Wednesday, 2015-09-09

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coderuslol, when i'm running app in gdb it receiving SIGILL00:19
coderusProgram received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.00:19
coderus0x40bb4408 in _armv7_tick () from /lib/libcrypto.so.1000:19
coderusbefore even loaded00:19
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tortoisedocsup10:41
tortoisedocsf os 1.1.9 ea release today?10:41
* Stskeeps grabs a coi10:41
Stskeepsn10:41
* tortoisedoc crosses fingers10:41
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Accetails or heads?10:43
Yanielwhat do we say to 1.1.9?10:48
Yanielnot today10:48
Nicd-I'm rsyncing a backup of my phone currently10:50
Nicd-gonna factory reset it while waiting for 1.1.9 EA10:50
Nicd-maybe it'll fix some bugs10:50
jaacoppiI wonder when 1.1.9 is cancelled and 1.1.10 announced10:50
Yanielhaha10:50
locusf:D10:51
Nicd-hmmmm10:52
Nicd-I have dpurgin's call recorder and the UI only shows me 5 saved calls... but the filesystem has all my calls since april10:52
Nicd-so deleting them from the UI doesn't really delete them10:53
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Nicd-my calls were using 1.4 GB of space on my phone11:08
Nicd-in secret11:09
Nicd-so protip: don't trust the call recorder :P11:09
Bysmyyrhmm, should I check that?11:09
ttyp0just waiting for NSA or similar to pick them up11:09
Tegumaybe they have picked them up already11:10
Nicd-Bysmyyr: check .local/share/kz.dpurgin/callrecorder/data or something like that11:10
Tegueven without a call recorder11:10
BysmyyrNicd-: empty11:11
Bysmyyrbut I have cahnged tha folder, lets see11:12
Bysmyyr900M11:13
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coderusjaacoppi: 1.1.10.x impossible :D11:46
coderus1.2.0.1 next after 1.1.9.x :)11:46
SfietKonstantinWcoderus:sure about that ?11:47
SfietKonstantinW:D11:47
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coderussure11:48
jaacoppiwe're using a base 10 number system, it can go up to eleven11:53
urjamanhuh11:54
coderusjaacoppi: say it to 1.0.10.x release :D11:54
lainwir3d jaacoppi: that's one more right ?11:55
urjamanbase 11 could go up to 10 (with a "single number")11:56
lainwir3d"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven"11:56
jaacoppiyeah, from ten, where can you go, except to eleven?11:57
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jaacoppiseriously though coderus, what's stopping Jolla from using >9 in version numbers? Linux has 3.14.51, Lilo has 24.1, Windows had 95 before 10 and so on12:02
TemeVI think they don't have 1.9.10 branch but 1.2 is the next one12:06
TemeV*1.10 branch12:06
coderusjaacoppijust because we didn't seen 1.0.10.x version12:06
TemeVwhat am I typing...12:06
TemeVversion numbers seemt to be too hard for me, maybe I'll just shut up :)12:06
Atomim_why have dots if it was base 10 :P12:08
Atomim_they are there to let versions go over 10 without confusing :)12:08
Atomim_but no problem if they never have to go that high12:09
urjamango above 255 and you'll break code (i just saw somebody parse the version string with an IPv4 parser ...)12:09
Atomim_haha12:09
Nicd-what :D12:09
urjamanhttps://github.com/kimmoli/tohkbd2/commit/9506ede0065a9b08c1b43bd704dedd94ffe1966c#diff-1e41462c2a5b49e70a124e28a5f38dcaR129112:10
urjamanbefore this i'd have suggested to get out of the 4-number versions business because they look too much like IPs but ...lol12:11
urjamanjust make 1.2 => 2.0 and then go 2.0.x,2.1.x ... like linux but with 2 instead of 312:12
lainwir3dThat's actually quite clever12:12
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lainwir3dlol12:12
Atomim_won't be a problem with this release pace12:12
coderusjust make a surprise with 1.1.10.xx version :D12:13
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kimmoliurjaman, that...works until 1.1.9.25612:14
urjamanheh12:14
Atomim_if it doesn't check for limits, it could work until 257 before losing order12:15
tbrurjaman: no problem. I'll use an IPv6 parser ;)12:16
urjamanI dont want an  IPv6-looking version number12:17
urjaman(might as well use a git commit hash at that point)12:17
tbrpfff, spoil sport12:17
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kimmolibut, suprised that someone reviews(reads) my coding..12:25
urjamani merged your stuff to mine yesterday i think and did git log -p to see if i needed to change anything12:27
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urjamanthere's one thing i havent yet investigated (guess only my phone environment) which is that if i boot the phone the kbd thingy cant find the fi mapping (and so just reports attach/detach but no keys work), but after a make install && ./restart.sh it works12:29
urjamanwhich just seems ????12:29
kimmolihm öh12:29
kimmolimaybe it is still finding nemo when daemon starts12:30
kimmoliand layout is in nemo dconf12:30
kimmolidunno. have to check.12:31
urjamanwell the log message says something about it wanting the fi layout but it doesnt exist12:31
urjamanso it knew what layout it needed but didnt have actual data12:31
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kimmolican you pastebin the logs?12:32
urjamanbut i'll look at it after the next reboot if i have the time12:32
urjamansorry propably lost in time12:32
urjamani'll check though12:32
kimmoliinfinite journals ftw12:32
urjamanyeah i only have log for today and the phone has been up some 11 days12:33
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Atomim_kimmoli: I used to read most of the commits until I got my jolla repaired12:39
Atomim_soon after I got tohkbd :P12:39
Atomim_got it back two weeks ago12:40
urjamani did one fix commit to the thing i showed last (fixing the output of pressing multiple keys without releasing a key...), but still need to investigate the repeat12:40
urjamanand you slightly random channel but whatever12:40
urjaman*yup12:40
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coderushttps://together.jolla.com/question/107685/release-notes-119eineheminlampi-early-access/12:57
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coderushttps://together.jolla.com/question/107684/changelog-119eineheminlampi/12:59
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Wntwhat, the yalready released 1.1.9.28 to early access? I used the ssu repo changing trick to update mine few days ago, and it has been very unstable13:01
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coderuswhat is unstable? works for me.13:02
StskeepsWnt: well, ssu repo changing trick can cause unfortunate sideeffects..13:02
Yanielyay, update notification13:02
coderusStskeeps: any info why ssu mode change not working in cli?13:03
Wntthe browser and email with HTML has had bad rendering issues on my device13:03
coderusit may help a lot13:03
Stskeepscoderus: i don't know13:04
coderusit worked before 1.1.5.x release or so13:04
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coderusand then stopped working13:04
Wntalso android applications have been unstable13:04
coderusWnt: android is always unstable after update13:04
coderusStskeeps: because ssu mode 16 before version --dup may save lives13:05
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WntI think I'll reset the device anyway and send it in for a display repair13:08
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coderusoh display repair, good luck!13:11
coderuslet me know if they have displays now :)13:11
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anYchmpf, the update download always restarts with a unstable wifi connection :/13:31
xfade_anYc: Well, that is just a graphical thing. It actually just refreshes the repos and continues to download.13:33
xfade_It just resets the progress and maps the remaining downloads over the 100% range.13:33
anYcuh okay, I thought it downloads the repos while checking for a new update13:35
anYcthanks13:35
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xfade_works for me ;)13:57
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Sail0ris it really the case or am I just to stupid :D https://together.jolla.com/question/107784/twitter-feed-disappeared-in-11928/15:53
haBuu"Feeds support for Facebook and Twitter accounts are temporarily unavailable (will be re-introduced in the next release)"15:54
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Sailor-2gethersorry osx crashed15:55
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Sailor-2getherif someone answered anything15:55
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haBuu[18:53:54] <haBuu> "Feeds support for Facebook and Twitter accounts are temporarily unavailable (will be re-introduced in the next release)"15:56
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Vae_DuckZfor me sending tweets doesn't work anymore15:58
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Whipplersome things are huge pain in 1.9 how the f do i silence the phone15:58
Sailor-2getherhaBuu: thx sorry over read that ;)15:59
Whipplerlockscreen pulldown was great for silencing..15:59
haBuuyes it was...16:00
coderusedge pull down and select Silent ambience16:00
haBuui removed all ambiences and left silence and "normal"16:00
haBuuits not as good but gets the job done16:00
Whipplerunlocking is HUGE pain, swiping UP is a lot more ergonomic for me16:00
Whipplerbut i dont want to change my wallpaper...16:01
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haBuusame wallpaper for both16:01
Vae_DuckZwait a second, 1.9? I have 1.1.7.28, did I miss 7 minor versions in the past 8 days??16:01
haBuu1.1.916:01
Vae_DuckZah16:02
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Vae_DuckZstill, no 1.1.8?16:02
urjamanskipped16:02
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Whipplerso how do i get the data, wifi, gps etc status back on the settings app cover16:03
coderusWhippler: downgrade to 1.1.7.2816:04
Whipplerand wheres my nice scrolling wallpaper... i ques. but the new android notification integration is nice16:05
coderuslook like at the new OS16:05
coderusdo not compare16:05
Vae_DuckZso is the new update bad?16:06
coderusits different16:06
Sailor-2getherit's normal16:06
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Whipplersome things are really bad, few good things16:06
coderusget used to16:06
Vae_DuckZok but is it bad? I see you can't even silence your phone16:06
Sail0rnot much difference to some android launchers anymore16:06
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Sail0runlocking sucks16:07
Vae_DuckZdid they remove double tapping to unlock?16:07
WhipplerSail0r: yep16:07
Sail0ryes16:07
Sail0ryou always have to double tap16:07
Sail0rand swipe right or left16:07
Sail0rand the animation of that is slow16:07
Whipplerswipe r/l is pain16:08
coderus:D16:08
Sail0rand it's not locking anymore with one swipe16:08
Sail0ryou need swipe and touch16:08
WhipplerVae_DuckZ: double tap wake is still here16:08
Sail0rbut this was known16:08
coderusits new OS16:08
coderusitsnot update ;016:08
coderus;)16:08
Whippleryah cant lock the damn thing16:08
Vae_DuckZhm16:09
Sail0rdid you notice that even while locked16:09
Sail0ryou can select a ambience16:09
Vae_DuckZas long as it's usable I don't mind, but I'm expecting improvements and new features, not missing stuff16:09
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TemeVSail0r: I think it is a good thing. No need to type in the code to change ambience16:10
TemeVI don't see any security issue there16:10
Sail0rnow I always open the ambiences instead of unlocking phone16:10
Whipplernew notification popups are ugly, old one ws nice16:10
Sail0r:D16:11
Sail0ryep the new notifications are strange16:11
coderushow do you open ambiences instead of UNLOCKING phone?16:11
Sail0rI don't know :D fat fingers? :D16:12
coderuswhy you swiping from top for unlocking phone? in previous version you need to swipe up, not down16:12
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Vae_DuckZlike this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqjF7HKSaaI16:13
Sail0rok a half swipe down gives the menu known from before update while in lockscreen16:13
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Sail0rcoderus: no I swipe side ways but my hand is not that big16:13
Sail0rso I swipe not straight but touch to close to the top16:13
Sail0r^^16:13
Sail0rso always the ambiences open16:14
Sail0rinstead of unlocking ^^16:14
coderuswow :D16:14
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yrjothe only frustrating thing for me is the small delay animation when unlocking, otherwise I'm glad I can still close my apps with swiping down16:20
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YanielIMHO the GUI has got something that it has been lacking16:22
Yanielfeels more... lively?16:22
Sail0ryeah, except for unlocking everything else i will get used to16:22
yrjothe animations feel smoother overall16:23
haBuui like the new ui16:23
haBuujust a few problems16:23
haBuubut they should be easy to fix16:24
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r0kk3rzits sailfishos, nothing is set in concrete16:32
r0kk3rzit will change16:32
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Yanieleverything.... fluctuates16:33
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m4g0ghi, guys16:43
m4g0gwhat about last early update - is it daily usable?16:43
r0kk3rzi hope so.... otherwise i'll be in trouble16:44
r0kk3rzyeah i would imagine to m4g0g, they usually arent that broken16:44
m4g0gand what about sdk update? Is it necessary for app developing for this release?16:44
coderusm4g0g: sdk should appear soon16:47
r0kk3rzm4g0g: look though the changelog for changes in anything you're using in your apps16:48
m4g0gcoderus: should I need to do changes in app between previous and this release? Or I can continue developing on last sdk and use updated jolla to.test?16:50
coderusm4g0g: changes are only in silica components16:52
m4g0gr0kk3rz: i read it and doesn't see any problems, but i so big amount of patches confusinv me16:52
coderusmost of things works16:52
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m4g0ggood16:52
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datakurreWow. Force large covers patch is nice.16:56
r0kk3rzwonder how it works with the scrolling screen16:58
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r0kk3rzanyone use arch linux here?17:03
urjamanyes, though not on the phone :P17:04
r0kk3rznaturally17:04
r0kk3rzworks ok with the sfos sdk?17:04
urjamanhavent tried in a long long time but i did once install the SDK and afaik it worked so i guess17:05
urjaman(i'm just the kind of person that hacks on the phone...)17:05
r0kk3rzfair enough17:06
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r0kk3rztheres no reason why it cant work, its only using qtcreator and vbox17:06
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Yanielit used to work at least17:09
Yanielhaven't tried for some time17:09
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r0kk3rzwill be a while till i get it all set up anyway17:10
r0kk3rznever tried installing arch before17:10
r0kk3rzseems a bit different to the other major distros17:10
urjamanyeah i'll be of no help in that, since i havent actually installed it in like 5 years :P17:11
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Yaniel"a bit"17:11
coderusr0kk3rz: too vew vbox probably?17:11
urjaman(for some livecd / fast-arch-install purposes i used ArchBang)17:12
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urjamannew?17:12
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urjamanyou'll propably find an older one in aur then :P17:12
r0kk3rzold version can likely be installed, i remember reading something about that before17:12
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coderus4.3.20 or so17:18
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coderushow to generate a number between 52036560683837106446 and 1851136666949614828864?17:25
urjaman(a+b)/217:26
coderus? :D17:27
urjamangives you a number between a and b :P, though you'd propably need to have bigger-than-32bit int for those numbers17:27
urjaman"propably" :P17:28
r0kk3rzint randNum = rand()%(max-min + 1) + min;17:28
coderusthis is actually 12 digits base62 number17:28
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RoshanHi .. i want to try jolla on nexus 4.. thanks to phoronix news site..17:31
r0kk3rzRoshan: then do?17:31
Roshani have android 5.1.1..17:31
Roshansfe or sfa??17:31
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Roshanwhats difference bw sfe and sfa?17:32
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r0kk3rzprobably best to talk to the guys in #sailfishos-porters for specifics17:33
Roshanthanks alot :)17:33
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baltaHi, I've stuck at the problem described here: https://together.jolla.com/question/107736/119eineheminlampi-early-access-stuck-at-the-origami-bird-after-update/ Sadly the Jolla is not even connected to the WLAN, so I cannot access it using SSH. If I connect the USB-cable it just shows a message that I have to unlock the device first. How can I access the terminal now?17:34
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MoritzJTI'm looking to reset my device prior to updating to the pre-release of today. What's the most effective way? I was thinking of recovery reset or even btrfs recovery. Is this an option again?17:39
Nicd-why not reset from settings?17:39
MoritzJTI also want to delete any btrfs snapshots that accumulated.17:40
MoritzJTI would love to know the difference between reset via settingsUI and recovery reset17:40
MoritzJTWill any system modifications also be reset or only user data stuff?17:40
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tortoisedoc_hmhm17:44
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MoritzJTDoes anyone know the difference?17:45
tortoisedoc_MoritzJT : to?17:45
MoritzJTI'm looking to reset my device prior to updating to the pre-release of today. What's the most effective way? I was thinking of recovery reset or even btrfs recovery. Is this an option again? [19:39] <Nicd-> why not reset from settings? [19:40] <MoritzJT> I also want to delete any btrfs snapshots that accumulated. [19:40] <MoritzJT> I would love to know the difference between reset via settingsUI and recovery reset [19:40] <Mor17:45
MoritzJTalso be reset or only user data stuff?17:46
tortoisedoc_well, you'd assume factory reset does it's job and wipes everything, including brtfs snapshots17:46
MoritzJTThen I will not go into recovery console and use the system UI way.17:48
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tortoisedoc_grrr17:49
tortoisedoc_how do i find silica's theme ambience color for bacgrounds??17:49
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giucambalta: there's a trick you can do to make it enable ssh on the usb without needing to unlock it17:52
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giucamgo to recovery mode, mount the root partition and edit /lib/system/usb-moded.service17:53
giucamadd a -r to the end of the exec line17:53
giucamreboot17:53
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giucamsorry, /usr/systemd/system/usb-moded.service17:54
giucamargh17:54
giucam/lib/systemd/system/usb-moded.service17:54
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baltathanks, I can connect now :)18:03
baltanow I have to see what's wrong...18:03
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Sail0rnow I know what I am missing18:11
baltaSadly there is no internet connection, yet. So I cannot try to run a version -dup... Do you have any ideas what I can try?18:12
Sail0rthe shortcuts on the homescreen my browser is gone :D18:12
giucambalta: save your data, to begin with :P18:12
baltaI will do.... and after that? Anything besides a factory reset?18:15
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MoritzJTis there a max filesize limit for files transferred to the phones SD card while using MTP? I have my card formatted as f2fs and it should support large files, however mtp reports otherwise.18:19
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tortoisedoc_Stskeeps : I guess your coin flipped on the correct side given there was the update? ;)18:27
tortoisedoc_was it tail or head?18:27
Stskeepstortoisedoc_: i knew the outcome already18:27
Stskeeps:P18:27
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tortoisedoc_Stskeeps : :D18:30
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coderusgiucam: dont do this way18:44
coderusinstall usb-moded-systemd-rescue-mode18:44
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baltacoderus: that was a tip for me... How should I have installed something in recovery? I'm not even having a wlan connection now after that "hack" in my broken system state :( Do you have any tips for my problem?18:52
baltaI have only an origami bird and can only run your power menu after boot ;)18:53
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coderushttps://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-computer-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/18:56
coderusbalta: what hack broken system?18:57
baltaI have the problem that after the update to 1.1.9 I get only an origami bird and cannot do anything. Thanks to giucam I can now SSH through USB to my device in that state, I needed the tip (adding -r to usb-moded.service in recovery mode)  because I had set a device lock and Jolla does not allow to connect through USB without the device unlocked.19:00
baltathe only app working in that state is your power menu ;)19:00
giucambalta: the journal is likely to tell something19:01
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coderusbalta: now do pkcon install lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 jolla-settings jolla-settings-system19:02
baltathe journal is telling a lot, mostly about aliendalvik, I'm still reading :D19:03
coderusafter installing do systemctl --user restart lipstick19:03
coderusand it will work19:03
baltahow can I connect my WLAN to do installing something?19:03
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coderusyou not connected to any network wifi/3g?19:04
baltasadly no... 3g cannot work as I was not able to enter my pin, but wifi is disconnected also19:05
coderusyour pc is linux or windows?19:05
baltaLinux19:06
baltacan I route through USB? :)19:06
coderushttps://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-computer-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/19:06
coderusyes19:06
coderusread it carefully to the end19:06
coderusadd route19:06
coderusadd nameserver19:06
coderusand it should work19:06
coderusenable ip forwarding on pc of course19:07
coderusbut replace ip with 192.168.2.1419:07
coderusso basically:19:07
coderusecho "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf19:07
coderusroute add default gw 192.168.2.1419:07
coderusand on pc:19:08
coderussysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=119:08
coderusiptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE19:08
coderusand ping google.com should work19:08
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baltano it's not working directly... I think something about the suse firewall...19:14
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baltano it was the wrong ip... I needed 192.168.2.1 :)19:19
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baltathere are dependency problems running pkcon... translated from german: jolla-settings-layout-0.11.76.1-10.38.1.jolla.armv7hl needs jolla-settings = 0.11.76.1-10.38.1.jolla but cannot be found and lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.24.68.4-10.83.5.jolla.armv7hl needs lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-components = 0.24.68.4-10.83.5.jolla that cannot be found19:23
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baltazypper can resolve it :)19:25
baltabut after that and restarting lipstick I get only a white screen over and over again... there have to be other parts missing19:27
baltazypper dup will update 52 more packages...19:28
baltabut cannot install because of the store credentials... shuold I try version --dup19:29
balta?19:29
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coderusbalta: pkcon refresh19:33
coderusand do command again19:33
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baltapkcon refresh is also complaining about missing store credentials :(19:45
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cfb014Hi!! I update to 1.1.9.28 today. I've restart my jolla, and level battery, clock, signal Wifi and 4G has disappeared from homescreen20:12
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cfb014can anybody help me?20:13
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tortoisedoc_hmm20:14
tortoisedoc_from homescreen you mean task switcher?20:14
cfb014yes20:14
tortoisedoc_interesting20:15
tortoisedoc_cant help, sorry20:15
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cfb014Thank you anyway20:16
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wyrdathruSo with the new Jolla tablet launch, did a new version of the OS come too?20:20
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tortoisedoc_hmhm20:22
tortoisedoc_is it just me20:22
tortoisedoc_or is Theme.secondaryColor always 0xFFFFFF ??20:22
Yanielwyrdathru: 1.1.9 was released to early access today and it has some of the sailfishos2.0 ui20:24
wyrdathruNice.20:25
Yanielindeed20:25
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Yanielfeels smooth and fluid.. like a fish20:25
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tortoisedoc_is there a way to get the color of the ambience at all from silica?20:25
ilpianistayep, but maybe there are too many animations now20:26
ilpianistatortoisedoc_: Theme.x should be the way20:26
tortoisedoc_Theme.x?20:26
ilpianistasorry by x I mean some property in Theme :-P20:26
baltalipstick.service is still failing for me... where can I get log output for this service? the journal is empty... :(20:26
ilpianistahttps://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/silica/qml-sailfishsilica-theme.html/20:27
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tortoisedoc_ilpianista : been there, tried that, no luck (aka white color only)20:28
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ilpianistatortoisedoc_: PageHeader and SectionHeader seems to use ambience color, I'm wrong?20:29
ilpianistaif so, their color is Theme.highlightColor20:29
tortoisedoc_ilpianista : background color?20:30
ilpianistano, foreground color20:30
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* tortoisedoc_ gonna give it a show20:33
tortoisedoc_*shot :P20:34
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baltastarting lipstick from the shell shows: [C] unknown:0 - Failed to create display (No such file or directory)20:52
baltaso what could be wrong? :(20:52
r0kk3rzbalta: jolla phone?20:55
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baltayes20:58
r0kk3rz:/20:58
baltaafter updating to 1.1.920:58
r0kk3rzpatchmanager?20:58
Yanielthis must be that wayland instability I've heard of20:58
baltayes but all patches were disabled20:58
r0kk3rzthat should be ok then20:59
baltaafter that I had the problem described here: https://together.jolla.com/question/107736/119eineheminlampi-early-access-stuck-at-the-origami-bird-after-update/20:59
r0kk3rzprobably best to contact care about it20:59
r0kk3rzso they can understand why it borked20:59
baltaand after a version --dup I now have the problem that lipstick is failing20:59
r0kk3rzor TJC it21:00
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baltaso I'm preparing my first factory reset... :(21:03
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ilpianistaYaniel: did you ever managed to fix your caldav sync?21:09
Yanielmy raspi broke21:09
Yanielie. no21:09
ilpianista:-(21:09
ilpianistaI'm stuck with the same 401 "Network request failed with QNetworkReply::NetworkError: 299"21:09
YanielI did have it working pretty well at some point though21:13
coderusbalta: to start lipstick from shell you need to source environment file21:13
Yanielbut I can't remember how long it lasted21:13
baltacoderus: thanks, so this is not the cause for the systemd service of lipstick failing? :)21:14
baltaI do not get the service started after all my pkcon and version --dup try and error games... :(21:15
baltasomething seems to be missing... always about missing store credentials... but version --dup seems to have updated a lot of packages21:17
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baltaah... the specified EnvironmentFile (/var/lib/environment/compositor/*.conf) does not exist...21:21
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baltathat folder is completely empty21:23
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m4g0goh21:32
m4g0gbuttons are awful21:32
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m4g0galmost all applications should be updated after this release due to buttons ui changes ^-(21:35
m4g0g:-(21:35
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tortoisedoc_yep21:37
tortoisedoc_plus other 1000 things21:37
tortoisedoc_under the hood21:37
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tortoisedoc_(well depending on what kind of app we are talking about)21:37
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coderusbalta: reinstall sbj-configs23:12
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