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| daitheflu | Hi | 07:50 |
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| coderus | hello great programmers! | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | zzzz | 07:51 |
| coderus | can i just get Jolla Tablet without stable software and update it when it will be ready, please? :D | 07:55 |
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| Stskeeps | coderus: wasn't that a bit like jolla1? | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | :p | 07:58 |
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| TemeV | isn't there the display problem? So you would get a tablet without stable software and without display :) | 07:58 |
| plfiorini | pff stable software, where's the fun with that :) | 07:59 |
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| daitheflu | Stskeeps: kinda still the case with Jolla phone | 08:04 |
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| Stskeeps | daitheflu: possibly | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | i run on devel level sailfishos | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:05 |
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| daitheflu | of course :) | 08:05 |
| daitheflu | lucky you ;) | 08:05 |
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| TemeV | I wouldn't say Sailfish is unstable. It is just missing some features :/ | 08:06 |
| nib | TemeV: it wouldnt be so much interesting in other case | 08:08 |
| daitheflu | TemeV: some features are unstable (i.e. not reliable) : carddav, caldav for example | 08:09 |
| TemeV | daitheflu: true. I didn't think it like that | 08:09 |
| daitheflu | I can deal with it, Jolla is my day-to-day phone | 08:09 |
| daitheflu | and I'm happy with it | 08:09 |
| TemeV | me too :) | 08:10 |
| TemeV | I hope carddav and caldav are fixed before I craduate. Because then I'll lose the exchange server of the university and I'll need another solution for calendar and contacts syncing | 08:12 |
| TemeV | *graduate | 08:12 |
| daitheflu | :/ | 08:13 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: anyway, because it still tablet :) | 08:30 |
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| tortoisedoc | daitheflu: had owncloud + caldav for about 8 months now, no problem ever | 09:29 |
| inte | there is still no support for iCal calendars apart from importing them once, right? | 09:30 |
| tortoisedoc | inte : dunno, only used caldav | 09:31 |
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| celeron55 | we should go ask apple why they don't support our native calendars instead! | 09:33 |
| celeron55 | why does it have to be so one-sided, after all 8-) | 09:33 |
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| daitheflu | tortoisedoc: with my google account, I (very) often have problems : events don't sync, contact don't sync, calendars are emptied if I'm offline, ... | 09:35 |
| daitheflu | I even lost some events a few days ago | 09:36 |
| daitheflu | hopefully I had them noted on a piece of paper | 09:36 |
| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : never tried google with caldav, but why would it differ is spec is consistent? perhaps google is not 100% spec-wise | 09:37 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 09:37 |
| tortoisedoc | oho jolla qa team is going on vacation :) | 09:37 |
| tortoisedoc | does that mean my tablet is ready? XD | 09:37 |
| daitheflu | tortoisedoc: google is probably doing is own sh*t here, I wouldn't be surprised | 09:38 |
| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : buy nas and switch to owncloud; I couldnt be happier :) | 09:38 |
| daitheflu | caldav and carddav are kinda messy anyway | 09:38 |
| daitheflu | ^ the specs | 09:39 |
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| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : do not know about them, never had to work with them | 09:39 |
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| TemeV | isn't googles caldav support deprecated? | 09:56 |
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| inte | im using openxchange and it works fine | 09:57 |
| leszek | hi | 09:57 |
| inte | at least by now | 09:57 |
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| daitheflu | maybe time for me to switch to something else (eg. Baikal) | 10:03 |
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| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : owncloud! :P | 10:33 |
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| daitheflu | tortoisedoc: I have a small grudge against ownCloud | 10:39 |
| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : how comes | 10:39 |
| daitheflu | tortoisedoc: I worked for the project at the very beginning, mostly on the UI | 10:40 |
| tortoisedoc | oh ok so its personal | 10:40 |
| tortoisedoc | sorry to dig it up :) | 10:40 |
| daitheflu | I made some proposals and they decided to use them without asking me/proposing me to integrate them | 10:40 |
| daitheflu | np :) | 10:40 |
| daitheflu | it was like 5 years ago, maybe more | 10:41 |
| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : heh | 10:41 |
| tortoisedoc | its called stealing ideas, and in the sw industry usually its the first lesson you learn :P | 10:41 |
| daitheflu | yep, I thought it would be different with FOSS, especially when the project is small (it was small at that time) | 10:42 |
| tortoisedoc | I planned to contrib to owncloud, but good to hear opinions from hands-on :) | 10:42 |
| daitheflu | well I'm happy to see where they are now | 10:42 |
| daitheflu | things have certainly changed a lot by now | 10:42 |
| daitheflu | gotta go, see you this afternoon ! | 10:42 |
| tortoisedoc | unless top heads at the company have changed, i doubt | 10:43 |
| tortoisedoc | see you | 10:43 |
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| qrosh | hey is there a way to make Rectangle objects more conforming with sailfish colors, i.e. slightly see through ? | 12:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | qrosh: what kind of design you are aiming at | 12:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you should not use Rectangle :D | 12:23 |
| SfietKonstantinW | or, you can use opacity | 12:23 |
| qrosh | Well I wanted to have 4 to 5 Buttons with different background color. | 12:28 |
| qrosh | @SfietKonstantinW basically a big blue box with a button sitting ontop of it | 12:29 |
| qrosh | SfietKonstantinW and a orange one underneath it or something | 12:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hum | 12:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Sailfish Silica guidelines is to only use theme colors | 12:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but if you want to have see through, use opacity | 12:30 |
| qrosh | ahh okay thanks | 12:30 |
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| daitheflu | buttons ? :P | 12:39 |
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| qrosh | yes buttons or maybe I will change the design completly | 12:48 |
| coderus | qrosh: color: Theme.rgba(Theme.highlightBackgroundColor, Theme.highlightBackgroundOpacity) | 12:51 |
| ilpianista | "surround touch" tests reports bottom line is dead :'-( anything I can test before sending to jolla care? :-( | 12:52 |
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| kimmoli | squueze bottoms? | 12:54 |
| ilpianista | "squueze?" | 12:54 |
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| ilpianista | done, but does not help | 12:54 |
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| kimmoli | connect to charger? take battery out? if it is a latchup | 12:55 |
| ilpianista | I'm testing battery out right now | 12:55 |
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| ilpianista | nope, nothing :'-( | 12:57 |
| TemeV | am I imaging things or did this conversation just change channel :) | 12:57 |
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| ilpianista | TemeV, you are imaging things :-P | 12:57 |
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| qrosh | coderus thank you | 13:03 |
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| anYc | Does someone know if it's possible to resync the list of available calenders on a CALDAV server (e.g. owncloud)? | 14:56 |
| anYc | without deleting and recreating the account | 14:56 |
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| Ponchale | Hi how are you people | 18:44 |
| Ponchale | Hi locusf | 18:44 |
| Ponchale | you remember me? | 18:44 |
| locusf | Ponchale: h hey :) | 18:49 |
| Ponchale | how are you men. Long time no talk | 18:50 |
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| Ponchale | if you're working with Jolla? | 18:50 |
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| locusf | all good here, summer is quite damp here in Finland | 18:52 |
| Ponchale | we here we are in winter, you went to work Jolla? | 18:53 |
| locusf | nope | 18:56 |
| Ponchale | why? | 18:57 |
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| Ponchale | why no locusf? | 19:10 |
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| Ponchale | we continue to expect Jolla response have not yet responded to us since March we communicate that shame for a company that is looking for partners | 19:16 |
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| celeron55 | they clearly don't put that much resources into PR and HR | 19:21 |
| celeron55 | it's kind of disappointing sometimes but meh, at least they're technically competent | 19:22 |
| Ponchale | so is celeron55 we are a Colombian company and we are very interested and are not denote interest in expanding | 19:22 |
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| Ponchale | useless to them to be relevant in certain respects if they refuse or do not give enough importance to companies that are interested in collaborating with the project. | 19:23 |
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| celeron55 | i'm not much involved in anything here, but it could be that they try to be open enough that collaborators can collaborate independently (like how tohkbd was made) | 19:25 |
| celeron55 | then they can help later when they see the collaborator is actually up to something | 19:26 |
| Ponchale | No words on the subject | 19:27 |
| celeron55 | it's how open source usually works and is kind of efficient; granted though that jolla isn't completely open like that | 19:27 |
| Ponchale | as they set out on their website that stakeholders become partners send an email | 19:27 |
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| qrosh | hey I got a stupid question. I read the pagestack.push api and am wondering how does pushing properties work? | 20:25 |
| qrosh | I have the following: pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("somepage.qml"), {foo: "bar"}) | 20:26 |
| qrosh | the somepage.qml has the following: property alias foo: "" | 20:26 |
| kimmoli | property type, not alias | 20:27 |
| kimmoli | afaiu | 20:27 |
| celeron55 | you need to put a type in place of "alias" | 20:28 |
| celeron55 | like string or int | 20:28 |
| celeron55 | so yes, that's how it works, but you have your basic qml wrong | 20:28 |
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| qrosh | ahh okay thats different from the sample I found from ubuntu :mfw: | 20:30 |
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| coderus | or property alias foo: someobject.otherproperty | 20:34 |
| coderus | this is how aliases works | 20:34 |
| coderus | property alias foo: "" can't be written in any docs/examples | 20:35 |
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| coderus | or give me a link to that article | 20:35 |
| coderus | you know what alias means, isn't it? | 20:36 |
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| qrosh | Its like property alias foo: bar.repair | 20:40 |
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| mhall119 | qrosh: what ubuntu sample were you looking at? | 21:14 |
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| coderus | qrosh: it's right example | 21:21 |
| coderus | its you using it wrong | 21:21 |
| coderus | please read qml basics | 21:21 |
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| coderus | http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-typesystem-basictypes.html http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-typesystem-topic.html http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-typesystem-objecttypes.html http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-javascript-expressions.html | 21:23 |
| coderus | and then you wont ask such questions anymore :) | 21:23 |
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| qrosh | coderus: okay will do | 21:49 |
| qrosh | mhall119: nevermind I made an apparent mistake | 21:49 |
| mhall119 | qrosh: ok, if you do happen upon an error in Ubuntu's docs, please file a bug so I can get it fixed | 21:50 |
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| qrosh | mhall119: never I want people to hate Ubuntu [/sarcasm] | 21:51 |
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| Ponchale | someone who can help me to give me an answer within Jolla? | 22:26 |
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