Thursday, 2016-06-02

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stephgTheRealJohnGalt: someone *may* have built it in OBS08:07
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chem|stso buttons on jbl speaker all work and I am frustrated again...08:33
chem|stdoes anyone have an idea how to debug bluetooth buttons?08:34
chem|strockbox buttons work like a charme08:34
chem|sthere they don't08:34
chem|sthere as in on JBL they don't08:35
chem|stit is a new bt4.1 device with some more profiles than the Jolla knows08:35
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Thaodanis it possible to change the dpi?09:18
maikooolThaodan: afaik it is, see line 298 of http://piratepad.net/hadk-faq09:24
maikooolthe 'optimal' ratio from a design standpoint is having four icons fit horizontal in the menu09:25
maikooolbut if you personally prefer otherwise, nobody is going to stop you ;)09:25
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Thaodanok this changes fonts and so on too?09:26
Thaodani only did this on android and on my desktop linux09:27
maikoooli'm not completely sure tbh if the fonts also change09:27
maikooolbut I guess they do, wouldn't make sense otherwise09:27
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Thaodanok thanks09:30
Thaodananother question: is there a hook for conman to disable mobile data when connected with wlan?09:31
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chem|stThaodan: isn't it tether true false?09:51
chem|stThaodan: or if it is really an "is there" question then maybe the answer is yes09:51
Thaodanmy phone is not therered it's just connected to wlan09:52
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chem|stThaodan: it prefers wlan over mdata, both connections are active when tethered, mdata is off as long as there is wlan09:59
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Thaodanah ok so I was misguided. But it is still possible to tell the modem to go to 2g on wlan?10:01
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kimmolihttps://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-refund-round-1-closing/12:47
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tortoisedochey12:52
tortoisedoccan anyone confirm if tracker is a graphdb or not?12:52
tortoisedoc(or how close it comes to be one?)12:52
r0kk3rztortoisedoc: yeah is a graph db, which is why its interface is SPARQL12:55
tortoisedocr0kk3rz : exactly what I thought too, but is that enough to make it a graphdb? im not sure12:55
chem|stThaodan: what state the modem is in does not depend on wlan ever, even tethered it would just use EDGE on 2G12:56
r0kk3rztortoisedoc: it depends on exactly what you're after i guess12:56
r0kk3rztracker isnt really a general purpose database12:56
ThaodanI know but  I want to set it to 2g when wlan is in use to reduce power usage12:56
chem|stThaodan: do you have 4g?12:57
Thaodanyes I do12:57
chem|stthen let it have 4g12:57
tortoisedocr0kk3rz : well that's exactly what I want to find out; if tracker is a graphdb, it should be good for graphing any thing (that can be graphed), if it's not, well then it's not, but then why does it provide a SPARQL interface?12:57
Thaodanwhy? does its the same?12:57
chem|stThaodan: there is not really a measurable upside to toggling, switching modes uses probably more power than to just stay in 4g12:58
chem|stThaodan: iirc 4g is a lot better in idle than 3g at least, it actually depends on your provider too, higher bands need more power12:59
Thaodanok and when there's no 3g too?12:59
r0kk3rztortoisedoc: tracker is more a graphdb applied to a particular use case, rather than a general purpose database13:00
chem|stwell I'd understand to go down to 2g if you would idle in 3g but with 4g available I would just stick to that13:00
r0kk3rztortoisedoc: but i guess if you wrote your own ontology, you could use it to store anything you liked13:00
Thaodanok does conman supports hooks based on connection type?13:01
chem|stcompletely idle device in 4g lasts almost a week13:01
chem|stso the modem is for sure no powerdrain13:01
tortoisedocr0kk3rz : hmm and tracker could support that iirc?13:01
chem|stThaodan: if you have uptime issues you better look somewhere else, datatransmissions for example13:02
chem|stimap idle on two accounts eats some battery but not alot, jabber eats a lot of battery and so on13:02
r0kk3rztortoisedoc: tortoisedoc https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker/Documentation/AppDevelopersManual/IntroductionToRDFandSPARQL13:04
tortoisedocr0kk3rz : thanks13:05
tortoisedocinteresting, so theoretically, with the proper ontology, we could manage contacts in tracker as well?13:05
tortoisedoc(and by contacts I mean all types of contacts)13:05
chem|stThaodan: I have BT always on, wlan always on most of the time mdata turned on too, but no clients that idle, so my consumption is actual usage, I get through a couple of days usually13:06
r0kk3rztortoisedoc: https://developer.gnome.org/ontology/stable/nco-ontology.html13:07
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tortoisedocr0kk3rz : n00b question, is tracker  gnome-based?13:07
tortoisedoc(i.e. from the gnome team)13:08
r0kk3rzyes13:08
r0kk3rzits a gnome thing13:08
* tortoisedoc shrugs13:08
tortoisedocif it works as well as gnome shell, god save us all13:08
r0kk3rz:D13:11
r0kk3rzit can be a bit of a dog at times yes13:11
Thaodanchem|st: ok I'll try that.13:13
Thaodanin my opionion its a bit ironic when everything else is qt13:14
tortoisedocThaodan : why would it be ironic for qt?13:16
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Thaodannot for qt but gnome stuff in a mostly qt based software stack is ironic in my opion. But I think i cause Meego used it too13:18
r0kk3rzgnome is closely related to the freedesktop stuff though13:19
r0kk3rzwhich is also highly used13:19
chem|stwhile you are at it, I have my BT stuck in a "I want to be internet connection" state, I already deleted the configs in NM but it seems it is stuck somewhere in gnome, it was a phone that used to be connected a while ago...13:19
chem|stany idea?13:19
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chem|stand no, google is no help for that matter13:20
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tortoisedocchem|st : reboot?13:21
* tortoisedoc ducks13:21
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Thaodanchem|st:  maybe  somewhere in dconf?13:21
Thaodangnome store things usally there13:21
chem|sttortoisedoc: well it rebooted once in a while since the last time bt was connected13:22
Thaodanr0kk3rz: thiis is true but they sometimes thing there the only one do their thing without considering using things from others13:22
r0kk3rzsure, the NIH syndrome is strong with them13:23
sledgesPSA: SailfishOS community collab #mer-meeting <- join this channel and have fun!13:30
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chem|stThaodan: in gconf I find the mac in the gnome-phone-manager, no idea though13:32
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naguaHey there. I wanted to ask if it is possible to use another emoji set inside the android vm in sailfish os. Telegram only chooses the installed black and white system emojis and some of them are even missing. So is there a way to replace them?13:37
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ThaodanI've got this https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/NetworkManager/SystemSettings/jessie maybe it helps13:44
Thaodanbut I use KDE so I cant help you so good13:50
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chem|stwhat a question, wonder why people use emojies at all as they are so often only displayed on their own device like they want to...15:05
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nh1402does Sailfish have a file dialog API?16:33
SfietKonstantinWnh1402: no16:37
SfietKonstantinW:(16:37
SfietKonstantinWrewriting your own is quite simple thohug16:37
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leszeknh1402: I written quite a few file open dialogs in my apps. (they basically share all the same) You can take a look at turboReadr or webcat or LLs Video Player to get one16:50
leszekgithub.com/llelectronics16:50
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kimmolisilica has somekind filepicker18:26
kimmolifrom fixed path, so no browsing18:26
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Thaodanwhat is the best buiild target for jolla tablet on mer obs?20:56
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r0kk3rzThaodan: sailfish_latest x8621:05
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Thaodani have found it was irritated of the repo name21:07
ThaodanI enabled the arch i586 but there some deps missing21:08
Thaodanany ideas why for this arch only?21:08
Thaodanhttps://build.merproject.org/project/monitor/home:Thaodan:skypeweb21:08
urjamanwhy i586??21:10
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Thaodancause there's only: armv7l armv6el armv7el armv8el i586 mips x86_64 aarch6421:11
r0kk3rzThaodan: yeah those missing deps are bad, maybe try x86_64 instead21:12
Thaodanbut I want to build for the tablet isn't that 32bit?21:12
r0kk3rzSK is using something else, but yes i586 arch21:13
r0kk3rzhttps://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:sfietkonstantin:sailfish:latest/harbour-twablet21:13
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ThaodanI think I've got it had to use the advanced interface21:25
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Thaodanis there a way to push pkgs from obs to openrepos?21:38
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Thaodanis there a reason why remote sources wont work on mer obs?22:12
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