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| coderus | when sailfishos will switch to qt5.6? :D | 06:48 |
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| Stskeeps | patches welcome? :p | 06:49 |
| * tbr somehow suspects that jolla doesn't have the engineering power and possibly knowledge to do it, anymore, after all they already struggled with getting to their current state from 5.0 | 06:51 | |
| Stskeeps | tbr, yes and no - the needed people are starting to be back on board by now | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | that said you probably want 5.6 + a few updates | 06:52 |
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| Stskeeps | as they stabilize a bit | 06:52 |
| tbr | and then everyone needs to update their apps to work with it as they will break in unexpected ways | 06:53 |
| Stskeeps | the new javascript engine certainly made life fun last time around | 06:53 |
| tbr | dropping the qt-web thing is also going to be 'fun' | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | ugh, qtwebkit is gone from 5.6? | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | like, unbuildable? | 06:54 |
| tbr | no idea | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:54 |
| tbr | I thought it was deprecated in 5.2 or 5.3? | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | it was, but that never stopped anybody from using it :P | 06:55 |
| tbr | sure, maintenance burden is on the user | 06:55 |
| Dotti | it is removed from qt 5.6, but the source is available and has received patches so that it still builds with 5.6 | 06:57 |
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| nib | Stskeeps: qtwebkit was only removed from release packages | 07:19 |
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| tortoisedoc | from 5.2 to 5.6? thats a faaar jump | 07:27 |
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| kontio | one small step in git, one giant leap in sailfish os :D | 07:29 |
| tortoisedoc | one huge headache for whoever does the task ;) | 07:30 |
| tortoisedoc | kontio : you still on the jolla boat btw? | 07:31 |
| kontio | tortoisedoc: I'm a land rat now | 07:31 |
| tortoisedoc | land rat? :D | 07:31 |
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| tbr | german term for landlubber | 07:32 |
| kontio | yeah in German it's rat :) | 07:32 |
| tortoisedoc | achso :D | 07:33 |
| tortoisedoc | I wonder if there might be licensing issues with qt 5.6? | 07:34 |
| tortoisedoc | given gpl3 i mean | 07:34 |
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| zGrr | moin | 08:23 |
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| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: lgplv3 but yeah, thats up to jolla what they want to do really | 08:55 |
| chriadam | qtwebkit is still buildable | 08:55 |
| chriadam | tbr: of course we have the expertise. | 08:55 |
| r0kk3rz | being stuck on qt5.2 forever because of licencing sounds like a strategy fail to me | 08:56 |
| chriadam | what we probably don't have at the moment is the spare resource bandwidth to do so. | 08:56 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : you read my mind | 08:56 |
| chriadam | mainly because it affects pretty much every single component in the native stack. | 08:56 |
| chriadam | only the tools will be gpl3. the libraries will be lgpl3 | 08:57 |
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| coderus | opensorce sailfishos fully and forget about problemo | 08:57 |
| chriadam | I'd like to. one step at a time, though. | 08:58 |
| zGrr | my preciousss :) | 08:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: they could also pay Qt a large sum for a commercial licence i guess | 09:00 |
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| Aciid | which is essentially Digia | 09:12 |
| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : i do not think they are not | 09:16 |
| urjaman | how many negations was that ... | 09:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | double neg, so you do think they are (are what exactly?) | 09:20 |
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| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : paying license fee to qt? I think you have once you use it for profit | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | no | 10:08 |
| tortoisedoc | s/profit/commercial reasons? | 10:08 |
| tortoisedoc | (ps bear with me im no expert in this particular part of the qt world so my words might be utter rubbish) | 10:09 |
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| tbr | commercial license allows you to keep everything closed source and other things | 10:16 |
| tbr | so if you or your lawyers are allergic to the gpl... | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | lgplv2/3 gives you permissions to do whatever as long as you dynamic link and provide source | 10:20 |
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| tbr | some still don't like it | 10:21 |
| tortoisedoc | gpl3 allows for dynamic linking? | 10:22 |
| tortoisedoc | wow | 10:22 |
| Acce | lgpl | 10:22 |
| tbr | lgpl | 10:22 |
| tortoisedoc | ah | 10:22 |
| Acce | not gpl | 10:22 |
| tortoisedoc | i guess this licensing landscape is what influences the ammount of backporting / the speed of updating | 10:23 |
| tortoisedoc | btw | 10:24 |
| tortoisedoc | how's qml in that perspective | 10:24 |
| tortoisedoc | linked code? | 10:24 |
| tortoisedoc | derivative work? | 10:24 |
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| tortoisedoc | given it's scripted & run on an interpreter, i'd shoot for the first one | 10:24 |
| Raim | none of that | 10:25 |
| Raim | for example bash scripts are also not a derivative work of bash | 10:26 |
| Sail0r | is there now a download for sfos on fairphone2? | 10:31 |
| mal- | Sail0r: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_fp2 | 10:32 |
| Sail0r | mal-: thx :D wasn't linked from the matrix | 10:33 |
| mal- | yes, I forgot to add the link | 10:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | Raim : what else are bash scripts then? | 11:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | new works | 11:37 |
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