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| lainwir3d | \o | 11:42 |
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| Mikkosssss | Hello. I have problem with btrfs balance. Last night I noticed that I applications cant write to memory so I deleted some stuff and started btrfs balance. It has been running with 9% processor usage till now and btrfs status shows 2/20 and 90% still. I Tried to free up more space so it would run faster but I cant delete anything (error: no free space). I also tried to cancel btrfs balance but I still see it running on crest tas | 12:58 |
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| Kabouik | https://together.jolla.com/question/47686/option-sort-apps-into-folders-according-to-how-they-are-categorized-in-jollastore/ Is there any dev here working on that? A sort of catorise port, which would use the category tags used in Jolla Store or Open repos. | 13:13 |
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| Mikkosssss | Well anyone that did read my message and dont know answer would you please tell me who might know so I can wake them up? :P | 13:37 |
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| daitheflu | Mikkosssss: don't know, sorry :/ your best chance is probably to wait here, maybe search (or ask, if not already asked) on TJC | 13:58 |
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| Mikkosssss | Theres thread on TJC and ttried few things but didint work. Btrfs balance status shows now that it is cancelling so I try wait few hours and try delete stuff again. | 14:00 |
| daitheflu | Mikkosssss: I see, good luck with that | 14:04 |
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| Mikkosssss | Trying again "Hello. I have problem with btrfs balance. Last night I noticed that I applications cant write to memory so I deleted some stuff and started btrfs balance. It has been running with 9% processor usage till now and btrfs status shows 2/20 and 90% still. I Tried to free up more space so it would run faster but I cant delete anything (error: no free space). I also tried to cancel btrfs balance but I still see it runnin | 15:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Mikkosssss: let it run | 15:06 |
| leszek | Mikkosssss: cancel btrfs balance with the btrfs command ? | 15:06 |
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| leszek | If no. Try it. And if yes be patient :D | 15:06 |
| Mikkosssss | Did cancel and status says "cancel requested" | 15:07 |
| Mikkosssss | But I think I need my phone so I dont have 3 days to balance it | 15:07 |
| leszek | Mikkosssss: yeah it needs some time. | 15:07 |
| leszek | the cancel also | 15:08 |
| Mikkosssss | Been cancel requested now 3h | 15:08 |
| leszek | I guess by the end of this day it should be done | 15:08 |
| leszek | but this is not something you forcefully abort | 15:08 |
| leszek | so be patient. And for the reference in the future just do something like this on weekends or days you don't need your phone | 15:09 |
| Mikkosssss | after Its canceled I try install dalvik cleanup from warehouse and delete my music and try balance again | 15:09 |
| daitheflu | leszek: "days you don't need your phone" ? | 15:10 |
| Mikkosssss | I need my phone, so I cant let it balance for 3 days | 15:10 |
| Mikkosssss | sorry if bad english | 15:11 |
| Mikkosssss | oh didint read^ | 15:11 |
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| leszek | Mikkosssss: normally the balancing is not necessary as btrfs should do this automatically. And also there is a service file that actually balances the phone during night once a week or month or so. But if you are running out of space or having large junks of files removed it takes it times to release that freespace | 15:13 |
| leszek | thats just a limitation of btrees that btrfs uses | 15:13 |
| Mikkosssss | It should balance at tuesdays 3am but mine was already full when I noticed that nothing works | 15:14 |
| leszek | yeah this is also bad. What you could do then is trying to boot into recovery mode mount btrfs without cow to remove stuff (you won't get the no free space error then). But this is more like something for a linux pro not normal consumer | 15:15 |
| Mikkosssss | Ye I might need guide for that. I tried to delete files with echo < /file/ and cp /dev/null/ /file/ but I just get no free space error | 15:16 |
| leszek | yeah this is the cow. Because removing files means writing on the filesystem: "hey filesystem this file I mark this as deleted so don't bother overwriting it bits". And this needs some space to write this :) | 15:17 |
| leszek | COW = Copy on Write | 15:17 |
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| ShinobiWPS | hi community :) | 16:28 |
| ShinobiWPS | I'm realy interested in developing for sailfish :D | 16:28 |
| ShinobiWPS | but i Can't afford a new Jolla phone device, someone maybe can sell me an used one? :( | 16:29 |
| ShinobiWPS | (europe) | 16:29 |
| TemeV | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JOLLA-Smartphone-White-OVP-6-Mon-Garantie-Sailfish-OS-16-GB-SDcard-slot-qHD-/331624739759?hash=item4d365ff3af | 16:33 |
| r0kk3rz | ShinobiWPS: check talk.maemo.org | 16:37 |
| ShinobiWPS | @Temev Thanks for the searching , it's not an Instant Buy,isn't it? | 16:38 |
| ShinobiWPS | @r0kk3rz already checked,replyed to som posts,and wrote one, still no reply from nobody | 16:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | what are you looking to develop? | 16:40 |
| ShinobiWPS | Some nerdy small apps ;) | 16:41 |
| r0kk3rz | nerdy small apps might be ok just on the vm | 16:41 |
| ShinobiWPS | but i also wish to use sailfish as main OS xD | 16:42 |
| r0kk3rz | well thats kinda dependant on you finding a phone you can afford | 16:42 |
| TemeV | ShinobiWPS: nope, but it's the only one I could find from ebay :/ | 16:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | which is a bit limited atm | 16:43 |
| r0kk3rz | in a few months there might be a bunch of tableters selling their newish jphones | 16:43 |
| TemeV | r0kk3rz: why do you think so? | 16:44 |
| pykape | r0kk3rz: I don't think so | 16:44 |
| pykape | nothing beats a phone | 16:44 |
| pykape | not even a tablet | 16:44 |
| r0kk3rz | because people are fickle and might go 'nah dont like it' | 16:44 |
| pykape | I think otherwise | 16:45 |
| pykape | and still if they do, then let them go IMO :D | 16:45 |
| ShinobiWPS | i know aboput the licensing of Sail2, but the landscape is not so promising compared to the jolla Device | 16:45 |
| r0kk3rz | not all tableters went for the phone option though | 16:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | so who knows | 16:45 |
| TemeV | didn't those who bought the combo already receive their phones? | 16:46 |
| pykape | remains to be seen | 16:46 |
| ShinobiWPS | @rokk3rz i know a girl which is using his tablet as a phone | 16:46 |
| pykape | table as a phone is like N-Gage, c'mon :D | 16:46 |
| ShinobiWPS | no, not ngage its a samsung one xD | 16:47 |
| r0kk3rz | ngage was visionary, before its time | 16:47 |
| r0kk3rz | everyone plays games on their phone now | 16:47 |
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| pykape | r0kk3rz: that is true | 16:48 |
| pykape | Nokia was the best IMO | 16:48 |
| pykape | but the 1st version of N-Gage, Mickey Mouse when you talked to it :D | 16:48 |
| pykape | good memories though | 16:48 |
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| ShinobiWPS | so, vene if the discussion is terminated, i won't get any used jolla phone :( | 16:56 |
| ShinobiWPS | even* | 16:56 |
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| Coolgeek | ShinobiWPS: http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=27 maybe you will find something | 16:57 |
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| ShinobiWPS | @Coolgeek thanks, but as I previously said I,ve already wrote on the forum and replyed to the thred with the words "jolla phone" in the title, and still after more than +300 views ,still no reply | 17:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | ShinobiWPS: there isnt that manu jphones in the wild so you'll just have to keep an eye out | 17:06 |
| r0kk3rz | *many | 17:06 |
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| Zucca | Finally! I installed SailfishOS on my Nexus 5. How's the running of Android applications on this setup? Possible? | 18:25 |
| coderus | Zucca: no | 18:27 |
| Zucca | coderus: So it had dependency of some propietary binaries? | 18:28 |
| Zucca | *has | 18:28 |
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| Yaniel | yes | 18:31 |
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| leszek | Zucca: its basically something that Jolla licensed for its Jolla devices by myriad. See: http://www.myriadgroup.com/en/products/device-solutions/mobile-software/alien-dalvik/ | 18:33 |
| leszek | Zucca: there are community efforts like apkenv which already works fine for games using opengl es : http://wiki.maemo.org/Apkenv | 18:35 |
| leszek | and there is the new approach by kde called shashlik: http://files.kde.org/akademy/2015/videos/shashlik-dan-leinir-turthra_jensen-198.webm.mirrorlist | 18:36 |
| leszek | this one also is planned to run "normal" apps | 18:36 |
| Zucca | leszek: Well. I'd like to run OsmAnd http://osmand.net . | 18:38 |
| leszek | Zucca: that seems not to work with apkenv. It will work fine on the android support for jolla though. Hmm... | 18:39 |
| leszek | Zucca: what about PoorMaps ? https://openrepos.net/content/otsaloma/poor-maps It uses openstreetmap maps. | 18:40 |
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| Zucca | leszek: Well. I need navigation with waypoints. Preferably offline navigation. But hey. Gotta start from something. I'll try that. | 18:41 |
| Zucca | Look very promising. :o | 18:42 |
| Zucca | +s | 18:42 |
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| leszek | Zucca: yeah sadly not completely offline. As you cannot download map tiles. It only saves the one that very opened already in the cache | 18:43 |
| leszek | *were | 18:44 |
| leszek | xD | 18:44 |
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| leszek | Zucca: and there seems to be an offline openstreetmap app: https://openrepos.net/content/tunp/monav But I never tried that | 18:47 |
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| Zucca | I think I bumped into this... https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723 | 22:25 |
| merbot | Nemo bug 723 in Hybris-ing "[hammerhead][maguro] gps not working in sailfish ui" [Normal,Resolved: worksforme] | 22:25 |
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| mal- | Zucca: what do you mean? | 22:27 |
| Zucca | test_gps works ok, mut none of the UI applications can use it. | 22:28 |
| mal- | Zucca: which device? | 22:29 |
| Zucca | mal-: Hammerhead / Nexus 5 | 22:29 |
| mal- | Zucca: are you using the latest image? | 22:30 |
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| Zucca | mal-: Not sure actually. I just went byt the instructions on the wiki. | 22:31 |
| Zucca | sailfishos-hammerhead-release-1.1.6.27-alpha12-201506191607 | 22:31 |
| Zucca | Yeah. Seems to be the latest. | 22:32 |
| mal- | that is the latest version, have you followed these instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61662031&postcount=434 | 22:33 |
| Zucca | mal-: Nope. These instead https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_hammerhead | 22:34 |
| mal- | Zucca: gps in not installed by default in alpha12, it has to be installed manually | 22:34 |
| Zucca | mal-: Quick way to do that? I have ssh open atm... | 22:35 |
| mal- | Zucca: just run the commands listed in the link I gave | 22:36 |
| Zucca | Will do! | 22:36 |
| mal- | some people have had problems with gps on n5 https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=839 | 22:37 |
| merbot | Nemo bug 839 in Hybris-ing "[hammerhead][alpha12][gps] gps does not work properly due to a wrong gps status" [Normal,New] | 22:37 |
| mal- | no idea yet why that happens for some people | 22:37 |
| Zucca | Chip change in production..? | 22:38 |
| Zucca | This is my second touch on rpm packages after the very short one long time ago. | 22:39 |
| mal- | I use a different device and haven't had any problems, it's also quite difficult for me to debug that because I cannot reproduce the crash | 22:39 |
| Zucca | I have some learning to do... | 22:40 |
| mal- | Zucca: is there something you don't understand in the instructions? | 22:44 |
| Zucca | mal-: Nope. I just need to learn how rpm packages work. Or rather how to manage them. | 22:45 |
| mal- | Zucca: no need, those commands are all you need now | 22:46 |
| Zucca | mal-: I feel very comfortable in cli. :) I managed packages of my N900 via terminal or remotely via ssh. | 22:48 |
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| mal- | Zucca: let me know if gps works or not after you have installed the package | 23:18 |
| Zucca | mal-: :( guess. | 23:18 |
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| Zucca | I'll dig up the error log tomorrow. | 23:25 |
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