Monday, 2015-08-31

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BBLobste_Hi, did someone work with valgrind in Qt? I tried to use it with simulator, but with no success00:19
BBLobste_It shows me a dialog with several network connections, but no one works00:19
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tortoisedocdumdum06:56
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tortoisedocis the 1.1.9.26 available for phone as well?07:18
tortoisedocor just tablet?07:18
Nicd-for phone, but not yet07:18
Nicd-2.0 will be available for the phone at the same time as the tablet afaik07:18
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tortoisedocon the reviewjolla07:21
tortoisedocit states 1.1.9.x is in early access already07:21
tortoisedocso i guess it should be available for phone as well?07:22
Nicd-it's not07:22
Nicd-where does it say that?07:22
tortoisedochttp://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/2015/08/sailfish-os-20-delays.html#more07:23
tortoisedocquote : " current state of development in Jolla's internal testing. Last known test version is Sailfish OS 1.1.9.26 Eineheminlampi"07:23
YanielLast known does not mean latest released07:23
Nicd-yeah, "Jolla's internal testing"07:23
urjamannot in the early access we mortals can get07:23
Yanielpeople have figured out release numbers and names months in advance before07:23
Yanielby poking around with zypper/pkcon07:24
tortoisedocyes, but my point is the next lines07:24
tortoisedoc"- released already for closed cbeta group,"07:24
Nicd-but ea is not cbeta07:24
Yanielthat would probably be the tablet devs07:24
tortoisedocso cbeta is not ea :P07:24
urjamanyeah cbeta is earlier than ea07:24
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coderuscbeta is closed stuff, the thing where you writing username and password in developer mode settings07:39
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urjamanthat just seems somewhat wrong really tbh (wheres the open source spirit? :( )07:47
daithefluHi07:47
tbranyone can rebuild opensource components with own or upstream changes and install them07:48
tbrthat seems to be about the decidedly closed source proprietary parts of sailfishos07:48
Stskeepsurjaman: given that those updates has a tendancy to brick devices..07:48
Stskeeps:P07:48
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urjamani have the tendency to 'brick' (temporarily)  my device accidentally...07:51
urjamanthe ui isnt very robust..07:52
Stskeepsbut anyway, we constantly push the envelope on what we can do, such as the early access releases07:53
Yanielis 1.1.7 out of ea yet?07:53
StskeepsYaniel: hopefully soon, it's like a overdue birth07:53
urjamancant boot the device to a commandline on the lcd or smth (recovery mode is ok but needs usb cable and pc)07:53
Skorpycurrently updating to 1.1.7. https://together.jolla.com/question/99054/bug-update-to-117-hang-at-95-99/07:55
Skorpyshould I really wait for 2 hours?07:55
Skorpyit's been at ~99% for more than 30 minutes already07:55
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Skorpyyup. rebooted and did what was said on the tjc question. seems to work fine08:08
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usimhaHello! I was wondering if Sailfish still has support for Nexus 4 mako? If so, where can I find the required resources? Thank you!08:19
Stskeeps#sailfishos-porters08:19
Stskeeps, usimha08:19
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usimhaStskeeps: Thanks a lot! :)08:20
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chriadamSkorpy: by "what was said on the tjc question" did you mean deleting the /home/nemo/.cache/store-client/os-info file, or something else?08:26
Skorpychriadam: exactly that08:27
chriadamthanks for the information08:27
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tortoisedocStskeeps : opensourced development should help with fixing issues faster no?09:51
Coolgeekinstalling the update...09:52
tbrtortoisedoc: that is what mer/nemo is/was intended for. I consider this a largelly failed attempt due to prohibitive barriers of entry, especially the botched "merge" that's at 1.5 years and counting.09:55
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tortoisedochuh, is it me or do I smell antagonism :D09:56
* tortoisedoc ducks09:56
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tbrtortoisedoc: easily mistaken, it's frustration09:57
tbrthe whole HADK thing is a very good example of how you can do things and general benfits though.09:57
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zGrrmoin :)09:59
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tortoisedocyeah I think especially the harbour has benefitted from the HADK (as in terms of downloads)09:59
tortoisedoc(or at least i'd imagine that)10:00
r0kk3rzbe interesting to see any stats they have on ports in use10:00
tortoisedocyeah10:02
tortoisedoclike a piechart of devices10:02
tortoisedocin percentages10:02
tortoisedocthat shouldnt collide with the internal policy of keeping numbers secret10:03
zGrryeah, secrecy10:05
mal-now that store is available in some ports it would be quite easy see from account info how many individual devices of specific type are in use, of course at the moment only some ports have store enabled10:05
r0kk3rzwell, they already track app downloads, tracking app downloads and device type seems logical10:05
r0kk3rzuseful information for harbour developers, to know which devices to target10:06
tortoisedocim pretty sure they already dy10:06
tortoisedoc*do10:06
mal-also interesting for me as a porter to see how many are using it10:06
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r0kk3rzexactly10:07
r0kk3rzgive the porters some motivation10:07
tortoisedocmal- : there is active downloads10:07
tortoisedoccurrently10:07
tortoisedocthat works fine for me so far :)10:07
mal-tortoisedoc: ?10:07
tortoisedocmal- : active INSTALLS, that is10:07
mal-what do you mean?10:08
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tortoisedocmal- : for each app, you see how many downloads are actually activ10:11
mal-ok10:11
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kenguis there a way to see the network tranfer usage of apps?10:48
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ilpianistaanyone using owncloud 8.1.1 and caldav on jolla?12:56
ilpianistamy calendars aren't shown12:57
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locusfhow could I create a tun interface with connman?13:13
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Vae_DuckZomg this last 1% must be the longest 1% ever14:20
Vae_DuckZI didn't count pixels but I would swear it's 0.9% now14:21
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Vae_DuckZyay, I'm in the updated sf! :)14:22
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Vae_DuckZ......aaaaand I still can't enable dev mode :(14:27
Vae_DuckZah no it's working this time14:27
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Vae_DuckZyeah, dev mode enabled :)14:27
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* SfietKonstantinW shivers when Antti Saarnio retweets my tweet17:13
SfietKonstantinWs17:13
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r0kk3rzno pressure SfietKonstantinW17:24
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SfietKonstantinW:D17:24
SfietKonstantinWbut what if your app sucks ?17:25
SfietKonstantinW:(17:25
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r0kk3rzobviously you already have one high profile customer17:26
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r0kk3rzmaybe i should float that idea to cybette, a blog post about third-party sailfish apps that the jolla staff uses17:32
SfietKonstantinW:)17:35
SfietKonstantinWnice idea17:35
* SfietKonstantinW shoudl work on Friends17:36
* SfietKonstantinW finds Facebook really annoying to work with17:36
r0kk3rzsince becoming employed again my personal projects have slowed down a lot also17:36
r0kk3rzbut i guess thats the nature of developing free apps, its beholden to your whims and wants17:38
SfietKonstantinWr0kk3rz: same17:40
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lukedirtwalkerhmm is it normal that if I have a ListItem delegate which does something onClicked and if I use this delegate and define onClicked differently that both onClicked are executed?21:39
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lukedirtwalkerhmm seems to be the case21:47
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jorbbHello.23:32
jorbb~help23:34
jorbbhow many of you are bots in that list?23:34
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jorbbTwo bots down.23:36
jorbb:-D23:36
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jorbbHopefully I'm in the correct room. I'm reading through the SailfishOS Hardware Adaptation Dev Kit and it is mentioning that CyanogenMod should be installed. Does SailfishOS run on top of CyanogenMod?23:42
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jorbbIt appears that CyanogenMod is installed just to build the source... or am I wrong?23:45
jorbb...anyone?23:51
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urjaman#sailfishos-porters23:55
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mal-he already left, I was just about to write the same thing when ne left23:58

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