Sunday, 2015-07-12

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King_DuckZhello11:08
King_DuckZis there any gamepad known to work with android apps on jolla phones?11:08
King_DuckZbluetooth, wired, telepathic.... I don't really mind that11:09
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r0kk3rzi dont think bluetooth anything works with android on the jolla11:34
r0kk3rzwired wont work as there is no usb-host11:34
r0kk3rzdo wifi gamepads exist? thats a possibillity11:34
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r0kk3rzand rolling your own i2c based gamepad toh11:35
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TemeVDo Android games support pads?11:36
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King_DuckZTemeV: ouya and mojo all feature controllers11:45
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King_DuckZr0kk3rz: so uhm that's a major show stopper, I found epsxe and wanted to play psx games on jolla, but with touch it's just unpayable11:46
urjamanthey do, but i wouldnt be surprised if aliendalvik fails to pass them through11:46
TemeVok11:46
TemeVI thought all games are just made for touch screen :)11:47
urjamanatleast my friend said gta vc works with ... something something controller (cant remember if playstation or xbox ...)11:49
urjaman(btw making gta vc work on the jolla was a tricky thing, but possible...)11:50
tbrif the bt controller just does BT HID, then the keystrokes _might_ just get forwarded into aliendalvik11:50
r0kk3rzthats true11:50
urjamanit worked before they changed something with audio and then it was all glitchy (bububufferrererrerei-i-in-g-g) audio and i havent tried since11:51
urjaman(just so somebody knows, to have driving in cars work in gta vc i hex edited the opengl es hardware library to say the gpu is Adreno 320 instead of 305... some workaround in gta vc with a string match...)11:54
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King_DuckZI've invited the dude from epsxe to join this room, maybe he is interested in making a native build12:04
King_DuckZhe shouldn't be too far away, since he's already got it running on Linux and Android ARM12:05
King_DuckZso if you see this Calb dude around http://epsxe.com/contact.php please be nice to him ;)12:05
* Stskeeps gets out pitchforks12:05
Stskeeps:P12:05
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r0kk3rzsomeone got a n64 emulator working anyway12:27
r0kk3rzso at least you can play mario12:27
King_DuckZnatively?12:27
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r0kk3rzyeah12:29
r0kk3rzmupen6412:29
King_DuckZcool12:29
King_DuckZwill it ever make it to the jolla store?12:30
r0kk3rzlooks like this epsxe is closed source, so i guess its up to the creators if they want to try and port it or not12:30
King_DuckZyeah that's why I invited them here12:30
King_DuckZor if you know of any alternative emulators...12:30
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r0kk3rzwhether mupen makes it to the jollastore is mostly up to jolla I think, and their rules about whats allowed .etc12:32
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King_DuckZis it considered warez or something?12:35
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r0kk3rzunlikely12:36
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r0kk3rzmore about dependencies12:36
r0kk3rzwhich hopefully might open up a bit with sfos2.012:37
King_DuckZfinal fantasy is quite playable with touch controls btw, at least so far12:38
King_DuckZcrash bandicoot is just too hard12:39
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r0kk3rzwonder if they've sorted the timing in ff712:40
r0kk3rzlast time i played it on pc, the bike chase scene was timed to cpu time, made it rather difficult12:41
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King_DuckZah idk that, I'm playing the steam version on wine, which seemed to work ok12:42
r0kk3rzoh its on steam now? cool12:43
r0kk3rzthis was ages ago12:43
King_DuckZthey even announced a proper remake, coming to PS4... I've been drooling nonstop since12:46
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King_DuckZhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfYr3Jw1LgQ12:47
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Jettisthank you urjaman for the tip for gta, works great :)13:37
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King_DuckZI would find an app like Tellico to be very useful for my Jolla16:46
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r0kk3rzi wonder what the kde frameworks do on top of qt16:49
r0kk3rznot sure a catelogger thing is that useful for a phone, but a tablet? sounds like a good productivity app to me16:49
Ponchalehi17:00
Ponchalehow are you17:00
Ponchalehi r0kk3rz17:00
Ponchalehow are you man17:00
r0kk3rzpretty good, how are you Ponchale?17:00
Ponchaleall good all fine17:01
Ponchaleyou are development?17:01
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r0kk3rzi'm a casual observer and occasional app developer17:04
Ponchaleok17:07
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King_DuckZr0kk3rz: I have my manga collection on tellico, it would be nice to at least be able to view it on my phone, so if I'm at some shop or fairy I can check what I miss before buying17:09
r0kk3rzKing_DuckZ: yeah thats a fair point, never thought of it like that17:10
King_DuckZa viewer would be enough for me already, I can then update my collection when I go home17:11
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r0kk3rzdepending on how complicated the storage format is, you could probably write one in an afternoon17:22
r0kk3rzoh its xml17:23
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sakustarr0kk3rz: hope the apps wont divide to phone/tablet :-( was a pain to root android and automate dpi changing. not to mention being unable to dl tablet only apps to the phone20:55
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sakustaror rather with the phone20:56
r0kk3rzthey are a fundamentally different style of device though, so some divide will always happen20:57
r0kk3rzsome things make sense on a bigger screen20:57
sakustaryeah20:57
r0kk3rzi think some kind of split view was planned for the tablet20:57
r0kk3rzso you dont have phone apps getting loads of whitespace20:58
sakustarbut still :p20:58
r0kk3rzor otherwise getting distorted20:58
r0kk3rzi know what you mean though, but not sure i can see a way around it20:58
sakustarandroid used stretch :D20:58
sakustarwell with jolla its understandable20:59
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sakustarunless someone makes a phablet or w/e the big boys are called20:59
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sakustarits dumb you cant use an app with a 6" screen but 7" is fine :p21:00
r0kk3rzyeah thats true21:00
r0kk3rzthey're already working on proper dpi scaling, so that shouldnt be so much of an issue21:01
r0kk3rzbut if you've designed a UI for a 10" tablet, its hard to squish it down to a 5" phone screen21:02
sakustaryeah thats true21:02
sakustarresponsive design is trending tho21:02
sakustaror just let me try mashing mini buttons with a stylus ;)21:03
XwZbut to help, they can redefine Silica types on the tablet to display elements differently to adapt the application automaticaly ?21:04
r0kk3rzi was more thinking about information density21:04
r0kk3rzqml is already rather adaptive21:04
sakustarwill be interesting to see if the win10 concept will work21:05
sakustarand how much work itll add21:05
r0kk3rzbut essentially you would have to design the ui for both scenarios21:05
sakustaror just enable zooming in and out21:07
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sakustardepends much on what kind of apps will come21:07
XwZwe already do it to manage nicely horizontal and vertical orientations ?21:08
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r0kk3rzno doubt different developers will handle it differently on a case by case basis21:08
r0kk3rztbh i probably should update sirensong for tohkbders21:09
r0kk3rzsince its currently portrait only21:09
sakustaridk how to use 10" :(21:10
sakustarand it seems no one in windows store knows either21:10
sakustar(only tablet i have is a surface pro)21:11
XwZif i well remember KDE already has concept for screens size with KDE5 plasma21:12
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