pyotherside/tree/master/examples | 14:04 |
| caitlin | cheers | 14:04 |
| M4rtinK | also as you application is basically a QML app with a Python QML plugin | 14:05 |
| M4rtinK | you can even easily combine it with c++ code if needed | 14:05 |
| M4rtinK | just make it also to a C++ plugin :) | 14:05 |
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| M4rtinK | anyway, have to go now - will reply to any questions (if any) once back :) | 14:07 |
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| vam52 | Hello, i've read that people got email on JollaC shipping or something, does anybody haven't received the email, like me? | 15:03 |
| vam52 | Eh, I mean people ordred Jolla C | 15:04 |
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| caitlin | How does one install python modules into the sailfishos? particularly without needing the user to do it themselves? | 15:58 |
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| LarstiQ | caitlin: depends a bit on what you're after | 16:06 |
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| maheart | caitlin, the way I'd do it, so I'm not sure if it's the best way: as part of your RPM, perhaps as part of %post, have it call a shell script (which you wrote) that sets up virtualenv, and pip installs all your requirements. | 16:18 |
| urjaman | that wont pass harbour | 16:19 |
| maheart | yes, sorry, I really should have mentioned that :) | 16:19 |
| LarstiQ | getting the modules into mer might work, but takes time | 16:21 |
| maheart | The good new is SailfishOS already ships with a good variety of C libraries, which are usually used by Python modules (e.g. libxml, libpng, etc). Setup a virtualenv, build the modules against these dependencies, and then ship your package + virtualenv. Maybe someone here can confirm that this will pass Harbor requirements | 16:25 |
| maheart | s/new/news/ | 16:25 |
| maheart | sorry if I'm making little sense, it's 2:30AM here in Aus :) I should probably go to bed. best of luck | 16:26 |
| caitlin | i'm trying to write to mqtt | 16:27 |
| caitlin | dead simple push a json into a port supposedly | 16:27 |
| caitlin | any ideas? happy in cpp land | 16:27 |
| maheart | you could def do it in Python. If the port is just a TCP port, you can easily connect to it in python, and Python also ships with a module for encoding/decoding json. But I'm a huge fan of Python, and I dislike C++ :P~ | 16:28 |
| caitlin | sadly it seems not to be | 16:30 |
| caitlin | the mqtt people are not forthcoming with how anything implemented, it doesn't speak http that's for certain | 16:31 |
| * caitlin wanders off to see what netcat does | 16:31 | |
| caitlin | the only successful 'posts' i've made to it are with mosquitto_pub | 16:32 |
| caitlin | that chucks a json message into a 'topic' but how the topics work in the datastructure isn't given up easily | 16:32 |
| caitlin | i miss http, it was really rather good | 16:32 |
| maheart | :) | 16:32 |
| maheart | anyway, good luck, and goodnight | 16:33 |
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| kimmoli | caitlin: about mqtt, my not so well working test ages ago https://github.com/kimmoli/mqtt-test | 16:59 |
| caitlin | thanks *very* much | 17:02 |
| caitlin | what is import mqtt.test.Mqtt 1.0 ? | 17:02 |
| caitlin | the 'test' bit confuses me | 17:03 |
| kimmoli | it is the type registered here https://github.com/kimmoli/mqtt-test/blob/master/src/mqtt-test.cpp#L30 | 17:03 |
| kimmoli | just a name | 17:03 |
| caitlin | awesome, i just found that | 17:03 |
| caitlin | excellent. Thanks very much indeed, I think this will be a great help | 17:04 |
| kimmoli | it will expose the Mqtt class to QML side, and you can call e.g. these https://github.com/kimmoli/mqtt-test/blob/master/src/mqtt.h#L32 from QML | 17:04 |
| r0kk3rz | caitlin: most of our mqtt stuff has been done with python libraries i think | 17:04 |
| caitlin | i'm nervous of python because i don't know how to work the environment yet | 17:13 |
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| r0kk3rz | caitlin: the environment can be tricky, it depends if you want your app on the store or not | 17:15 |
| r0kk3rz | thats a big limitation | 17:16 |
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| r0kk3rz | we run a community store with a lot less restrictions | 17:16 |
| caitlin | i *might*... why rule it out? | 17:16 |
| M4rtinK | caitlin: if it is pure Python | 17:19 |
| M4rtinK | just bundle it with your app | 17:20 |
| M4rtinK | C extensions might be more tricky, but should also be doable (but I have no experience with that) | 17:20 |
| M4rtinK | also if you only target OpenRepos | 17:21 |
| M4rtinK | you can have multiple packages in your repository | 17:21 |
| M4rtinK | and make you main application package depend on them | 17:21 |
| M4rtinK | and these packages could hold your Python (or any other) dependencies | 17:22 |
| r0kk3rz | caitlin: why rule it out? because frankly it makes life a lot easier | 17:22 |
| M4rtinK | sadly, the store only accepts a single package, so everything needs to be bundled in it | 17:22 |
| skvark | kimmoli: how's the fps on that lipstick-recorder? | 17:25 |
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| cvp | O/ | 17:27 |
| urjaman | skvark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQiS5Zfkj14 | 17:27 |
| skvark | seems pretty smooth | 17:29 |
| cvp | coderus: do you have a version from aliendalvik superuser + binary for i486? | 17:29 |
| coderus | cvp: no | 17:29 |
| cvp | :/ | 17:29 |
| urjaman | it's funny how there were people noting on how low-fps that was | 17:30 |
| coderus | i flashed android on my tablet :) | 17:30 |
| cvp | oh really? dont like sfos on tablet ? | 17:31 |
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| kimmoli | skvark: that is 10fps | 17:35 |
| coderus | i didnt find sfos usable on tablet. gestures are for one-handed usage | 17:35 |
| cvp | yes a bit true :) - is it possible to extract the armv7hl.rpm and copy into the right folder in tablet or is tis doenst work? | 17:37 |
| kimmoli | skvark: it updates a frame when something happens on screen, so it is "dynamic", container has 10fps as per gst pipeline | 17:38 |
| coderus | cvp: i've no idea what you mean :) | 17:38 |
| cvp | sry, my english is maybe not so goo as i think ^^ - can i extract the aliendalvik superuser + bin and copy it via ftp into the tablet | 17:39 |
| cvp | *good | 17:39 |
| coderus | i cant help with that | 17:40 |
| cvp | ok :/ | 17:40 |
| cvp | oh ok i see the comment on openrepos | 17:42 |
| coderus | tell me why you want root in aliendalvik? | 17:42 |
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| cvp | want install the app dji go or litchi, playstore give me the Info that my device is not unsupported. i want try try with the app "Market Helper" to change my device id to get it work....so my hope :) | 17:45 |
| coderus | why not just download apk from internetz? | 17:45 |
| cvp | i try this... installation is not working. | 17:45 |
| coderus | what you mean? | 17:46 |
| cvp | moment, i try again to get the Info what i get if i try to install the app | 17:46 |
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| cvp | get the message: X App not Installed | 17:49 |
| urjaman | you're not making much sense ... | 17:51 |
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| coderus | cvp: Litchi: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/Litchi.ver.3.6.3.build.872.apk DJI Go: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/DJI%20GO_v2.8.1_apkpure.com.apk | 17:53 |
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| skvark | kimmoli: ok | 17:55 |
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| cvp | coderus: thanks.... DJI Go: ...installing + X App not Installed ... litchi is installed. need to buy licens, ok this is a other problem. | 18:03 |
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| cvp | ok i copy into /opt/alien/data/app but app dont starting. maybe its not compatible with android 4.4 or what ever. | 18:14 |
| coderus | flash android and it will work 100% :) | 18:15 |
| cvp | lol | 18:15 |
| coderus | really. if you need some cool android apps then prefer using android device. | 18:16 |
| cvp | yes, if dual boot is possible... but it isnt | 18:16 |
| coderus | if there are kernel and other sources to build cool stuff for tablet... but. android firmware is full treasure :) | 18:17 |
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| caitlin | my mersdk host won't do some magic spells because it doesn't have a connman | 19:41 |
| caitlin | yum has no repos | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | we use zypper | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | yum is ancient | 19:42 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, how do you see those "newcomers" like flatpak ( xdg based ) and snappy ? Too much .app things ? | 19:55 |
| dr_gogeta86 | or people too lazy to write a decent .deb or .rpm ? | 19:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | dr_gogeta86: flatpak and snappy solves different problems to deb/rpm | 20:03 |
| r0kk3rz | they arent really comparable or competing with each other | 20:03 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | we live in an era where even firefox on linux lacks features ... | 20:05 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and people point to packaging | 20:06 |
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| caitlin | i have no idea how .h or .so files work in sailfishland | 21:16 |
| caitlin | i couldn;t get a dep installed so i ripped the .h file out of an rpm | 21:16 |
| caitlin | but include "thingy.h" doesn't seem to actually include the stuff that's really expected | 21:17 |
| r0kk3rz | what dep? | 21:19 |
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| caitlin | mosquitto.h | 21:22 |
| caitlin | if i stick the file in the src directory with the other files that reference it, and change the angle brackets to quotes then it imports it but the compiler explodes not being able to find the things in it | 21:23 |
| caitlin | undefined reference to `mosquitto_connect' | 21:23 |
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| r0kk3rz | it needs to find the .so file as well | 21:24 |
| r0kk3rz | did you try the instructions here: https://github.com/kimmoli/mqtt-test ?? | 21:25 |
| caitlin | I did | 21:25 |
| caitlin | no happiness resulted | 21:26 |
| caitlin | libmosq_EXPORT int mosquitto_connect(struct mosquitto *mosq, const char *host, int port, int keepalive); | 21:26 |
| caitlin | that's the line in the .h | 21:26 |
| caitlin | how does one import the .so? | 21:26 |
| caitlin | I have this | 21:26 |
| caitlin | I might be compiling using the wrong fluff, but /opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -lmosquitto | 21:29 |
| caitlin | i note that has i486 in it, not arm | 21:29 |
| r0kk3rz | are you building for the emulator? | 21:30 |
| r0kk3rz | because that is x86, not arm | 21:30 |
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| caitlin | I am | 21:31 |
| caitlin | do i need to usb in my jolla or something? | 21:31 |
| caitlin | sorry, i'm *this* new. I've never written things for phones and have only done limited cross compiling before | 21:31 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats cool, you can set it up over wifi if you want | 21:34 |
| r0kk3rz | or using usb developer mode | 21:34 |
| caitlin | i usbed and dev moded, but the ide isn't noticing the phone | 21:36 |
| caitlin | could you point me at the buttons? sorry to be so lame | 21:37 |
| r0kk3rz | https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Application_SDK_Your_First_App#Create_a_Connection_to_Mer_Hardware_Device | 21:37 |
| caitlin | you star, thanks | 21:38 |
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| caitlin | cool, i've proven that point by building and installing a junk demo | 21:54 |
| caitlin | back to my dependency lols :/ the somewhat oblique: Error: nothing provides libmosquitto.so.1 needed by mqtt-test-0.1-3.armv7hl | 21:54 |
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| r0kk3rz | try this https://wiki.qt.io/How_to_create_a_library_with_Qt_and_use_it_in_an_application#Linking_your_application_against_the_shared_library | 21:58 |
| caitlin | yeh, there's a LIBS += -lmosquitto | 21:59 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah you'll need to give it a path | 22:02 |
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| caitlin | thankyou all for your help and advice today. I feel like I've made a lot of progress. I'll make more. Till later, I need to sleep. | 22:20 |
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