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| lainwir3d | hi everyone | 07:36 |
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| daitheflu | Hi | 07:37 |
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| stephg | saber: where are you seeing the ????.mp3, in the terminal or in your app or via mtp or? | 07:43 |
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| lainwir3d | hmmm, from what sailfish version is python app supported ? I can't find the info. I know it is somewhere. | 09:50 |
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| lainwir3d | in harbour I mean. I get the impression harbour is misdetecting my app compatibility. | 09:51 |
| lainwir3d | seems to be 1.0.3.8 (https://together.jolla.com/question/6116/python-application-support-in-jolla-store-harbour/) | 09:54 |
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| lainwir3d | hmmm... my pyotherside app got rejected. I don't get it. | 11:45 |
| lainwir3d | "MainPage.qml:25:1: module "io.thp.pyotherside" is not installed => import io.thp.pyotherside 1.3 " | 11:46 |
| Yaniel | reason? | 11:46 |
| lainwir3d | I thought pyotherside was supposed to be installed by default ? | 11:46 |
| Yaniel | just add it as a package dependency? | 11:47 |
| lainwir3d | it's added | 11:47 |
| Yaniel | seems not even python is installed by default as ytplayer failed until I installed it manually | 11:47 |
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| lainwir3d | huh. wait. It was added actually, but I restarted the spec file from scrash and forgot to add it again :-| | 11:48 |
| lainwir3d | Damn. That's probably the reason. So stupid of me. Thanks Yaniel, i'll resubmit it. | 11:49 |
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| ILnux | is it possible to get sailfish os on an android device? | 12:08 |
| Nicd- | yes | 12:09 |
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| Nicd- | here is the current support status: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 12:09 |
| Nicd- | you can find more information at #sailfishos-porters | 12:09 |
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| ILnux | thanks my device is supported, iv been looking on the website and there is no way to download the os or guide to install. where can i fund one? | 12:12 |
| Nicd- | you can find more information at #sailfishos-porters | 12:12 |
| ILnux | ok thanks | 12:13 |
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| lainwir3d | hmmm... | 15:56 |
| lainwir3d | "Element is not creatable. => Clipboard { | 15:56 |
| lainwir3d | oh. I think i get it | 15:57 |
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| leszek | lainwir3d: yeah you don't create it but only use Clipboard.foo to call it directly | 16:09 |
| leszek | though I am not sure how well that works. In my opinion the clipboard is still broken as how much I need to restart lipstick here to having it accept new texts | 16:09 |
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| leszek | Btw. TextSecure Jolla Edition now landed on Jolla Store feel free to test it if you want a end to end encrypted opensource instant messaging app (Only APK so you need Android Support) | 16:11 |
| lainwir3d | leszek: yeah I noticed that about the clipboard, thanks :) | 16:11 |
| lainwir3d | ok, i'll check it out | 16:12 |
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| coderus | i'm still using invisible TextEdit for clipboard actions in qml :) | 18:35 |
| leszek | me too | 18:36 |
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| ganatronic | If I wanted to give sailfish a try on a relatively inexpensive phone, what would you recommend? I'm thinking Nexus 4. I'm in the US.. | 21:10 |
| stephg | ganatronic: hi, if you have access to an N4 that's about as good as it gets | 21:11 |
| stephg | that or an N5 | 21:11 |
| ganatronic | N5 is probably out of my price range. But I can access an N4. | 21:11 |
| ganatronic | And thanks! That's really helpful. | 21:11 |
| stephg | ganatronic: fyi: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 21:12 |
| ganatronic | stephg, Thanks. That's what I had been looking at - but I thought I'd just double check here. | 21:13 |
| ganatronic | I have a HTC Desire Z, too. But it's not recognizing the sd card right now, and I'm not sure if I want to bother.. | 21:13 |
| stephg | in terms of features (and I suppose frequencies more to the point) then an N4 will do you well. It's stable but comes with caveats (as do all of the hardware adaptations), YMMV, native-only software etc. | 21:17 |
| stephg | but if you're curious and you have a handset kicking around have a tinker, as is oft said: come in, the water's fine :D | 21:17 |
| stephg | ganatronic: check out the folks in #sailfishos-porters | 21:19 |
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| ganatronic | stephg, ah awesome. Thanks. a stable device would be nice, but until I get one I may try it with the htc - even though I know it won't be perfecto. | 21:21 |
| ganatronic | stephg, I have my own android app that I thought would be fun to try and install. at this point I have no idea if it would work. I don't have high hopes, though. But would trying to install it affect anything else on the phone? | 21:22 |
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| stephg | ganatronic: so unfortunately the dalvik runtime on the jolla (and I imagine will be the same on the tablet) is licensed | 21:25 |
| stephg | so the ported devices don't have that (yet) | 21:26 |
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| stephg | a bunch of folks are looking at coming up with a F/OSS runtime but from what I understand that's all nascient still | 21:27 |
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| ganatronic | stephg: So, to be clear, the ported devices don't have it; but the Jolla phones do? | 21:32 |
| stephg | the jolla phone has an android runtime, yeah. it's called Alien Dalvik and is, unfortunately closed | 21:33 |
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| stephg | ganatronic: the community are looking at this, but right now as far as I understand it things are at the Hello World stage | 21:35 |
| stephg | now the ported devices are functional, and can run native sailfish apps (of which there are a few hundred, and all donation/free) | 21:35 |
| r0kk3rz | theres apkenv working on the n5 | 21:35 |
| stephg | oo so I'm out of date | 21:36 |
| stephg | thx r0kk3rz | 21:36 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure what you can actually run with it though | 21:36 |
| r0kk3rz | its certainly not alien-dalvik | 21:36 |
| ganatronic | stephg, Thanks. Good to know. Personally I'm not married to any apps so the lack of non-native ones doesn't bother me. just thought it would be fun to install mine (I'm the designer, not dev, which is why I'm so dumb)! | 21:36 |
| r0kk3rz | and ganatronic, its not a case of installing it and seeing what works, read through the HADK | 21:37 |
| r0kk3rz | you get through that, and then you get to have fun diagnosing compositor issues | 21:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | oh my bad, someones done some work on the desirez | 21:39 |
| r0kk3rz | looks like lack of audio is probably the main showstopper on that one | 21:40 |
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| stephg | ganatronic: so android app support may be a little off yet, but if you have the free handset kicking about, why not try sailfish | 21:43 |
| stephg | you might like it! | 21:43 |
| ganatronic | r0kk3rz, So "read the HADK" mostly applies to untested devices? or do you recommend I still read it for the n4 or desire? | 21:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | it applies to devices which havent got a port | 21:47 |
| r0kk3rz | or if you want to develop a port further | 21:47 |
| ganatronic | stephg, I think I will! It looks great. And I really want to support an os that isn't the property of google/apple/ms | 21:47 |
| r0kk3rz | you can read it if you want, but its a terse tome and takes a while to understand | 21:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | from a practical level, you dont need to understand it to install an existing port | 21:48 |
| ganatronic | I'll scope it anyway | 21:48 |
| stephg | ganatronic: the n4 port is pretty mature, if you're happy flashing phones then you need not read it all, but it's good background | 21:49 |
| stephg | caveat flasher: it'll eat your babies etc. etc. (it won't but you gotta say that etc.) | 21:49 |
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| stephg | and either way the background is really worth reading, I think an awful of of people don't understand just how complex their phones are | 21:51 |
| stephg | ... and by extension the effort it takes to... liberate them (best analogy I could come up with but it still sucks) | 21:53 |
| r0kk3rz | a lot of it is a crash course in cross-compiling, and compiling a linux os from scratch | 21:55 |
| ganatronic | I've been using linux off and on for 15 year and still can't compile from scratch. it just seems to be beyond me. But I'm really good at following tutorials! | 22:00 |
| stephg | ganatronic: do the n4, you'll love it* | 22:01 |
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| stephg | *no guarantee of loving it, failure to repay your mortgage means your phone belongs to your bank, lets not talk about the hackers, and all of your friends with iPhones etc. etc. | 22:02 |
| ganatronic | that would suck if I can't pay my mortgage next month because of sailfish | 22:03 |
| ganatronic | but... it would make a good story! | 22:03 |
| stephg | :D | 22:04 |
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