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Krikkewhere do I report bugs with fingerterm?07:09
FireFlyYou could create an issue on the repo07:11
FireFlyoh. or not, apparently they moved from github07:11
FireFlymaybe https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/fingerterm07:12
kimmolibugs are not moved?07:12
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tortoisedocbugs are in bugzilla?07:19
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tortoisedocduh duh10:36
tortoisedocim still puzzled on how sfos manages the "suspending" of apps in the background10:36
tortoisedocwhere to look for info / code?10:36
tortoisedocit should not be in the closed bits, i'd assume?10:36
urjamanwell, iirc it just says to them that you're in the background ...10:36
urjamanor not foreground10:37
urjamanthe apps need to stop doing stuff themselves, mostly atleast...10:37
urjamanQt might help a bit10:37
tortoisedocurjaman : @lipstick level yes; but who takes care of actually dumping the app to disk, etc10:37
tortoisedocdetails of the mechanism is what im after :)10:37
urjamanthey're not dumped to disk ... wtf10:37
tortoisedocthat was just an example :P10:38
urjamanif you mean the greyed out things, they got killed by the kernel (from android add-ons...) near-OOME killer10:38
tortoisedocnoo10:38
urjamannever dumped to disk10:38
urjamanand if an app sits unused, yeah kernel is going to swap it out eventually ...10:39
tortoisedocyes exactly10:39
urjamanbut wut10:39
tortoisedocthat's the case10:39
tortoisedocswap it out from where to where?10:39
tortoisedocfrom ram to where?10:39
tortoisedocdisk?10:39
urjamanbut thats just normal memory management10:39
urjamanyeah there's a swap partition on the mmc10:39
tortoisedocwell the state of the app will need to be update?10:40
urjamanno10:40
tortoisedocs/update/updated10:40
urjamankernel will load it back when those pages are touched10:40
tortoisedochow about network connections10:40
urjaman_thats just normal memory management_10:40
tortoisedocah ok you are talking about *page swapping10:40
urjamanif a packet arrives, the app wakes up, page gets loaded from disk and code from the page ran ...10:40
tortoisedocid say there are more things involved?10:41
tortoisedocso basically10:42
tortoisedocafter opening an app10:43
tortoisedocand having it in the task switcher10:43
tortoisedocfor a while10:43
tortoisedocif i try to reopen the app, it will take a long time to start again10:43
tortoisedoc(and this is really down to earth explanation now)10:43
tortoisedocyou say that's due to the kernel doing the memory management10:43
tortoisedocin SF1.0 it did not used to work like this afair10:44
tortoisedoc(for instance)10:44
urjamanwell, memory usage of everything (especially on the Qt update iirc) has gone up, thus more memory management ...10:45
urjamanand the apps get their "shadows" left on the task switcher if they get killed ... thats new too....10:45
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urjamanand IIRC there was some GPU resources being freed more, but thats what i said about Qt helping ...10:46
urjamanbut that should be basically instant10:46
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zGrrmoin :)13:26
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smyruOut of sudden my device stopped properly react to top edge swype action. Within app it is interpreted as minimize action istead of close app. And its noop on main screen. Could not find any dupes on TJC. Where to start looking?17:06
urjamansettings17:07
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smyruurjaman: wow, haven't even thought about this. Looks like I forgot I got children in the house.17:13
kimmoli:)17:13
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King_DuckZhi, is there anybody from jolla around? I'd like to ask something in pvt19:53
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jaywalkKing_DuckZ: I think you have a better chance with the regular support channel20:08
King_DuckZjaywalk:  :(20:09
jaywalkKing_DuckZ: shouldn't be sad bout that, they've always been swift to reply for me!20:10
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King_DuckZthat's not the reason I made that --> :(20:24
King_DuckZit's that I wanted some informal opinion about something, and customer support is probably not the right place to ask20:24
Stskeepsyou can probably ask me but it won't be a official answer20:25
King_DuckZStskeeps: did you work there?20:25
Stskeepssure20:26
King_DuckZpvt?20:26
Stskeepswell, right now i'm more of a consultant but minor difference20:26
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