Thursday, 2016-03-31

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spiiroinreview appreciated (mer 1554): https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/mce/merge_requests/2804:57
merbotMer bug 1554 in mce "MCE settings are in gconf namespace even though gconf is no longer used" [Task,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155404:57
spiiroin^ coderus: you showed some interest to this in the past ...04:57
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coderusspiiroin: oh that should be cool!05:16
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Aoyagi_trashtopWhat's the reason behind this? https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-refund-instructions-ohjeet-takaisinmaksulle/09:07
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Aoyagi_trashtopOh, they killed the project. Never mind then.09:11
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r0kk3rzAoyagi_trashtop: the project failed beyond recovery09:15
Aoyagi_trashtopUnderstandable. It's a small company after all...09:15
tortoisedocAoyagi_trashtop : that's not an excuse09:24
tortoisedocAoyagi_trashtop : it was sold wrongly (as in something you would be getting); so the whole thing bordered to a scam09:25
Aoyagi_trashtopThey're overpromising and underdelivering. Taking the best from Microsoft!09:25
tortoisedocAoyagi_trashtop : that's why the refunds are here09:25
tortoisedocAoyagi_trashtop : can you call it overpromising if you already start with the idea not to deliver? :)09:26
tortoisedoc(but advertise differently?)09:26
Aoyagi_trashtopThey did that? I thought pre-orders imply that it's supposed to be delivered.09:26
tortoisedocnot if preorders are part of the advertisement campain09:27
tortoisedocthere are too many "if"'s in this09:27
tortoisedocof course projects fail09:28
tortoisedocthats just a risk09:28
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r0kk3rzpreorders have all been refunded, no scam09:30
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tortoisedocr0kk3rz im not implying it was09:47
tortoisedoc(a scam that is)09:47
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r0kk3rzthen why did you use the word scam?10:08
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tortoisedocr0kk3rz: "bordered to a scam"10:31
tortoisedocnot only the word scam if you please to :P10:31
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Ccdc_DuckZthey should still try hard and pull out something else from the hat, imo11:42
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Ccdc_DuckZthere is only 1 device one can buy with sailfish, and it's starting to look outdated, compared to competition11:43
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Ccdc_DuckZmy co-worker next to me was complaining about not having a choice other than android or ios, so I told him about sailfish, including what happened with the tablet11:44
Ccdc_DuckZthe fact is he would try a different phone, but he won't buy the current model because it's too old for him11:45
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Armadilloso he has to wait11:46
Ccdc_DuckZwhy don't they just make fair phones with sailfish pre-installed, since it's said to work, that's beyond me, but still nothing in sight11:47
r0kk3rzwindows phone, bbos, ubuntu touch, sailfish11:47
r0kk3rztheres plenty of choice, clearly they didnt look11:47
r0kk3rzCcdc_DuckZ: as for fairphone, they might just do that, but these things take time11:48
Armadillobecause there is a difference between "It's said to work." and "It works."11:49
Ccdc_DuckZubuntu phone... that would be interesting, if only one could buy it11:49
r0kk3rzyou can, theres a bunch of devices with ubuntu, more than sailfish11:49
Armadilloas Fairphone already said on Twitter they have to test the device, which I'm really happy to hear, because it means, that they are really working on this11:49
Ccdc_DuckZArmadillo: either way, he'll just get a more recent android, and I can't blame him since I'm likely to do the same if there is nothing new out within the year11:50
Armadillosame here ;)11:50
Ccdc_DuckZr0kk3rz: are they only sold in russia/china/india/brazil?11:51
r0kk3rzno11:51
r0kk3rzyou can buy BQ phones all over EU11:51
Armadillomy Jolla's battery is dying and the device is always getting performance issues11:51
Ccdc_DuckZbecause that seems to be the problem nowdays... see tizen and firefox os11:51
ArmadilloI have still hope for the fairphone11:51
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r0kk3rzArmadillo: yeah the FP2 looks promising really, i expect we will see a fully supported port released at some point11:55
SailorAs long as Maps and Androidsupport is not available on FP2 it's a not buy :-/11:56
M4rtinKsomeone actually uses the default Maps app ?12:02
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Sailorfrom time to time ;)12:02
M4rtinKinteresting :)12:03
M4rtinKI really need to make a new modRana release soon :)12:03
BysmyyrM4rtinK: sometimes, only big problem is that I cannot always select after seacrh12:03
Bysmyyrbut that because I am lazy12:04
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[ol]I heard that batteries like this can be used as replacement for Jolla phone battery: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/PolarCell-Akku-HTC-Desire-310-D310N-B0PA2100-BA-S960-Accu-Acku-Batterie-Battery-/37136125623114:16
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SebbanThis page shows that they can, but that the temperature readings are incompatible and the official battery has better quality: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.se/2015/09/test-compatible-batteries-for-jolla.html14:20
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Ccdc_DuckZcan you buy official replacement batteries at all? because I'm wondering why they even bothered putting a removable battery14:25
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urjamanat one point a very small batch was available and was gone faster than i could use the web interface ..14:26
r0kk3rzCcdc_DuckZ: most likely came standard with the base device14:26
urjamanbut yeah, you can get a 199e battery plus an extra jolla :P14:26
stephgPSA SFOS FOSS meeting about to start in #mer-meeting14:26
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Ccdc_DuckZurjaman: :D14:32
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jmlichHi, I notice very poor latency with my jolla tablet. According to "perf top" takes [bcm4330] 93% system resources.16:20
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coderusreboot :)16:26
r0kk3rzsledges: does pootle/sailfishos allow for custom language codes? or is there one already for En_AU?16:26
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sledgesr0kk3rz: you can add custom, but best to match with posix locale acronyms16:28
sledgesso yet unsure what to do with Klingon :D16:28
r0kk3rzyes, or the obligatory pirate translation16:29
sledgesaye!16:29
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fledermaussledges: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codes_for_constructed_languages16:45
sledgesfledermaus: lol cool! do we have posix locale info on such? :/ like days of week16:46
fledermausno idea.16:48
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sledgeshm, but still a good lead16:51
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jmlichsledges, M4rtinK do you have some questions about https://www.transifex.com/jozef-mlich/jolla-cesky/ ?18:42
jmlichI will be happy to contribute to sailfish pootle. I can18:44
jmlichprepare some script if needed.18:45
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jmlichsledges, Our .ts files are available also at https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:xmlich02/jolla-translations-cs_CZ and https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:xmlich02/jolla-translations-sk_SK  (look for content of tar.gz files)18:55
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