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| daitheflu | Hi | 07:37 |
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| zoldyck_clone | is 1.1.7 released for everyone? | 08:12 |
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| daitheflu | zoldyck_clone: nope | 08:20 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 08:36 |
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| coderus | there is no harm to join early upgrade | 09:40 |
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| chem|st | coderus: as long as you wait for brave people to upgrade first and tell what it buggy ;) | 09:43 |
| chem|st | s/it/is/ | 09:44 |
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| coderus | there are no any critical bugs | 10:00 |
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| chem|st | true | 10:08 |
| chem|st | at least non I'd care about ;) | 10:08 |
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| zoldyck_clone | does anyone know ETA for Sailfish 2.0 on the phone? | 10:11 |
| chem|st | zoldyck_clone: s00n™ | 10:11 |
| stephg | er, s00n? | 10:11 |
| stephg | haha | 10:11 |
| chem|st | we really need to register it as an official Jolla™ and have the next device called Soon | 10:12 |
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| chem|st | or even S00N™ | 10:13 |
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| chem|st | zoldyck_clone: looking at the usual timeline, .7 was early accessed 15th July so 15thAug would be .8 EA and 15thSep .9 EA | 10:15 |
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| chem|st | so I'd guess in the next 2-3 weeks?! | 10:16 |
| zoldyck_clone | .9 == 2.0? | 10:17 |
| Yaniel | I'd call it kind of 2.0 beta | 10:17 |
| Yaniel | as next will ne 1.2.x | 10:17 |
| Yaniel | *be | 10:18 |
| zoldyck_clone | okay, 1.2 == 2.0 then | 10:18 |
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| Yaniel | 1.1.9 is supposed to have the new ui and x amount of the new features already | 10:20 |
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| coderus | zoldyck_clone: they said: "september" | 10:22 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : september 30th is also included in that :/ | 10:33 |
| coderus | http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2015-08-18.log.html#t2015-08-18T22:48:13 | 10:35 |
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| tortoisedoc | :D | 10:44 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : btw, do you happen to have a good drag&drop example in qml somewhere?= | 10:44 |
| tortoisedoc | Im fighting to get drag&drop working properly with listview items and it seems a tad more difficult than expected.. | 10:45 |
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| coderus | well no, never used d&d in my apps | 11:01 |
| coderus | you just need listview items drag like moving to other index? | 11:02 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : no I need list items to be drag and droppable into another item altogether | 11:38 |
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| nazanin | I guess I was pinged here a few days ago, and currently can't access the full backlog. So, whoever it was, ping me again :P | 12:09 |
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| zoldyck_clone | do we have specs on future phones with Sailfish (Intex, Snapdeal)? | 12:14 |
| zoldyck_clone | Jolla mentions that Snapdeal will get to integrate its app in a prominent location in the Sailfish OS interface | 12:14 |
| zoldyck_clone | I don't like this trend | 12:14 |
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| pykape | zoldyck_clone: if that is true, I don't like it either | 12:15 |
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| kimmoli | partnerspace? | 12:35 |
| wyrdathru | Out of interest, why does Sailfish OS need CM? Is it Android on some layer? | 12:36 |
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| TemeV | wyrdathru: It uses drivers etc HW adaptation stuff from CM | 12:38 |
| wyrdathru | Ahh, thanks TemeV. | 12:39 |
| tbr | wyrdathru: http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/%23sailfishos-porters.2015-08-13.log.html#t2015-08-13T13:46:42 | 12:41 |
| wyrdathru | Interesting, thanks tbr. I suppose it makes sense, rather than write all brand new libraries that work well enough as they are. | 12:44 |
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| chem|st | well enough as they are? there is a reason why no sane distribution uses HAL anymore and it is now refered to as android HAL | 13:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: HAL just means Hardware adaptation layer | 13:30 |
| Yaniel | on a scale of 0 to stagefright, how bad is it? | 13:30 |
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| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: abstraction | 13:32 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ? | 13:33 |
| chem|st | hardware abstraction layer | 13:35 |
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| chem|st | oh the quote on wikipedia is priceless: it has "become a large monolithic unmaintainable mess" | 13:36 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: it is unrelated | 13:38 |
| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: android HAL is not HAL you mean? | 13:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what you are talking about is HAL (software), here it is more about HAL (3 letter acronym) | 13:38 |
| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: android.com says abstraction layer... | 13:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Android HAL = a hardware adaptation layer, that adapts android drivers + hardware to a glibc based distribution | 13:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (ie libhybris and friends) | 13:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | HAL here only means hardware adaptation layer | 13:39 |
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| chem|st | https://source.android.com/devices/halref/ | 13:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | HAL as a software only exists in our collective memory, there is striclty 0 shared stuff | 13:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (IIRC) | 13:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: I can be wrong, but IIRC Android HAL or what it is called is a totally different beast compared to the Linux HAL | 13:40 |
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| chem|st | what is bionic? | 13:59 |
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| leszek | chem|st: the libc of android | 14:00 |
| wyrdathru | Such a lovely name. | 14:01 |
| wyrdathru | BIONIC | 14:01 |
| chem|st | found a graph for that showing for android it is bionic+shared libs, and for linux it is glibc+shared libs, while android shared libs is androidHAL | 14:01 |
| chem|st | on androidHAL is used by that JAVA shrug providing APIs to apps and on linux you can have a native C app use libs directly... | 14:03 |
| chem|st | did I understand that correctly? | 14:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: for the 1st part: bionic + shared lib vs glibc + sharedlib yes | 14:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | second part not sure | 14:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but basically yeah, the base system is different on android and linux | 14:05 |
| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: then it is basically the same | 14:06 |
| chem|st | what is above does not matter in this case does it | 14:07 |
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| leszek | would be nice if the devs would include this in a qt5 update very soon. It makes a night and day difference for webkit based browsers in terms of smooth scrolling: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/103250/4/src/gui/painting/qgrayraster.c | 15:34 |
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| attah | I'm getting invalid target when i try to build sailfish-browser (on the add repo step) any ideas on the pebkac? | 19:32 |
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| attah | It appears the target is named SailfishOS-i486, not SailfishOS-i486-x86 | 19:40 |
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| attah | Build still failed though.. but on /srv/mer/targets/SailfishOS-i486/usr/lib/libnemotransferengine-qt5.so: undefined reference to `QTransform::rotate(double, Qt::Axis)' | 19:41 |
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| coderus | reinstall? :D | 20:11 |
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