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| Profpatsch | kengu: Did you do anything special? | 00:05 |
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| Profpatsch | kengu: And is it Sailfish 2.0? | 00:05 |
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| toxip | Profpatsch: I still use Whatsup | 00:16 |
| toxip | even though it was took down | 00:16 |
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| toxip | I found a link somewhere | 00:16 |
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| coderus | android whatsapp works just fine | 01:38 |
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| kengu | Profpatsch: nothing special I could remember of and yes 2.0 | 07:00 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 08:27 |
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| zGrr | another auction appeared on taobao. this time with operating system field in description "updated". | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | to 'android'? | 09:06 |
| zGrr | nope. to jolla. | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | fun | 09:07 |
| zGrr | fun, but only if they would actually delivered the thing. | 09:08 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | https://twitter.com/dr_gogeta86/status/677417146377510912 | 09:17 |
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| zGrr | :) i am not suprised. | 09:19 |
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| daitheflu | Hi | 09:26 |
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| merbot | coderus: lukedirtwalker was last seen in #sailfishos 2 days, 20 hours, 36 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <lukedirtwalker> oh okay | 13:02 |
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| Profpatsch | kengu: It works now. You have to allow Android apps to read your contacts. | 14:19 |
| Profpatsch | After you do, you can disable it again, but it needs the contact list once. | 14:19 |
| Profpatsch | Why doesn’t SFOS simulate an empty address book? That would stop all those apps from breaking. | 14:20 |
| Profpatsch | When you disable the option, I mean. | 14:20 |
| chem|st | Profpatsch: that is the next level, first level was to have the option to turn it off at all | 14:21 |
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| svip | The SMS program has an issue; I once set a text message to three persons. | 14:27 |
| svip | Now *one* of these persons' text messages keeps going into that thread. | 14:27 |
| coderus | :D | 14:27 |
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| svip | Which is frustrating, because I cannot reply to the person in the same thread. | 14:27 |
| coderus | sex message, i hope? :D | 14:28 |
| svip | No. | 14:28 |
| daitheflu | that good old SMS issue :( | 14:28 |
| svip | Maemo handled it well. | 14:28 |
| svip | BY NOT HAVING THREADS. | 14:28 |
| svip | It just added the same message to each person you sent it to. | 14:28 |
| svip | Simple and worked. | 14:28 |
| chem|st | community meeting T-1 in #mer-meeting | 14:29 |
| svip | More excellent too, is that now when I sent the person a text message, it just keeps saying 'sending'. | 14:29 |
| svip | Even though it is sent. | 14:29 |
| coderus | meeting started | 14:30 |
| svip | daitheflu: Is there a fix? | 14:31 |
| svip | Can I get things working again? | 14:31 |
| TemeV | svip: nuke the messagedatabase :) | 14:31 |
| TemeV | I guess it should fix that | 14:31 |
| svip | :( But I don't want to nuke it. | 14:31 |
| daitheflu | svip: not that I know of :( | 14:32 |
| TemeV | I just read commit messages of libcommhistory (the mer mw handling that stuff) and there was some commits related to that | 14:32 |
| svip | Deleting the multiuser thread solved the issue. | 14:33 |
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| svip | So just remember to delete it immediately after sending a text message to more than one person. | 14:33 |
| TemeV | not sure if it was in already released version (i.e. they broke it in last version) or did they find the issue and it its fixed in next release | 14:33 |
| daitheflu | svip : that's what I usually do (but I can't consider this as a fix) | 14:34 |
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| Profpatsch | So my impression concerning settings is: | 14:57 |
| Profpatsch | Sailfish wants to have all application’s settings in the central settings menu. | 14:58 |
| Profpatsch | Which is a nice way to handle it imho. | 14:58 |
| Profpatsch | But application developers now simply clutter their pully menus with their own settings pages. | 14:58 |
| Profpatsch | Which is sad. | 14:58 |
| Profpatsch | Why is that? | 14:59 |
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| eugenio | because harbour doesn't allow application settings in the Settings app | 14:59 |
| eugenio | afaik | 14:59 |
| M4rtinK | Profpatsch: third party apps can't use the central settings, that's why :) | 14:59 |
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| M4rtinK | yeah, due to Harbor rules | 15:00 |
| Profpatsch | Are you kidding me? | 15:00 |
| Profpatsch | They have a brilliant design team and f* it up so badly? | 15:01 |
| Profpatsch | I don’t even. | 15:01 |
| M4rtinK | yep | 15:01 |
| M4rtinK | and it has been like this since day one | 15:01 |
| daitheflu | Profpatsch: that's probably something that's going to be available sometime... Well at least I hope | 15:01 |
| Profpatsch | That’s what happens when you have first class and second class infrastructure. | 15:01 |
| M4rtinK | the settings for apps have been like this since Sailfish OS launched 2 years ago | 15:02 |
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| Profpatsch | And when the “official” apps have access to libraries the rest doesn’t. | 15:02 |
| M4rtinK | and unfortunately there are more such things, such as: https://together.jolla.com/question/37176/return-to-last-active-app-from-lock-screen/ | 15:02 |
| Profpatsch | The designers must be really sad. | 15:03 |
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| urjaman | the reason isnt design per se but the settings app runs with privileges that you dont want to give normal apps, and if you allowed them to make settings "plugins", they'd get them too | 15:06 |
| urjaman | it's a security problem ... | 15:06 |
| M4rtinK | yeah - but should application authors care ? | 15:07 |
| coderus | applications developers never care | 15:07 |
| M4rtinK | maybe you should not present your settings like this if third parties actually can't make use of it | 15:08 |
| coderus | if they want to harbour - they do only allowed stuff | 15:08 |
| coderus | if they ok to openrepos - they do what they want | 15:08 |
| M4rtinK | like this it looks like developers are stupid as they don't even bother the canonical place for app settings | 15:08 |
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| eugenio | does the settings app have those special privilegies though? | 15:09 |
| eugenio | I guess they use DBus+Polkit | 15:09 |
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| eugenio | (guess, haven't looked at it tbh) | 15:09 |
| daitheflu | OR you could provide a fix for the security issues, like sandboxing or whatever, that's probably a big amount of work, but that's gonna be necessary if you want the platform to succeed | 15:10 |
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| coderus | eugenio: settings app is running under privileged group, apps running under user group | 15:11 |
| eugenio | uh, thanks | 15:11 |
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| bluszcz | https://twitter.com/capricotwi/status/677503153210859521 <- so future will be bright? | 15:23 |
| anYc | I guess this is from the current meeting, let's see what's in the log after the meeting | 15:25 |
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| chem|st | M4rtinK: you know that below 100 upvotes means that it is a minority request?! | 15:32 |
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| zGrr | the future wont be bright until they sortout the tabletgate in more or less acceptable manner. | 15:51 |
| iekku | anYc, yeah, it's from meeting | 15:54 |
| iekku | zGrr, fingers crossed | 15:54 |
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