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| speedy__ | hi @all. i am interested in using sailfish os on samsung s4. is it possible/stable/usable? | 09:08 |
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| coderus | speedy__: try #sailfishos-porters | 09:35 |
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| speedy__ | coderus: tnx | 09:56 |
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| nickg333 | can anyone recommend a good map app? | 20:24 |
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| alterego | Here Maps on the app store. | 20:24 |
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| alterego | That is the Play store | 20:26 |
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| nickg333 | alterego: I'm running Sailfish on a Fairphone 2, and the store doesn't list the Jolla Here Maps, I guess because of licencing issues | 20:39 |
| tbr | that is quite likely | 20:43 |
| tbr | AFAIU FP2 is a community adaptation, so doesn't have the commercial sailfish features, especially those licensed from third parties (HERE, xt9, etc) | 20:44 |
| tbr | also no MS Exchange support | 20:45 |
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| M4rtinK | nickg333: try modRana | 20:51 |
| M4rtinK | nickg333: & don't forget to let me know how you like it :) | 20:51 |
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| M4rtinK | tbr: I think the only critical part missing for the ports is the Android app support | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: everything else is ranging from nice to have to useless | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | at least IMHO | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | so I'm kinda thinking if some tearing might be a good idea | 20:53 |
| M4rtinK | eq. to make the stuff available separately | 20:53 |
| nickg333 | M4rtinK: thanks I'll try it out | 20:53 |
| M4rtinK | I guess that might make the licensing/porting effort potentially easier | 20:53 |
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| tbr | M4rtinK: I don't care much about android app support. and there is an oss alternative shaping up | 20:55 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: the XT9 prediction is kinda nice, could be done by automatic learning (like on the n900 iirc) too | 20:56 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: I guess it really depends - I'm mostly using it for some pretty niche apps myself and only once in a a while | 20:56 |
| tbr | I can't use it for the app that I use the most, so I keep an android device around for playing ingress | 20:57 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: and the oss alternative really looks promising :) | 20:57 |
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| tbr | (you get your account suspended if you play it on a jolla, for supposed 'cheating'. seems they don't like aliendalvik and the here positioning libs) | 20:57 |
| nh1402 | M4rtinK: oss alternative? | 20:58 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: that's pretty stupid from them | 20:59 |
| tbr | aosp in a window | 20:59 |
| M4rtinK | nh1402: aren't you the one working on it ? ;-) | 20:59 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: its a corner case and they don't care because they don't know | 20:59 |
| nh1402 | M4rtinK: yrd, I wasn't sure if you were talking about a keyboard predicition thing or something else | 21:00 |
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| nh1402 | yes* | 21:00 |
| r0kk3rz | tbr: you cant ingress in alien dalvik? im sure i had it running once | 21:07 |
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| tbr | r0kk3rz: you can, but will get banned because their anti cheating checks don't understand what's going on | 21:13 |
| r0kk3rz | tbr: ah of course | 21:16 |
| * tbr had it running right after the device went on sale | 21:17 | |
| tbr | bans started happening a few months later | 21:17 |
| zoldyck | do you know how Jolla is doing? | 21:18 |
| zoldyck | there aren't much news and OS updates lately | 21:18 |
| tbr | in my opinion not very well | 21:19 |
| tbr | but only time will tell | 21:19 |
| tbr | there is a faint chance that things bounce back | 21:19 |
| zoldyck | where back? | 21:20 |
| zoldyck | around 2014? | 21:20 |
| alterego | Someone should really work on a FOSS implementation of Android support, tbh .. | 21:22 |
| alterego | Everyone would be a lot happier .. | 21:22 |
| tbr | alterego: someone™ is | 21:25 |
| alterego | tbr: oh yeah? :) | 21:31 |
| zoldyck | Google should drop Android as a failure | 21:32 |
| zoldyck | and developers develop for Sailfish | 21:32 |
| alterego | Android is a failure? lol | 21:32 |
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| zoldyck | yes, too many fatal flaws! | 21:33 |
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| alterego | Like mass adoption, success, developer monetisation, advertisement revenue, e-commerce, security and enterprise market penetration? | 21:33 |
| zoldyck | that was pure luck :) | 21:34 |
| alterego | Nothing is perfect, everything has flaws. That doesn't mean that something is a failure. | 21:34 |
| alterego | It wasn't luck at all. | 21:34 |
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| zoldyck | I'm joking | 21:34 |
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| nickg333 | I think Jolla should start some sort of membership scheme. Members would pay 5 Euros a month and get access to Jolla services in return (apart from anything related to security which everyone must get). | 21:37 |
| zoldyck | what services? | 21:38 |
| nickg333 | not sure, maybe just access to their curated store | 21:42 |
| nickg333 | possibly non-security OS updates | 21:43 |
| nickg333 | Mandrake/Mandriva did something similar I think | 21:43 |
| nickg333 | but their problem was they were competing against many desktop distros | 21:43 |
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