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| Ingvix | I don't really see how is it confusing if one doesn't want ringer volume determined in their ambience. None of the other options seem to have this sort of default behavior | 05:11 |
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| sledges | good morning! https://together.jolla.com/question/136373/official-annoucement-starting-community-translation-round-for-then-next-sailfish-os-update/ | 05:52 |
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| ln- | how do you ensure some level of quality for translations? | 06:01 |
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| kimmoli | jahonen checks all? | 06:07 |
| kimmoli | pootle died | 06:07 |
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| Ingvix | poor pootle | 08:20 |
| pketo | should be back up now | 08:25 |
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| pketo | I'll take that back, pootle has some issues | 09:02 |
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| sledges | ln-: iterative process, it will get better with each update (more eyes->more hands), on TJC we had loads of suggestion in past years on how to make translations better, now just all became easier | 09:41 |
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| ln- | sledges: that only works if there's skill involved besides enthusiasm :/ | 09:45 |
| sledges | ln-: if people went as far as TJC to contribute a better wording, pootle makes it piece of cake | 09:46 |
| sledges | it's #peoplepowered | 09:46 |
| sledges | not #grammarpolicepowered | 09:46 |
| sledges | :) | 09:46 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure if jolla had the budget to employ professional translators for every language they would do that | 09:47 |
| r0kk3rz | but without that, im sure they community can manage just fine | 09:47 |
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| sledges | what's the point of professional service when it's just 10 odd eyes on the price with them ;) | 09:51 |
| sledges | end up paying for something community tries to improve thereafter | 09:51 |
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| sledges | how are other oss projects localised? | 09:52 |
| sledges | ;) | 09:52 |
| r0kk3rz | magical FOSS Faeries of course | 09:53 |
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| r0kk3rz | sledges: aha you solved the transifex problem then, good stuff :) | 09:57 |
| sledges | r0kk3rz: "solved" :P need to write a script for that still, we're using too old pootle | 09:57 |
| sledges | but show me a big system which been used for years and been properly maintained with upstream ;) | 09:58 |
| r0kk3rz | heh | 09:59 |
| r0kk3rz | more work for lbt | 09:59 |
| sledges | nah, python wtf | 10:00 |
| sledges | :D | 10:00 |
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| FloR707 | HI | 10:03 |
| FloR707 | I just tried to get hands on the community phone but I cannot select a country for shipping =( | 10:04 |
| sledges | pootle has just been firefought by pketo \o/ | 10:05 |
| sledges | FloR707: which country? i can see clearly the list | 10:06 |
| FloR707 | Me to but it only contains Finland | 10:06 |
| sledges | change to finland at the bottom | 10:06 |
| sledges | from "European Union" | 10:06 |
| sledges | of the page | 10:06 |
| pketo | the pootle search is still broken, unless you use "exact match" | 10:06 |
| lbt | r0kk3rz: nooooh | 10:06 |
| FloR707 | Okay. Thanks | 10:06 |
| FloR707 | Can I use Paytrail without beeing in Finland? I do not have a PayPal account. | 10:08 |
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| sledges | pketo: or narrow down to a project/language | 10:09 |
| pketo | sledges: hmm... maybe someone could go through each project and try the search, and report where it hangs ;) | 10:11 |
| pketo | FloR707: I'm not sure, but there should be credit card payment option | 10:12 |
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| sledges | pketo: it hangs only on global search (all langs+all projs) | 10:12 |
| sledges | at least for me :) | 10:13 |
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| kimmoli | sledges: me too | 10:34 |
| useretail | Hi, I see that "The Sailfish Community Device Program is fully booked". Does that mean that no more devices are available? | 10:39 |
| useretail | in 30 minutes? | 10:40 |
| useretail | how's that possible? | 10:40 |
| Skooz | Gone in about 15 minutes. | 10:40 |
| useretail | that's bullshit | 10:41 |
| useretail | that program sucks then | 10:41 |
| r0kk3rz | it was a fairly tiny second round | 10:42 |
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| useretail | when i received the first message in the morning i was on the road, but when i come home i can only see that no more devices left | 10:44 |
| useretail | that system really sucks | 10:44 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah its a shame, but first come first serve | 10:45 |
| useretail | i agree, but first they asked for e-mail address, and then sent the e-mail only FOUR hours before | 10:46 |
| lbt | it was only mentioned on the devel mailing list - it's hard to be more focused to the real community than that. If it had been announced earlier it would have gone to twitter and media etc etc. It's a balance | 10:46 |
| lbt | sorry useretail ... but the email mentioned that the store has glitches and some orders will need to be cancelled. So keep an eye on it and you *might* get one. No idea when that will happen though. | 10:47 |
| FloR707 | They only have a few. Probably they did not want to attract too much attention ;-) | 10:48 |
| FloR707 | I messed up my order by selecting Paytrail. Looks like I cannot undo this. | 10:48 |
| useretail | but a balance of what? i was on that list. couldn't they just reserve a phone? | 10:48 |
| LarstiQ | useretail: no | 10:49 |
| FloR707 | Is it possible that you are running in circles when you try to get an email address for customer service? | 10:49 |
| LarstiQ | useretail: there were as at least an order of magnitude more people on that list than there are devices. | 10:49 |
| LarstiQ | FloR707: https://jolla.com/support/ has a 'Visit our Help Center' | 10:50 |
| useretail | LarstiQ: why not? as r0kk3rz said first come first serve | 10:51 |
| useretail | maybe i was first on that list? | 10:51 |
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| useretail | that's sucks, really | 10:51 |
| FloR707 | Been there but this is only a loop. | 10:51 |
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| LarstiQ | FloR707: 'Submit a request' on the top? | 10:52 |
| LarstiQ | useretail: hmja, maybe | 10:52 |
| FloR707 | Ups. Blind today | 10:53 |
| useretail | LarstiQ: in Europe most people have a lunchbreak at noon CEST | 10:53 |
| useretail | Was there ability to order more one device? | 10:55 |
| useretail | *more than | 10:55 |
| FloR707 | No. | 10:58 |
| FloR707 | If you connected with two browsers and supplied different addresses, yes. | 10:58 |
| LarstiQ | it's a bit rude to take up more than 1 spot in Dev Program | 11:00 |
| useretail | ah, then very soon we will see these phones on ebay for ~300 EUR | 11:00 |
| useretail | (if not more) | 11:01 |
| King_DuckZ | hey guys, anybody had a look at my project recently? https://bitbucket.org/King_DuckZ/dindexer | 11:02 |
| FloR707 | I did not order two | 11:02 |
| FloR707 | Didn't manage to get one order right | 11:02 |
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| King_DuckZ | I'm keeping it updated, and I think it would be nice to make a SF version of it, so if anybody wants to do that, I'll help as much as I can | 11:03 |
| useretail | JOLLA OFFICIALS, if you read this please next time make a little bit different distribution system with *registered* developers and prepayment | 11:04 |
| useretail | because current obviously sucks | 11:04 |
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| JOLLA_OFFICIALS | useretail: ok | 11:05 |
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| JOLLA_OFFICIALS | Who is using my name | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:10 |
| JOLLA_OFFICIALS | Free SailfishOS devices for everyone! | 11:11 |
| useretail | King_DuckZ JOLLA_OFFICIALS what's the point being an asshole? | 11:11 |
| JOLLA_OFFICIALS | Flashable images for Jolla Phone! | 11:11 |
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| King_DuckZ | lol | 11:13 |
| King_DuckZ | useretail: j/k, take it easy ;) | 11:13 |
| useretail | King_DuckZ: not funny at all | 11:19 |
| useretail | especially if you have reserved your device | 11:20 |
| urjaman | i didnt have a chance, not because of the 15min time, but because cant put that money on something "hobby" right now | 11:21 |
| urjaman | and King_DuckZ was funny from my PoV | 11:21 |
| King_DuckZ | :D | 11:23 |
| r0kk3rz | useretail: unfortunately there were more people ready to click a button at a moments notice than available devices, its sucks but theres nothing that can be done | 11:24 |
| useretail | yeah | 11:28 |
| urjaman | i think the only other alternative would be registration and lottery | 11:28 |
| urjaman | just registration would just move the moment when people are ready to click a button around :P | 11:29 |
| urjaman | and still, you could be left without a device | 11:29 |
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| useretail | yeah. and if you don't pay in 24 hours then redraw | 11:31 |
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| Starvin | Hey you guys, has today's new batch of jolla C phones already sold out? | 11:43 |
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| urjaman | y | 11:43 |
| urjaman | (in 15min) | 11:43 |
| Starvin | wow. okay thanks | 11:44 |
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| hazza | Guys In which toolkit is th sailfishos-browser written in? | 11:53 |
| r0kk3rz | hazza: toolkit? you mean browser engine? its Gecko based | 11:54 |
| urjaman | https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser the engine is Gecko and i think the glue bits are Qt... | 11:54 |
| hazza | Nicee | 11:54 |
| hazza | So Js? | 11:55 |
| hazza | Spidermonkey or V8 or Webkit? | 11:55 |
| r0kk3rz | spidermonkey i would expect | 11:55 |
| hazza | It is really responsive and fast for a 1GB RAM phone | 11:56 |
| hazza | Is it possible to install addons ? | 11:56 |
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| r0kk3rz | hazza: https://together.jolla.com/question/901/proposal-add-support-for-mobile-firefox-add-ons-to-the-sailfish-browser/ | 12:02 |
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| pesasa | roviding the open source and free | 13:05 |
| pesasa | Ups | 13:05 |
| pesasa | Damn middle button. | 13:06 |
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| Ingvix | would it be best to make all rpm's only for sailfish phone as arm binary? Noarch if compatible with phone and tablet? | 13:31 |
| kimmoli | Ingvix: something like that. | 13:32 |
| Ingvix | okay | 13:32 |
| kimmoli | ported devices (and jollaC) have larger screens than jolla phone (sbj) | 13:32 |
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| kimmoli | so you should consider scalability even with only-for-phone apps | 13:33 |
| Ingvix | hmm, yes | 13:33 |
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| FloR707 | Hmm my order was canceled because I chose a wrong payment method and that cannot be corrected. =( | 14:14 |
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| Ingvix | I'm sorry for your loss | 14:19 |
| FloR707 | I have been told that I will get a new invitation. We'll see maybe I am still lucky. | 14:21 |
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| Ingvix | I'm not sure if the fading transparent black under the clock and indicators is by default or if I have some sort of patch doing it. Could someone check this? | 15:02 |
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| coderus | Ingvix: never seen that, maybe ambience? | 15:11 |
| Ingvix | coderus, no, I mean this sort of thing https://openrepos.net/content/alina/patch-status-bar-hint | 15:16 |
| Ingvix | but I don't have that patch so I'm assuming I got some sort of combined patch then | 15:16 |
| Ingvix | ah, case solved. It came with this https://openrepos.net/content/eugenio/patch-force-large-covers-application-switcher | 15:20 |
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| eugenio | yes, had to add that otherwise the status bar would be unreadable when scrolling in the home screen | 15:23 |
| Ingvix | I can see that | 15:25 |
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| King_DuckZ | has anybody ever used upwork.com? I've just registered but I see lots of job ads like "write some software - Hi, I need a Desktop Windows software ( .exe ) that would show ads to my users." | 16:40 |
| King_DuckZ | it's not really making me feel as applying for anything | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | King_DuckZ: there's some opinions up and down.. what are you specifically looking for? | 16:41 |
| King_DuckZ | c++ work in general, something for at least a few months | 16:42 |
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| vam52 | hello all! is it possible to make a build with sailfish qml controls for android device using Sailfish SDK? | 17:48 |
| coderus | sailfishos controls are not opensource yet, sorry | 17:50 |
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| vam52 | so this means that I can't make open-source app with sailfish look =) ha ha | 18:07 |
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| coderus | some time, but not now | 18:23 |
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| neurosys | Hi! anyone know if its possible to keep sfos in landscape? | 19:17 |
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| * urjaman sheds a tear | 19:20 | |
| urjaman | anyways, 1. there's a setting know that'll do that, for the apps that allow landscape... 2. there are patches around that enable more of the UI to be in landscape, 3. no everything will still not be in landscape... | 19:20 |
| neurosys | urjaman: gotcha | 19:21 |
| urjaman | *-know ? ... i dunno how i typed that | 19:21 |
| neurosys | urjaman: better to use portrait ? | 19:21 |
| urjaman | i dont know what you mean by better... | 19:23 |
| urjaman | you just dont want it to ever rotate? ... | 19:23 |
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| neurosys | urjaman: correct :) if possible | 19:24 |
| urjaman | well, forcing portrait would be closer to that... | 19:24 |
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| urjaman | i dont know of anything that forces landscape really :P, but i guess i'll be proven wrong | 19:24 |
| urjaman | since i've never wanted to force portrait :P | 19:25 |
| neurosys | urjaman: heh im actualy messing with it on a raspi | 19:25 |
| neurosys | trying to keep some consistency | 19:25 |
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| neurosys | urjaman: heh the setting doesnt seem to care what i want :P | 19:33 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | !seen MSameer | 20:50 |
| merbot | dr_gogeta86: MSameer was last seen in #sailfishos 1 year, 17 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 36 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <MSameer> vakkov: no plans to do more changes tonight | 20:50 |
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