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| kimmoli | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSLaliD8Mq4 | 07:00 |
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| phlixi | and there are 3 more new videos on the channel, thanks for pointing out kimmoli :-) | 07:29 |
| kimmoli | betterish link then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7wR_FrSA8s&index=1&list=PLQgR2jhO_J0yhd_1fCz-SN5xmY4sjeB-l | 07:32 |
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| Armadillo | yay JollaC shipping soon(TM) :D | 07:42 |
| Bysmyyr | uuh | 07:43 |
| Armadillo | check your mails guys and girls ;) | 07:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | Yay(TM) | 07:47 |
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| Thaodan | Armadillo: it seems that 2.0.2 is delayed i think their it's the reason for this soon | 07:51 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont see why they should delay because of that | 07:55 |
| kimmoli | i havent got email... ;( | 07:56 |
| kimmoli | oh wait, i have my JollaC already | 07:56 |
| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: heh :) | 07:56 |
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| Armadillo | that wa sunfair! :D | 07:56 |
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| Bysmyyr | kimmoli: I got email and I have jollac | 07:57 |
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| Armadillo | has someone tested the dual sim functionality? | 07:58 |
| zebbiz_pi | kimmoli: How is the JollaC compared to regular Jolla? | 07:59 |
| LarstiQ | Armadillo: not sure what answer you expect, yes? | 07:59 |
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| Armadillo | LarstiQ well it's hard to describe, I'm interested in how I can change which sim is currently active, for example based on ambiences, time based, only manually,... | 08:00 |
| kimmoli | zebbiz_pi: bigger, more plastic | 08:01 |
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| Thaodan | i hope 2.02 Will be out soon | 08:06 |
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| zebbiz_pi | Armadillo: I recognize you from somewhere... | 08:07 |
| zebbiz_pi | Did you use to hang out in #learnprogramming ? | 08:08 |
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| Armadillo | zebbiz_pi probably from tasklist comments ;) | 08:08 |
| Armadillo | and no have never been in #learnprogramming :) | 08:09 |
| zebbiz_pi | I don't even know what that means | 08:09 |
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| Armadillo | I'm the developer of the tasklist app, I thought I've seen comments form you in the store, but not sure :) | 08:12 |
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| Armadillo | and store currently doesn't load contents so I can't have a look at that | 08:12 |
| kimmoli | depends where you live? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Nine-banded_Armadillo.jpg/1280px-Nine-banded_Armadillo.jpg :P | 08:13 |
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| Armadillo | haha | 08:13 |
| zebbiz_pi | hehe | 08:14 |
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| Armadillo | seems a bit different than in front of the mirror this morning ;) | 08:14 |
| zebbiz_pi | Armadillo: Nah, must confuse you for someone else, I've never used tasklist | 08:15 |
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| aimless | Hi, I'm trying to build the opencv library for SFOS. For that I connected to the mer VM and wanna compile it there. But I need to define the path of the Qt5CoreConfig.cmake file. Does anybody know where it lies on the VM? | 08:30 |
| aimless | If I use the one from the Windows QtCreator installation, I get an error as the VM can't execute an .exe binary. | 08:31 |
| aimless | Btw, I work on a Windows Machine and would like to compile the opencv lib for a SFOS app. | 08:32 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:10 |
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| sledges | PSA: https://together.jolla.com/question/137367/official-announcement-adding-new-community-languages-estonian-lithuanian-serbian-tartar-and-turkish/ | 10:36 |
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| urjaman | sounds cool based on url :) | 10:38 |
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| aimless | In order to compile the opencv for Qt in mersdk VM, it needs the cmake files of Qt5Gui, Qt5Widget, Qt5Test... Does anybody know where this files are stored within the mersdk or how I can install it? | 11:32 |
| r0kk3rz | aimless: QtGui and QT5Widget might be problems | 11:37 |
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| aimless | r0kk3rz: the first one, Qt5Core is (to my astonishment) already installed. But as you wrote, the Qt5Gui (as far for now) isn't installed. But how can I install it manually? | 11:53 |
| r0kk3rz | aimless: nothing Qt would work without Qt5Core :) | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | aimless: Qt5Gui isnt built anywhere, so you will have to build yourself | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | same with widgets | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | but SFOS doesnt use the QT Widgets stuff at all, so nobody knows if it will work | 11:55 |
| aimless | ok, first I have to build it by myself, then install before I can compile opencv? | 11:55 |
| r0kk3rz | aimless: i would be tempted to find what in opencv needs those things, and not build them | 11:56 |
| r0kk3rz | otherwise yes, you will need to build+install those two things | 11:56 |
| aimless | it is required as soon as I wanna build the opencv for Qt... | 11:57 |
| aimless | but I gonna check it. | 11:57 |
| r0kk3rz | i expect it will be widget components that you could use, which wont be useful to you on sailfish | 11:57 |
| r0kk3rz | you will need QML components instead | 11:57 |
| r0kk3rz | aimless: on second thought, perhaps those two things are available somewhere | 12:05 |
| r0kk3rz | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:nielnielsen/opencv | 12:05 |
| r0kk3rz | that builds and has them as dependencies | 12:05 |
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| aimless | r0kk3rz: ok, seems to be so. But a totally other question: Should it not be possible to build opencv with the g++ (within a MS Win environment) that then can be used for a SFOS app in Qt? | 12:10 |
| aimless | Is it necessary to build the opencv within the mersdk VM? | 12:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | aimless: you'll need to be cross compiling it remember, for ARM | 12:21 |
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| swex_ | hi there | 12:26 |
| swex_ | I'm trying to debug application on device, but QtCreator saying The GDB process terminated unexpectedly (exit code 127). | 12:27 |
| swex_ | is I look at ps uax|grep gdbserver I see that gdbserver running | 12:27 |
| swex_ | where is the problem? | 12:27 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | swex_: does your device have gdbserver installed ? | 12:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (out of curiosity ?) | 12:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah it seems | 12:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | interesting | 12:47 |
| swex_ | SfietKonstantinW: yes, I even see "Debugging starts | 12:48 |
| swex_ | Listening on port 10000" in application output in qtcreator | 12:48 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hum | 12:48 |
| SfietKonstantinW | weired | 12:48 |
| swex_ | SfietKonstantinW: yep.. | 12:48 |
| swex_ | also binary become stripped for some reason | 12:48 |
| swex_ | here is file output: | 12:49 |
| swex_ | test: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=0x8511636d6bea250f7bf3c4badce1f8ca52ba1e19, stripped | 12:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | swex_: are you building with debug mode ? | 12:49 |
| swex_ | yes. | 12:49 |
| swex_ | effective qmake call: | 12:50 |
| swex_ | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/386283/46720463/ | 12:50 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hum ... | 12:52 |
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| swex_ | SfietKonstantinW: sorry I found a problem | 12:55 |
| swex_ | gdb-armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 12:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :D | 12:56 |
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| swex_ | why I cant install gdbserver on device? | 15:02 |
| swex_ | pkcon answers: Command failed: This tool could not find any available package: could not find gdb-gdbserver | 15:02 |
| Thaodan | wrong name? | 15:03 |
| swex_ | no, that is right name | 15:03 |
| Thaodan | trry to search first | 15:03 |
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| Thaodan | try with zypper? | 15:03 |
| swex_ | how to search? | 15:03 |
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| Thaodan | pkcon search name | 15:04 |
| Thaodan | try reading the man page of pkcon | 15:05 |
| swex_ | invalid search type | 15:05 |
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| Hartzi | https://twitter.com/Fairphone/status/748156649404248064 | 15:14 |
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| Thaodan | sounds like there's maybe an update on their side and not just a sentence without any infos | 15:18 |
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| leszek | Thaodan: it is actually a poll | 15:21 |
| leszek | needs a bit of loading though | 15:21 |
| Thaodan | but there were already infos about a partnership with Jolla | 15:21 |
| Thaodan | they advise it very often on Twitter that you can install sfos on their decide | 15:22 |
| Thaodan | device | 15:22 |
| Thaodan | also there was already a poll | 15:23 |
| leszek | The poll was more general I think about alternative OSs | 15:23 |
| Venemo | swex_: because there is no package with that name, at least not in any repo you have | 15:23 |
| leszek | this one is specific to SailfishOS 2.0 | 15:23 |
| Venemo | swex_: I imagine that dev tools like gdb server are in a different repo | 15:23 |
| Venemo | swex_: anyway, try 'pkcon refresh' and 'pkcon search name gdb' | 15:24 |
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| Thaodan | I think they have most of the work done and will push the port when 2.0.2 is official released | 15:25 |
| Thaodan | leszek: yes what you would pay for sfos | 15:25 |
| leszek | You mean what would I pay for Fairphone 2 with SailfishOS ? | 15:27 |
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| Thaodan_ | leszek: yes | 15:36 |
| leszek | Just looking at the specs it looks like a mere ~300€ phone | 15:36 |
| leszek | but for the easy to replace stuff and modules they want to release I would even pay 400€ | 15:37 |
| leszek | knowing that the camera is crappy and the power supply (battery) a little bit small | 15:37 |
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| leszek | But I know that it is still sold für above 500€ still. So I am not so sure if I myself get one. Only thing that would convince me to pay so much would be an updated better camera module | 15:38 |
| leszek | *for | 15:38 |
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| leszek | or if they lower the price | 15:39 |
| Venemo | oh well | 15:39 |
| Venemo | the fairphone just looks like yet another crappy android | 15:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | leszek: you pay a lot for repairability | 15:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | it is a completely bespoke device after all | 15:41 |
| leszek | yeah I know about this repairibility | 15:43 |
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| leszek | though still above 500€ is too much for my taste currently | 15:44 |
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| r0kk3rz | yes this is the problem with 'fair' devices, everyone wants cheap instead | 15:45 |
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| leszek | r0kk3rz: thats not the point. I would pay more for hardware that is current | 16:05 |
| leszek | it is like the discussion of a totally free device like neo900 project and openmoko. (which I believe never was 100% free but thats another point here). If the hardware itself is outdated and unusable for todays standards (like try browsing the web with some tabs open on 512 MB and do multitasking). Have a crappy camera that even a featurephone nowadays can easily finish off. Then the whole idea to me is pointless | 16:08 |
| leszek | To be clear here this isn't completely the case for the fairphone 2 | 16:08 |
| leszek | but still it isn't their first phone. They proved already that it is possible to create a "fair phone". Now its time to convince people | 16:10 |
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| urjaman | re: Neo900.... 1GB of RAM | 16:12 |
| urjaman | not that it's great or anything, but just saying | 16:12 |
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| leszek | urjaman: yeah was thinking about their openmoko devices (or one of their boards then) | 16:25 |
| leszek | openmoko had in fact less ram | 16:25 |
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| Feathers_McGraw | can anyone help me with a compilation problem? I have gstreamer-0.10-devel and gstreamer-1.0-devel installed in the SDK (both contain gst/gstelement.h) and using "PkgConfigBR gstreamer-1.0 >= 1.4.5" or "PkgConfigBR gstreamer-0.10 >= 0.10.36" i get an error "fatal error: gst/gstelement.h: No such file or directory" | 19:34 |
| Feathers_McGraw | i think the .pc files are found (if I put nonsense in the PkgConfigBR: section I get a different error like "pkgconfig(foo) is needed by..." | 19:36 |
| kimmoli | add gst....devel ? | 19:36 |
| Feathers_McGraw | it's installed :( | 19:37 |
| Feathers_McGraw | the make file doesn't have the include path that's in the gstreamer .pc files | 19:38 |
| Feathers_McGraw | /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gstreamer-1.0.pc has includedir=/usr/include/gstreamer-1.0 and Cflags: -I${includedir} | 19:38 |
| kimmoli | pkgconfigbr smells yaml. try to require some non-dev pkg too? | 19:39 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/pedometer/commit/087142619b39a6e83174d04dacd2c6c335df099d | 19:39 |
| kimmoli | this i needed for similar error but different pkg | 19:39 |
| Feathers_McGraw | /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gstreamer-0.10.pc has includedir=/usr/include/gstreamer-0.10 and Cflags: -I${includedir} | 19:39 |
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| Feathers_McGraw | kimmo, the .spec file generated from yaml has BuildRequires: pkgconfig(gstreamer-1.0) >= 1.4.5 | 19:41 |
| Feathers_McGraw | ooh, the change in the .pro file did it | 19:43 |
| Feathers_McGraw | I had "PKGCONFIGBR += gstreamer-1.0", changed it to "PKGCONFIG += gstreamer-1.0" | 19:43 |
| kimmoli | blame yaml... | 19:44 |
| * kimmoli uses only spec | 19:44 | |
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| Feathers_McGraw | thanks for your help with that, I spent about 2 days trying to figure that out :@ | 19:46 |
| Feathers_McGraw | should have asked sooner | 19:46 |
| Feathers_McGraw | ;) | 19:46 |
| Feathers_McGraw | unrelated question, do you know why the sample cpp file for sailfish projects has #include <QtQuick> #ifdef'd out so it's only included if the app is built in debug mode? | 19:48 |
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| kimmoli | i have removed those lines | 19:49 |
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| Feathers_McGraw | i did in my apps too but I keep seeing it everywhere | 19:50 |
| kimmoli | i dont build debug so, just arm releases typically | 19:50 |
| Feathers_McGraw | if you want to use qmlRegisterType then you need QtQuick included, so it seems strange to only include it in debug mode since most apps seem to have a c++ backend | 19:51 |
| Feathers_McGraw | me too | 19:51 |
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| Feathers_McGraw | might be a dumb question, but is the only difference that in release mode the debugging symbols are stripped from the binary? | 19:52 |
| kimmoli | afaiu | 19:52 |
| Feathers_McGraw | ok thanks | 19:53 |
| Feathers_McGraw | and you need those if you're going to valgrind an app or something like that right? | 19:53 |
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| kimmoli | afail qtc has debugger that can talk with gdb | 19:54 |
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| Feathers_McGraw | is it "bad" to deploy code with debugging symbols? presumably people take them out for a reason | 19:55 |
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