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| tortoisedoc | spiiroin : thanks | 05:03 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 05:36 |
| * tortoisedoc wondering if lipstick could run on desktop linux now that i486 targets are present | 05:36 | |
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| Stskeepz | tortoisedoc: it has always been possible to run the i486 emulator for example on a x86 wayland capable tablet | 05:39 |
| tbr | that was actually done even before the phone shipped | 05:43 |
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| tortoisedoc | ok about the emulator; | 05:45 |
| tortoisedoc | how about the r34l d34l | 05:45 |
| tortoisedoc | like full-blown lipstick ui | 05:45 |
| tortoisedoc | (as it is on the phone) | 05:46 |
| tortoisedoc | im thinking mainly on how to manage debugging | 05:46 |
| tortoisedoc | i'd say if i get wayland up and running, i486 packages of lipstick *should* run "out of the box"? | 05:47 |
| Stskeepz | well, something like a systemd container or whatit'scalled might work | 05:48 |
| Stskeepz | let's see | 05:48 |
| Stskeepz | you need a bit of work | 05:48 |
| Stskeepz | just need to redirect sockets a bit i guess | 05:49 |
| tortoisedoc | ah crap systemd :/ | 05:49 |
| tortoisedoc | hm | 05:49 |
| tortoisedoc | rpm based systemd distros... | 05:49 |
| tortoisedoc | fedora? | 05:49 |
| TemeV | fedorea is rpm based has systemd and even ships with wayland | 05:50 |
| TemeV | *Fedora | 05:50 |
| * tortoisedoc shrugs | 05:51 | |
| tortoisedoc | always been more of a debian type of guy :D | 05:51 |
| tortoisedoc | bah | 05:52 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmhm I wonder if there's a build of alien dalvik as well (in i486)? | 05:56 |
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| tortoisedoc | i do not recall if the emulator comes with aliendalvik or not | 06:18 |
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| tortoisedoc | huh | 06:35 |
| tortoisedoc | https://together.jolla.com/ | 06:35 |
| tortoisedoc | unhandled exception | 06:35 |
| tortoisedoc | gone :) | 06:36 |
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| xkr47 | somebody handled it ;) | 06:39 |
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| tortoisedoc | stskeepz : https://build.merproject.org/package/binaries/mer-core:armv7hl:devel/lipstick-qt5?nextstatus=404&repository=Core_armv7hl | 06:54 |
| tortoisedoc | Stskeepz: i486 rpm not available it seems | 06:55 |
| tortoisedoc | ah but source rpm seems to be there | 06:56 |
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| kimmoli | uh. i use id based translations, and seems if i manage to use id that is used by system, it uses that translation... | 08:27 |
| urjaman | lulz | 08:28 |
| urjaman | one would think it shouldnt be like that, but ... | 08:28 |
| urjaman | i dunno | 08:28 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | kimmoli: if you use one id used by silica or any translation loaded by qml plugin you use, yeah, your translation will get overriden | 08:31 |
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| kimmoli | "active-layout" returned Aktiivinen in finnish... | 08:32 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | kimmoli: toh_active-layout ? | 08:34 |
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| kimmoli | i added a typo to it, so now it works :P | 08:36 |
| * kimmoli is not serous | 08:36 | |
| urjaman | :P | 08:38 |
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| kimmoli | seems that MDesktopEntry also loads translation catalogs.. | 08:43 |
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| tortoisedoc | might be related to ressource name mangling | 08:51 |
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| xenkey | hi | 14:39 |
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| xenkey | Could sailfish run on a Kindle? | 14:40 |
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| coderus | #sailfishos-porters | 14:42 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | xenkey: does Cyanogen run on a kindle ? | 14:43 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | and I also know that IIRC lbt did some hacks on another ebook reader | 14:43 |
| xenkey | SfietKonstantinW: That's what I'm currently running | 14:43 |
| SfietKonstantinW | running Mer though | 14:43 |
| SfietKonstantinW | xenkey: you are welcome on #sailfishos-porters | 14:44 |
| lbt | Nook colour - never got it working | 14:44 |
| SfietKonstantinW | lbt: really ? IIRC there were a screenshot | 14:44 |
| lbt | it should but I never found time | 14:44 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ok | 14:44 |
| xenkey | Alright | 14:44 |
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| cvp | Hello, someone can not install the jolla email app, he try it over Jolla Store and Terminal (pkcon install jolla-email) and he get this message: Schwerwiegender Fehler: libnemonotifications-qt5.so.0, benötigt von qmf-notifications-plugin-0.0.11-10.3.1.jolla.armv7hl, wird von keinem Repository angeboten, now, how he can install the qml-notificattions-plugin ? | 16:07 |
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| coderus | check ssu domain and ssu re, upgrade to latest if available | 16:09 |
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| cvp | coderus, can you write how the commands looks like, i will contact im to try | 16:11 |
| cvp | please | 16:11 |
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| coderus | ssu re should be 1.1.7.25 if using early access | 16:16 |
| coderus | ssu domain should be sales | 16:16 |
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| urjaman | http://blog.zimperium.com/experts-found-a-unicorn-in-the-heart-of-android/ i'm curious as to how much the jolla is affected? not via mms i'd hope... (but i assume the aliendalvik is vulnerable in other ways) | 16:38 |
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| flux | urjaman, interwebs say jolla is not vulnerable. | 16:43 |
| flux | urjaman, http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/2015/07/worried-about-stagefright-android-bug.html | 16:43 |
| urjaman | thanks, i guess i should've googled ... | 16:44 |
| coderus | jolla isnt based on android | 16:44 |
| flux | well, I happened to have noticed the link at reddit.com/r/Jolla, thoughI suppose google also finds it | 16:44 |
| urjaman | "Eventually we will patch the vulnerability in the aliendalvik when there's a patch available." | 16:45 |
| urjaman | so not by mms but the myriad aliendalvik is vulnerable ... | 16:45 |
| coderus | what this exploit can do? | 16:46 |
| coderus | aliendalvik is running in chroot | 16:46 |
| urjaman | remote code execution | 16:47 |
| coderus | it have no access to system files | 16:47 |
| urjaman | if you get the aliendalvik to parse some media file afaik | 16:47 |
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| urjaman | firefox has fixed it in theirs so not via firefox anymore ... | 16:47 |
| urjaman | but basically it could take over atleast everything that app (that got compromised) can do, and the lists of permissions of most android apps are scary enough | 16:49 |
| coderus | wll | 16:50 |
| coderus | aliendalvik cant call, send sms without permission | 16:50 |
| urjaman | but yeah good that you cant own the jolla with an mms message, that sounds outright horrible for all the android phones ... | 16:51 |
| urjaman | or 95% of or something | 16:51 |
| coderus | multimedia parsers are always bad | 16:51 |
| coderus | there are a lot of unhandled exceptions and writing to memory out of bounds | 16:52 |
| coderus | in theory any os can be hacked with special audio or video file | 16:52 |
| urjaman | well i guess thats practically true but it doesnt need to be true (meaning all multimedia parsers will always be bad) | 16:54 |
| urjaman | but i guess lots(/most?) of them assume non-hostile input | 16:55 |
| urjaman | which really means you shouldnt be f'ing autoplaying/parsing something an unknown sent via mms | 16:55 |
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| shmerl | Hi. Can anyone advise please, how to troubleshoot SMTP sending in Sailfish? Are there any logs? I have a problem (Nexus 5 installation) with client throwing errors on send. | 17:09 |
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| leszek | shmerl: not sure if there are any logs but usually the port or the encryption method for sending password is wrong when smtp is not working | 17:20 |
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| shmerl | leszek: I know it's right, since it works in Kmail and Thunderbrid. | 17:22 |
| shmerl | leszek: Can anything be run with debug level, like for CardDAV? | 17:23 |
| shmerl | there you can use MSYNCD_LOGGING_LEVEL to get more info. | 17:23 |
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| shmerl | If there are no logs, it's quite frustrating. How do you troubleshoot e-mail then? | 17:33 |
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| urjaman | i've only needed to troubleshoot my own server w jolla, so i used server logs, but i dunno ... | 17:35 |
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| shmerl | I can try contacting my provider support, but there should be some way to troubleshoot the client... | 17:36 |
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| shmerl | Also, do you know if "always up to date" in IMAP supposed to use IMAP IDLE? And if so, does it avoiding draining battery, or it's still expensive to do that? | 17:37 |
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| shmerl | It seems using that does discharge my device faster. | 17:38 |
| lainwir3d | hi again | 17:38 |
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| lainwir3d | is it possible to make the virtual keyboard appears manually ? Without any real text input qml component behind I mean | 17:39 |
| lainwir3d | will it appears if i put an invisible TextField with forced focus ? | 17:40 |
| r0kk3rz | for what purpose? | 17:44 |
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| coderus | lainwir3d: yes it will work | 17:44 |
| coderus | you can check my webos tv control app | 17:44 |
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| shmerl | Also, does anyone know how to manage IMAP folders in the Sailfish client? | 17:47 |
| shmerl | I.e. they aren't really updated. How to subscribe to some of them? | 17:47 |
| shmerl | In general the whole e-mail experience feels rather rough. For instance, e-mail font doesn't support Unicode (very surprising). | 17:48 |
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| shmerl | So non Latin alphabets are shown as squares. | 17:49 |
| jaacoppi | shmerl: e-mail supports unicode for me | 17:49 |
| shmerl | jaacoppi: I tested it with Hebrew. It works on N950 / Harmattan. Not on Sailfish. | 17:50 |
| shmerl | (On Nexus 5) | 17:50 |
| jaacoppi | I tested in finnish with the Jolla phone, it works | 17:50 |
| urjaman | ha ha | 17:51 |
| shmerl | jaacoppi: What do you expect ;) | 17:51 |
| urjaman | but yeah thats not an unicode problem, a font doesnt have hebrew problem | 17:51 |
| shmerl | Finnish alone still doesn't mean the font has proper Unicode support. | 17:51 |
| shmerl | urjaman; That's a font Unicode support problem :) | 17:52 |
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| shmerl | Apparently it's a known bug: https://together.jolla.com/question/12370/support-for-hebrew-language-squares-when-receiving-hebrew/ | 18:16 |
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| shmerl | I found another weird e-mail bug. If I set new e-mail tone to some FLAC file, it stops reading e-mails... | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | O_o | 18:20 |
| shmerl | Apparently it chokes somewhere and stops updating after that. | 18:20 |
| shmerl | I works with default mp3 tone. | 18:20 |
| shmerl | IMAP is set to "always up to date" (i.e. IDLE?) | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | file an issue | 18:21 |
| shmerl | Can be a coincidence. I'm trying to reproduce it a few times. | 18:21 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: on TJC? | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | i guess so | 18:22 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: Are there any plans for making a more proper bug tracker for Sailfish? TJC is already de facto used for that... So early argument that bug tracker is hard to handle and "no one will follow it" is clearly not so already. | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: perhaps :) | 18:23 |
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| shmerl | Stskeeps: Please do :) It would make it much easier. TJC is a huge mix of things. | 18:25 |
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| shmerl | And functionally not as good as a proper bug tracker. | 18:26 |
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| Nokius | kimmoli: gistpub is not showing the file name :( may github did some changes in the json? | 19:38 |
| kimmoli | öh | 19:38 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: I see linse but no title odd | 19:39 |
| kimmoli | w4m | 19:39 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: now it works cloed it and reopen it | 19:40 |
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| lainwir3d | coderus: thanks | 19:56 |
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| Thaodan | why is the gcc on merobs so old? | 20:48 |
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| King_DuckZ | hello, some friend was showing me an alternative to twitter called Ello (it's ello.co I think) | 22:43 |
| King_DuckZ | is there an app for sf to try it? | 22:43 |
| coderus | King_DuckZ: by your link i see it only for ios | 22:56 |
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