Thursday, 2015-12-03

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FloR707Hi, I am stuck on building the MySQL driver. I am trying to follow this instruction http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sql-driver.html but I am getting qmake: command not found08:32
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tortoisedocFloR707 which env are you using?08:36
FloR707env?08:36
tortoisedocbuild environment08:36
FloR707Qt Creator 3.5.0 (SailfishOS)08:37
FloR707Based on Qt 5.5.0 (Clang 5.1 (Apple), 64 bit)08:37
FloR707Built on Nov 10 2015 10:05:4708:37
tortoisedoccan you copy-paste compilation log to pastebin?08:38
FloR707Where do I find that log?08:38
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FloR707http://pastebin.com/ty2tSu3108:45
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tortoisedocFloR707 : if you build from within qtcreator, do you get the same error?08:56
tortoisedocit seems to me you are currently building from bash08:56
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FloR707Are you looking for this? http://pastebin.com/nynFnAFk09:10
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coderusнщг ьшпре иу штышву ыи2 ещ игшдв ше шт сдш09:50
coderusзаа09:50
coderuspfff09:50
coderusyou might be in sb2 to build it ffrom cli09:50
dr_gogeta86FloR707: use a pure python  driver09:50
FloR707qDebug() << QSqlDatabase::drivers(); tells me [D] main:57 - ("QSQLITE") So I guess that I need the correct driver first.09:53
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tortoisedocbah09:58
tortoisedocdid he manage to compile09:58
tortoisedocor not09:58
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FloR707Can I accept a self-signed ssl cert within QML?11:29
tortoisedocFloR707 I do not see why not11:31
FloR707Not out of the box =) How can I tell QML to accept it?11:32
FloR707At the moment I get SSL handshake failed11:32
tortoisedocFloR707 : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18810788/how-a-client-app-connect-to-an-ssl-server-with-a-self-signed-certificate-in-qt11:32
tortoisedocsee here11:32
tortoisedoc^11:32
tortoisedocah qml11:32
tortoisedoc:D11:32
tortoisedocthats ...another piece of work11:32
tbrin the day and age of letsencrypt and startssl, self-signed certs have pretty much lost their raison d'être11:33
FloR707But I am on a shared hoster and I only have self-signed certs…11:34
FloR707So from QML side there is no easy way?11:35
tbryou're paying for being hosted on self signed certs? time to find a different hosting11:35
FloR707I am not paying, I only have to live with what I get.11:36
tortoisedoctbr : does a self-signed cert really make a difference from a non-self-signed one anymore? certs are extremely easy to obtain from everywhere nowadays (including alot of hoaxers)11:36
tbrtortoisedoc: with that premise you could drop TLS completely11:37
tortoisedocFlor707: hmm -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8790609/https-post-get-with-qml-qt11:37
tortoisedoctbr : then you loose the confidentiality :P11:37
tbrtortoisedoc: if you are under the assumption that you can't verify the party you talk to, there is no confidentiality, as you must assume to be MITMd11:38
FloR707thanks. Looks like there is everything on Stackoverflow…11:38
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tortoisedoctbr : unless you have the CA's cert which self-signed the cert, no?11:39
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tortoisedoclol11:39
tortoisedocthink this was too much for him :D11:39
tbrthat puts you in the same position as letsencrypt or startssl11:39
tortoisedoctrue11:39
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tbrjust that you need to take care of distributing the CA pubkey11:40
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tbrwith letsencrypt I have at least the minor expectation, that if it is a mitm, then they rogue actors managed to redirect the whole traffic through either BGP, DNS or otherwise to their rogue server to obtain that false cert. not that trivial.11:41
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tbror they broke into the server, at which point everything is toast anyway11:42
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zGrrmoin :)12:32
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Stskeepsremember, community meeting in 15 minutes in #mer-meeting , agenda at https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-December/006784.html14:15
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Coolgeekthx for the reminder Stskeeps :)14:19
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paviAhh the meeting agenda is about open source Jolla , which should be interesting.17:27
Stskeepsso it was earlier, and it was already17:28
pavioops17:28
paviNo one spoke anything here17:28
pavidamn I thought it was like 15 minutes from now17:28
* pavi goes to read the logs 17:28
Stskeeps[15:14] <Stskeeps> remember, community meeting in 15 minutes in #mer-meeting , agenda at https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-December/006784.html17:29
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paviReading the chat logs of Mer meetings is really like reading lot of chatter with no substance. Whatever we know is already announced in TJC. All I get is "things are being worked on". Did anyone learn anything new?17:38
r0kk3rzyeah i guess we kinda did17:38
r0kk3rzthere was recently a talk about 'significantly opening up soon', which wasnt mentioned in this meeting17:39
pavir0kk3rz: 1 or 2 lines summary ?17:39
r0kk3rzby recently, i mean last 6 months ish17:39
r0kk3rzso from that we can only conclude that those plans have been shelved for the time being17:40
paviso r0kk3rz you are saying that the meeting has less information than the previously given information17:40
pavior yeah plans might have changed.17:40
Stskeepsit's limited how much operating width you have in a debt restructuring situation (note, i'm not an employee of jolla anymore)17:40
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r0kk3rzyeah well its a lot of effort for no immediate financial gain17:42
r0kk3rzand I imagine the focus is on short term financial gain, to sustain the company17:42
paviAnd I dont understand why people ask about tablets or phones in that meeting? Wasn't that obvious?17:42
paviFor latest info on tablets or phones , please check TJC for rumours and updates ;)17:43
r0kk3rzwell the interesting part there is that they are still manufacturing more phone batches, which i thought was going to be ceased17:44
Stskeepsr0kk3rz: i doubt it's manufacturing, more like picking them from cold storage, or whereever they area17:45
Stskeeps-a17:45
r0kk3rzand i only asked about the tablet, because if it wasnt mentioned at all some of the crazies might make a story about it being hidden17:45
pavir0kk3rz: yeah we finally got some officialconfirmation that phone business is still going on17:45
r0kk3rz*deliberately hidden17:45
paviStskeeps: what happens if there is a new demand like 1000 orders on the phone , shouldnt it be then manufactured ?17:46
Stskeepspavi: doubt the re-tooling would be worth the expense17:47
paviStskeeps: ahh that means anyone interested in owning a J1 should buy *now* !17:47
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paviStskeeps: Do we have a roadmap for community distro like What are the things needed for Nemo/Mer to run on J1 ?17:52
pavihttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing doesn't have a section for J1 :(17:53
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r0kk3rzpavi: the J1 already runs nemo, to a point18:03
r0kk3rzbut the UI has to be replaced with glacier, which there is instructions around somewhere18:03
pavir0kk3rz: Did you mean https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Using_Glacier_Home_on_Jolla_--_Notes ?18:04
r0kk3rzthat sounds like it18:04
pavilocusf: I guess hasnt updated it for SFOS 2.0 or 1.9 so it might not work anymore18:04
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pavir0kk3rz: so if I understand correctly we will be running glacier UI not on nemo but on top of sfos replacing the propreitary UI of Jolla ?18:05
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r0kk3rzyes18:07
r0kk3rzthe bottom layer being effectively idential in this regard18:07
r0kk3rz*identical18:08
paviDoes Nemo have basic applications like email client , notes app etc ?18:09
r0kk3rznot sure on the current status of things like that18:09
* pavi is sick of jollas email client and hopes the community version on Nemo/Mer is better18:09
w00tkeep on hoping18:09
w00tthey haven't been touched for years, and afaik haven't gotten features at all since I stopped working on them18:10
w00tbut they're existant to some degree if someone wanted to do something with them18:11
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paviw00t: maybe its right time for some focus / ❤18:12
w00ti'm not going to be spending time on it18:12
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r0kk3rzit may be one thing that comes out of a possible failure of jolla, a renewed interest in nemo18:12
paviInstalling Nemo , running these apps and probably there is a bug tracker where w00t will recieve some community feedback ?18:13
r0kk3rzyeah theres a mer bugzilla18:13
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r0kk3rzlogging bugs to be taken care of might be a good way of getting someone to continue development anyway18:23
r0kk3rzemail apps are pretty boring things to develop, but if you have someone actually using them that helps18:24
pavir0kk3rz: the more community participates by bugs/ suggestions the more incentive the dev gets in improving his/her app18:26
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r0kk3rzthats more my point, there currently doesnt appear to be a dev18:26
paviIn the case of Mer when compared to sailfishos , no one would have even bothered to report anything which sailfishos gets continous feedback at TJC18:26
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locusfthere's also Nemo bugzilla18:50
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