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| entil | https://github.com/mjtorn/harbour-owncloud/commit/d08de8a8c55eedcfb09d9f839197044cec4c5d9a#diff-b7d4893ea28a9ef6dd5e95ba5b3a9688L54 | 12:16 |
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| entil | I got code like that, downloading a file off of owncloud, and all the debug says I'm preserving the mtime here, but it doesn't seem that way on the os | 12:16 |
| entil | therefore I installed pyinotify on the sdk emulator and I don't see an IN_ATTRIB event | 12:17 |
| entil | anyone got a simple clue as to why not? :S | 12:17 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 12:28 |
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| tortoisedoc | qml id's are supposed to be restricted to the scope (=qml file) they are defined in, right? | 12:28 |
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| entil | guess I'll have to write a c program and cross-compile for i686 so I can verify that ustat() is supposed to send that inotify event even :P | 12:38 |
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| WHATlol | Hello, do you know howlong is the Slush2015 on jolla.com? thx 4 you helf | 12:56 |
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| WHATlol | Hello never | 12:58 |
| entil | WHATlol: you probably want to ask on #jollamobile | 12:58 |
| WHATlol | ok, thanx, bb | 12:58 |
| entil | I have nfi and I don't know which surprises me more; that jolla represents on slush this year or that they didn't have anything but a discount on a two-year-old phone | 12:58 |
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| Never | Well.. I'm looking forward to the PuzzlePhone. Looks interesting | 12:59 |
| r0kk3rz | Never: their design makes me wonder whether we will see similar issues from the jolla phone | 13:01 |
| r0kk3rz | with their pin design | 13:01 |
| entil | 35% of $250,000 flexible goal | 13:02 |
| entil | if it only wasn't google-nsa | 13:02 |
| entil | anyway, calling utime() from a dummy c program causes the IN_ATTRIB inotify event | 13:02 |
| entil | but! I checked for utime()'s return value in the dummy program, not the actual app :D | 13:03 |
| entil | maybe there's something wrong there | 13:03 |
| Never | I never had any pin issues with my Jolla. And I am lucky about that | 13:03 |
| kimmoli | Never never say never ? | 13:05 |
| Never | Never. | 13:05 |
| tortoisedoc | N3v4h | 13:06 |
| r0kk3rz | Never: how long have you had it? | 13:12 |
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| r0kk3rz | all will succumb to the battery pin issues eventually | 13:13 |
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| Never | Since 23. December 2013 | 13:16 |
| Never | :) | 13:16 |
| Never | But I actually had some problems with the loudspeaker .. but Care fixed it while on warranty. | 13:18 |
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| Ingvix | uh, is there any real difference between this and #jollamobile channel? | 17:15 |
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| tbr | Ingvix: this is about app development and shit. the other one is just about general shit | 17:18 |
| Ingvix | oh, okay, cool | 17:18 |
| Nokius | tbr: :D | 17:20 |
| M4rtinK2 | Nokius: btw, thanks for reporting the UX issues modRana has on the tablet | 17:22 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK2: np | 17:23 |
| M4rtinK2 | Nokius: I have some fixes in mind but will probably wait for my tablet to arrive to properly test them | 17:23 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK2: if need more testing ping me | 17:23 |
| M4rtinK2 | Nokius: sure :) | 17:23 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK2: :) | 17:23 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK2: I hope soon u will have it if not are u in Brussels late JAN? | 17:24 |
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| M4rtinK2 | you mean FOSDEM ? | 17:24 |
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| Nokius | M4rtinK2: yes | 17:24 |
| M4rtinK2 | yeah, I plan to go there again | 17:25 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK2: same here | 17:25 |
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| Ingvix | is there any patch or something that would show more stuff on the lock screen than just the date and time? | 17:30 |
| Ingvix | like weather or what ever | 17:30 |
| Ingvix | or possibly system statistics | 17:31 |
| Ingvix | ram usage etc | 17:31 |
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| coderus | Ingvix: jolla is not only sailfish, and sailfish is more tha jolla. | 17:39 |
| Ingvix | that's true | 17:40 |
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| Ingvix | I think it would be nice if you could build your own virtual keyboards, maybe app specific | 17:59 |
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| coderus | maliit layouts are open | 18:07 |
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| Dr_Cain | is there any good way to get certain android apps to make a sound notification and blink the leds? | 18:22 |
| Dr_Cain | it only seems to work some of the time, and then only in the notification bar on the side | 18:22 |
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| Dr_Cain | https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/android-notifications <- or do I need to install this? | 18:24 |
| Dr_Cain | does this even work in sailfish 2.0 btw? | 18:24 |
| Ingvix | I think android apps don't understand that the you're not looking at the app | 18:27 |
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| Dr_Cain | hmm, I guess that could be it | 18:28 |
| Ingvix | if it's in the task bar that is | 18:28 |
| Ingvix | I always shut it down | 18:28 |
| Dr_Cain | well it works some times | 18:28 |
| Dr_Cain | and if I restart android support, some older messages pop up there | 18:28 |
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| Ingvix | well at least the native apps for telegram are being develeped | 18:31 |
| Ingvix | developed* | 18:32 |
| Ingvix | and many others I suppose | 18:33 |
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| Dr_Cain | true, but most of them are by independed developers using reverse engineered APIs | 18:39 |
| Dr_Cain | which isn't ideal | 18:39 |
| Dr_Cain | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95944 | 18:42 |
| Dr_Cain | oh lol | 18:43 |
| Dr_Cain | >I can confirm the problem is because of previously installed Android Notification. Performed hard reset (and even bricked the device lol) and it worked finally. | 18:43 |
| Dr_Cain | wonder what I have to remove since I had android notifications installed | 18:43 |
| Ingvix | I had it installed until I realised it didn't do nothing as the notifications worked fine without it | 18:50 |
| Ingvix | and then I just removed it | 18:50 |
| Dr_Cain | Well it's strange. They work some times, and the all at once and with no sound or led | 18:51 |
| Dr_Cain | Just like that post said | 18:52 |
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| Ingvix | meh, been working for me as long I don't leave the chat open before getting out the app | 18:56 |
| Dr_Cain | hmm, I'm just not to keen on doing a hard reset | 18:56 |
| Dr_Cain | going to take a while to get everything setup again after that | 18:57 |
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| Ingvix | it is truly a journey learning to use a new phone. Today I learned how to make folders | 19:00 |
| Ingvix | now my app view is very pretty | 19:00 |
| Dr_Cain | folders in sailfish? | 19:00 |
| Ingvix | yes | 19:00 |
| Dr_Cain | really now? | 19:00 |
| M4rtinK | you didn't know ? :) | 19:00 |
| M4rtinK | thinking about it it could be advertised more | 19:01 |
| Dr_Cain | haha, well yeah | 19:01 |
| Dr_Cain | how? | 19:01 |
| Ingvix | when in the app arrange and delete mode you put an app on to of another | 19:01 |
| Dr_Cain | ooooh | 19:02 |
| Ingvix | then they create a folder | 19:02 |
| Dr_Cain | who knew | 19:02 |
| Ingvix | magic | 19:02 |
| Dr_Cain | it just says Folder though | 19:02 |
| Dr_Cain | not very informative | 19:02 |
| Dr_Cain | ah you can rename it too | 19:03 |
| Dr_Cain | nice | 19:03 |
| M4rtinK | the icons could be better | 19:04 |
| M4rtinK | though | 19:04 |
| Ingvix | can't have it all | 19:05 |
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| M4rtinK | https://twitter.com/M4rtinK/status/665969375229427712 :) | 19:08 |
| M4rtinK | retweets welcome :) | 19:08 |
| Ingvix | twitter is a scary place | 19:09 |
| Ingvix | never signed up | 19:09 |
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| Ingvix | Can I choose channels to automatically join when connectin server in sailfish's irc? | 19:12 |
| M4rtinK | still the least scary IMHO from the (a)social media bunch | 19:12 |
| M4rtinK | Ingvix: sure | 19:12 |
| Ingvix | how the hell | 19:12 |
| zoldyck | Ingvix: I think you can't | 19:13 |
| Ingvix | that's what I thought | 19:13 |
| zoldyck | I use a bouncer and it auto-joins me :) | 19:13 |
| Ingvix | I got one too but not on freenode tho | 19:13 |
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| M4rtinK | well it just joins me | 19:16 |
| M4rtinK | to all channels I were in | 19:16 |
| M4rtinK | even query | 19:16 |
| M4rtinK_jolla_ | what he says! | 19:17 |
| Ingvix | do you use magic | 19:18 |
| M4rtinK | and it's IRC for Sailfish 0.9 | 19:18 |
| Ingvix | i try | 19:19 |
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| Ingvixes | yea it does remember the channels | 19:23 |
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| Ingvix | worried for nothing then | 19:23 |
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| M4rtinK | it's overall a really nice application :) | 19:24 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, it even rejoins query :) | 19:25 |
| Ingvix | yea you told that | 19:25 |
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| carepack | sorry, have to reask, how is it possible that irc for sailfish remembers the channels and the network? Or do I understood something wrong? | 19:28 |
| Ingvix | I was also worrying because I didn't find how to disconnect server but that escalated happily | 19:28 |
| Ingvix | I think it's magic | 19:29 |
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| Ingvix | carepack, you have to configure your own networks and save them. It probably saves the joining and query logs somewhere | 19:36 |
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| carepack | ok. then I ever missed the save option | 20:08 |
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| Ingvix | uh, once you have configurated the network they stick to the list? | 20:13 |
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| StyXman_ | this surely is in the FAQ, but I copuldn't find it in the site or the /topic: is there a whatsapp and/or telegram client for sailfish, or could I run the android one? | 20:31 |
| Ingvix | you can run android one. There are jollagram and sailorgram that are native but still needing a lot or developement | 20:31 |
| Ingvix | of* | 20:32 |
| Ingvix | I'm using android's currently | 20:32 |
| StyXman_ | ok | 20:33 |
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| Dr_Cain | reinstalling my device now | 20:47 |
| Dr_Cain | fun jumping between all these interm updates | 20:47 |
| dr_gogeta86 | not at all now we got 4 jumps? | 20:51 |
| Dr_Cain | I'd rather have one jump :P | 20:53 |
| Dr_Cain | 1.0.0.5 -> 2.0 :P | 20:53 |
| Smar | I’d rather have new hardware for 2.0, so, who cares :) | 20:54 |
| Dr_Cain | 1.0.0.5 -> 1.0.2.5 -> 1.1.2.16 | 20:54 |
| Dr_Cain | yeah, me too | 20:54 |
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| Dr_Cain | and aliendalvik 5.x | 20:54 |
| Dr_Cain | ah well | 20:54 |
| Smar | I mean, flashing should be so rare occurrence that it has no significance with anything | 20:55 |
| Dr_Cain | indeed, my device was working fine except for that android notification glitch | 20:55 |
| Dr_Cain | so I'm reinstalling now to see if that fixes it | 20:55 |
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| carepack | Ingvix: hu. they stick to the list for the time im in irc app. after closing and starting... maybe because I'm on 1.0 alpha? | 21:01 |
| Ischwitz | maybe | 21:02 |
| Ischwitz | i use 0.9 | 21:02 |
| Dr_Cain | I'm using the Tapchat irc app, but that's android unfortunatly | 21:02 |
| Dr_Cain | it would be nice if a native version of it could be made | 21:02 |
| Ischwitz | don't you like the native app? | 21:03 |
| Smar | there at least used to be native one? | 21:03 |
| Ischwitz | yes, there is | 21:03 |
| Dr_Cain | well I'd like a sailfish version of it | 21:03 |
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| Dr_Cain | but tapchat is a bit special since it connects to a backend which in turn connects to the irc server or irssi-proxy in my case | 21:03 |
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| Ischwitz | okay, understandable | 21:04 |
| Smar | what’s wrong with ssh/mosh then ;) | 21:04 |
| Dr_Cain | I used that on my n900 quite a lot :) | 21:05 |
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| Dr_Cain | but kind of annoying without a hardware keyboard | 21:05 |
| Smar | and some android software is better? | 21:05 |
| Dr_Cain | in my case yeah, even has push notifications if someone mentions you | 21:05 |
| Ischwitz | build tohkbd | 21:05 |
| Dr_Cain | heh | 21:06 |
| Dr_Cain | that'd be nice | 21:06 |
| Dr_Cain | then I could use it as a n900 again | 21:06 |
| Smar | push notification could be done with irssi too | 21:06 |
| Ischwitz | well why not | 21:06 |
| M4rtinK | I have a hardware keyboard on my Jolla ;-) | 21:06 |
| Dr_Cain | nice | 21:06 |
| Ischwitz | I'm thinking of buildin one | 21:06 |
| Smar | but I mean, fingerterm keyboard is tons better than the native jolla keyboard | 21:06 |
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| Smar | tohkbd is nice tho ;) | 21:07 |
| carepack | Smar: mosh / ssh consumes to much batter if connection established and connected... | 21:07 |
| carepack | and stays connected | 21:07 |
| Dr_Cain | it's nice but still uses screen space, I'd rather have a hardware keyboard for serious typing | 21:07 |
| Ingvix | filecase is so far the best filemanager I've used | 21:07 |
| Smar | carepack: okay :D I actually was surprised how little battery it ate when I forgot it background | 21:08 |
| Smar | but it wasn’t in irssi mode, got detached as I got to other comp :) | 21:08 |
| Dr_Cain | :) | 21:09 |
| carepack | Smar: :D | 21:09 |
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| Ingvix | any one know a music player that actually can play upnp music library? | 21:13 |
| Ingvix | the filemanagers can do that but it'd be nicer if I could actually use it as a playlist | 21:15 |
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| Ingvix | ok, found one | 21:31 |
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| Dr_Cain | which one? | 21:38 |
| Ingvix | quasarmx lite | 21:40 |
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| Ingvix | tho its the kind that needs to be updated to pro version to have all features | 21:42 |
| Dr_Cain | oh | 21:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | quasarmx is the most feature filled player for sailfish | 21:44 |
| Dr_Cain | I have a subsonic server running back home so I need something that can connect to that | 21:44 |
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| Ingvix | I just have a fairly large music library so it takes quite some time to get it to the app | 21:48 |
| Ingvix | if I'm scanning it as a whole | 21:48 |
| Dr_Cain | I have several terrabytes, so I just stream what I want to listen to via subsonic | 21:48 |
| Ingvix | that's quita a sum of sound | 21:48 |
| Dr_Cain | but yeah, I have to use an android app for that too | 21:48 |
| Dr_Cain | yeah most of it is in FLAC, lol | 21:49 |
| r0kk3rz | need a daap player | 21:49 |
| Dr_Cain | but subsonic can transcode to ogg before transferring it | 21:49 |
| Dr_Cain | so it won't rape your 4g cap | 21:49 |
| Ingvix | 13% scanned | 21:50 |
| * Dr_Cain updates from Björnträsket | 21:50 | |
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| bluszcz | sorry for weird question, but python 3 is ok in jolla? | 21:59 |
| bluszcz | s/jolla/sailfishos | 21:59 |
| M4rtinK | bluszcz: sure | 22:03 |
| M4rtinK | bluszcz: actually only 3 :) | 22:03 |
| bluszcz | M4rtinK: Thank you. | 22:04 |
| M4rtinK | np :) | 22:04 |
| Ingvix | uh, which one would be better at sharing, sbm or upnp? | 22:07 |
| Ingvix | faster that is | 22:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | i expect they would be all fairly similar | 22:19 |
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| Dr_Cain | finally downloading 2.0.0.10 | 22:20 |
| Dr_Cain | that took 5 firmware jumps or something | 22:20 |
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