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| Armadillo | is it possible to migrate from qsTr to qsTrId that the translators don't have to copy all strings manually? | 08:11 |
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| kimmoli | Armadillo: at least i did not figure out such way... | 08:23 |
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| Armadillo | kimmoli: I just give it a try and it seemed to my, that lupdate does this automatically | 08:30 |
| Armadillo | I'm currently converting a whole page to see what's happening | 08:30 |
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| kimmoli | i tested with transifex, and it did drop everything | 08:31 |
| Armadillo | this is why I'm asking :P | 08:32 |
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| ChrisHH | did anyone ever compile some kde5 stuff for sfos? | 08:32 |
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| coderus | ChrisHH: there is no KDE5 exists | 08:35 |
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| coderus | kde fraeworks 5 or kde plasma 5 | 08:36 |
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| Armadillo | kimmoli: this is what lupdate produces: <translation type="unfinished">Helfer</translation> | 08:36 |
| Armadillo | have you gotten the same result after switching to qsTrId? | 08:37 |
| ChrisHH | coderus: I guess the framework is needed to compile plasma apps? | 08:37 |
| leinir | well, the documents viewer is very early kf5... but it's a self-contained library, and deliberately done that way to avoid clashes if a proper kf5 library set was ever built by someone else | 08:37 |
| ChrisHH | so, both? :-) | 08:37 |
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| coderus | i only tried to compile some plasma5 stuff for kubuntu, but sources was awful and required to install whole huge set of headers of everything to compile some small stuff, so i gave up | 08:37 |
| ChrisHH | coderus: yes thats what im into as well :-) | 08:37 |
| ChrisHH | I guess I will wait for the tablet and then simply try to run some x86 rpms :-) | 08:38 |
| kimmoli | Armadillo: hmm, maybe i didn't update translated .ts files, just the english (resource) | 08:38 |
| Armadillo | kimmoli: to be honest I don't nkow if this is possible | 08:38 |
| Armadillo | *know | 08:38 |
| kimmoli | but luckily it is just ~50 strings :) | 08:39 |
| Armadillo | yes, that's not to much to translate | 08:39 |
| kimmoli | or copy-paste in this case | 08:40 |
| Armadillo | yep | 08:40 |
| kimmoli | can you sort those in transifex? | 08:40 |
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| kimmoli | by original text ? | 08:41 |
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| kimmoli | also, suggestions seems to show the translation from other resource | 08:43 |
| Armadillo | I'll try to update the language files with a smaller project | 08:43 |
| daitheflu | sorry for dropping in, I wonder what's the advantage of qsTrId ? | 08:51 |
| Armadillo | you don't have to translate everything completely new if one char of a very arge string changes | 08:52 |
| Armadillo | *large | 08:52 |
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| daitheflu | thanks Armadillo | 08:54 |
| Armadillo | np | 08:55 |
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| coderus | qsTrId is a bit faster and you do not need to translate simple same strings like "Cancel", "Settings" dozen of times, one id will be used in multiple places | 09:05 |
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| daitheflu | coderus: I see (I'm also reading the doc right now), thanks :) | 09:08 |
| daitheflu | is there a guideline regarding the naming of ids ? | 09:08 |
| coderus | no, your choice | 09:09 |
| coderus | my_pretty_cancel_text | 09:09 |
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| daitheflu | lol okay, thanks :) | 09:09 |
| Armadillo | coderus: the only difference between qstr and qstrid is that with id the are not listed under the specific page, maybe you can get the same effect of no double translations if you move them all to the generic namespace | 09:10 |
| Armadillo | but I think qsTrId is the better way to use anyway | 09:10 |
| Armadillo | the problem is, that in most examples only qsTr is used, which lead me dto do the same :-/ | 09:11 |
| coderus | qsTr if you don't want to translate your own app :D | 09:11 |
| coderus | so for lazy programmers | 09:11 |
| Armadillo | :D | 09:12 |
| daitheflu | Armadillo: same for me, didn't know about qsTrId before yesterday, when I saw it in Sfiet_Konstantin's code | 09:12 |
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| coderus | and the problem is: if you find typo in your own source translation inside qsTr all translators should update their translations because source had changed | 09:12 |
| Armadillo | yes that's very annoying | 09:13 |
| coderus | or not a typo, just want to add extra information or change something | 09:13 |
| daitheflu | still, qsTr is better than nothing, I often see examples where the strings aren't localized | 09:13 |
| coderus | just if your project have > 50 strings and your laziness less than 50% use qsTrId | 09:13 |
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| coderus | daitheflu: if you doing something simple like ScreenTapShot or BatteryOverlay you usually dont want to make it translatable at all :D | 09:14 |
| daitheflu | "laziness less than 50%", I like the way you consider things coderus :D | 09:14 |
| coderus | for me if laziness >= 51% i'll probably won't do that at all, and if <= 50% i'll probably do it :D | 09:15 |
| Armadillo | hm well, but it's not much more work to use qsTrId and add a short id | 09:16 |
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| Armadillo | but you need to know that is exists :-/ | 09:16 |
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| coderus | it's more work just because you need to translate your own app :) | 09:24 |
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| Armadillo | ok | 10:39 |
| Armadillo | kimmoli: if you update all .ts files and the translation from //% are the same than before, they get migrated automatically, but get tagged with unfinished | 10:40 |
| Armadillo | if you remove type="unfinished" and upload the file to transifex for each language it works :) | 10:40 |
| kimmoli | Armadillo: ok, nice | 10:40 |
| kimmoli | need to test this with paint | 10:41 |
| kimmoli | when i make more features to it | 10:41 |
| Armadillo | hehe | 10:41 |
| Armadillo | some sed magic like sed -i 's/ type="unfinished"//' *.ts should do the trick | 10:42 |
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| kimmoli | or open file in liquist first and accept all | 10:44 |
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| kimmoli | qtlinquist tjsp | 10:44 |
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| Armadillo | yes :) | 10:44 |
| xkr47 | ok so qsTrId is the only way to go in new apps | 10:45 |
| kimmoli | this https://github.com/kimmoli/tohkbd2/commit/450ae86bd4a8c560705250914a89f6fc5af0abc0 | 10:45 |
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| kimmoli | no duplicate strings to translate, can fix typos (add punctuation) | 10:46 |
| Armadillo | xkr47: full ack | 10:46 |
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| kimmoli | and on c++. it is qtTrId() | 10:47 |
| xkr47 | is //: and //% interpreted by some tool? | 10:47 |
| kimmoli | lupdate | 10:47 |
| xkr47 | k | 10:48 |
| kimmoli | seems you cant do: #define TR_CAT "kissa" and then qtTrId(TR_CAT) | 10:50 |
| kimmoli | you can do it way around, #define TR_CAT qtTrId("kissa") | 10:51 |
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| Armadillo | does the source language with qsTrId also pushed into an own language or will it be taken from the comments in the code? | 10:51 |
| kimmoli | lupdate does not know how to look in #defines | 10:51 |
| kimmoli | it is called "engineering english" | 10:52 |
| kimmoli | you can translate it to english also | 10:52 |
| kimmoli | but, if you load it always as translator, then it is default | 10:52 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/tohkbd2/blob/master/user-daemon/src/tohkbd2user.cpp#L48 | 10:52 |
| Armadillo | mhm | 10:53 |
| Armadillo | I'll test it | 10:53 |
| kimmoli | and https://github.com/kimmoli/tohkbd2/blob/master/user-daemon/i18n/engineering_en.ts | 10:53 |
| kimmoli | no translations here, this is directly by lupdate() | 10:53 |
| Armadillo | ah ok the ids are the fallback | 10:53 |
| kimmoli | yes, if nothing loaded, then it uses id's | 10:54 |
| Armadillo | I see | 10:54 |
| kimmoli | thats why need to load the engineering-en as translator | 10:54 |
| kimmoli | if translatio missing from e.g. DE, it uses english, instead of id | 10:55 |
| Armadillo | mhm | 10:56 |
| Armadillo | btw: I'm using SailfishApp::pathTo(QString("localization")).toLocalFile() to avoid full file paths | 10:57 |
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| kimmoli | Armadillo: yes i know. i was too lazy to change it | 11:00 |
| Armadillo | :D | 11:01 |
| kimmoli | it was not sailfishApp in the beginning | 11:01 |
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| Armadillo | hm | 11:30 |
| Armadillo | I can't get the Engineeringtranslator to load en_US by default | 11:31 |
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| xkr47 | have you discovered a "best practice" or howto for setting up transifex with sailfish/qt projects? | 11:44 |
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| Armadillo | you mean that new translation files get automatically checked out? | 11:45 |
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| xkr47 | Armadillo, the whole integrating process.. "if you want to use transifex for translations, you should do A, B and C and you have to avoid D, E and F" | 12:29 |
| Armadillo | well | 12:29 |
| Armadillo | create an account | 12:29 |
| xkr47 | [x] check | 12:29 |
| Armadillo | cretae an organization, create a project, publish a .ts file | 12:29 |
| xkr47 | so it understands them directly.. | 12:29 |
| Armadillo | translation files are called resources | 12:29 |
| Armadillo | yes | 12:29 |
| Armadillo | direct import and export | 12:30 |
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| kimmoli | i use the tx cli tool | 12:37 |
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| kimmoli | (my workflow) 1. create some temp folder 2. cd there 3. tx init | 12:37 |
| xkr47 | cool | 12:38 |
| kimmoli | 4. tx set --auto-remote <the url with /p/ in middle> | 12:38 |
| kimmoli | tx pull -a | 12:38 |
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| kimmoli | you can have mulitple project in same place. just redo step 4 | 12:39 |
| kimmoli | it creates ./translations/something-that-looks-like-your-project/ folder | 12:39 |
| kimmoli | for each resource | 12:39 |
| kimmoli | you could also link resource directly to gihub (afaiu) but not tested that yet | 12:40 |
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| xkr47 | sounds great | 12:48 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: no qtTrId, tr and trId | 13:50 |
| coderus | daitheflu: listview currentIndex: -1 | 13:51 |
| ilpianista | any howto about landscape support in applications? | 13:53 |
| kimmoli | coderus: https://wiki.qt.io/QtInternationalization#Id_based_translations | 13:53 |
| ilpianista | and about tohkbd integration? | 13:53 |
| kimmoli | ilpianista: _defaultPageOrientation in appwindow | 13:54 |
| kimmoli | and Keys.onPressed | 13:54 |
| ilpianista | kimmoli, thanks, any source code please? | 13:54 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/tohkbd2/blob/master/settings-ui/qml/components/KeyboardHandler.qml | 13:55 |
| coderus | kimmoli: hm really sorry, seems i didn't used id-based translation for a long time :D | 13:55 |
| ilpianista | kimmoli, great! | 13:55 |
| ilpianista | kimmoli, _defaultPageOrientation sounds like something to set when the application starts, I'm wrong? | 13:56 |
| daitheflu | coderus: I saw that (doc, googling) but it doesn't work :( | 13:56 |
| coderus | ilpianista: use page allowedOrientations | 13:56 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/tohkbd2/blob/master/settings-ui/qml/tohkbd2-settingsui.qml#L13 | 13:56 |
| kimmoli | allowedOrientations need to be added on all pages | 13:57 |
| kimmoli | with this. dont set | 13:57 |
| kimmoli | just once on ApplicationWindwow | 13:58 |
| coderus | MyPage: Page { allowedOrientations: yourValue } | 13:59 |
| kimmoli | yourWay :p | 14:00 |
| kimmoli | myWay TM | 14:00 |
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| coderus | You can have LandscapePage PortraitPage AnyPage this way :) | 14:01 |
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| daitheflu | allright, I put my ListView header outside of the ListView, and I re-parent it | 14:27 |
| daitheflu | my SearchField isn't resetting anymore now :) | 14:28 |
| daitheflu | but it still loses focus (my ListView HAS currentIndex set to -1) | 14:28 |
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| taaem | daitheflu: you could try forceActiveFocus (not sure if it is called this way) on the Searchfield | 14:50 |
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| daitheflu | taaem: yes, I tried it | 14:52 |
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| daitheflu | for now I'm wrapping my model in a QSortFilterProxyModel, and I wrote a filterAcceptsRow(...) method | 14:54 |
| daitheflu | and it works | 14:54 |
| daitheflu | so the filtering logic is now written in C++ rather than in SQL | 14:55 |
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| xkr47 | is it possible to support different orientations in covers? For example the terminal, which doesn't have an active cover, does rotate with the phone... | 15:01 |
| xkr47 | .. so obviously it is possible to make the content rotate, but if I want to have cover actions as well? | 15:01 |
| xkr47 | are covers always presented in portrait mode in the tablet, regardless of device orientation? | 15:02 |
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| coderus | daitheflu: ah lol, you didnt used proxy model? | 15:04 |
| coderus | your model is resets at each query and view is resetting focus | 15:05 |
| daitheflu | coderus: the model is a QSqlQueryModel, I thought it would be enough | 15:05 |
| coderus | well, no | 15:05 |
| daitheflu | I came to the same conclusion, I was just wondering if there was a workaround :) | 15:05 |
| coderus | i thought you already used proxy model if using searchfield :) | 15:05 |
| coderus | xkr47: no, check lipstick qml files | 15:06 |
| coderus | terminal have no cover, just view translated to small window in cover area | 15:06 |
| daitheflu | so there's no way to use a SearchField with a QSqlQueryModel, that's kinda disconcerting | 15:06 |
| coderus | daitheflu: why no, just use proxy model over it | 15:07 |
| coderus | its always best if you have search field | 15:07 |
| daitheflu | coderus: because it means I have to load all the data from the database, and then filter it | 15:07 |
| daitheflu | instead of loading just the useful stuff from the database | 15:07 |
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| daitheflu | with a lot of data, I think it can make a difference, doesn't it ? | 15:08 |
| coderus | the other possible solution is set KeepFocus on SearchField and add InverseMouseArea to clear searchfield focus | 15:09 |
| daitheflu | coderus: I don't know any of these, looks like I'll need to dive in the doc once more :) | 15:11 |
| lukedirtwalker | daitheflu: where is your code? | 15:11 |
| daitheflu | lukedirtwalker: currently, on my PC :P I usually don't push unfinished things online | 15:12 |
| daitheflu | but I can copy/paste the files somewhere if you want | 15:13 |
| daitheflu | I think coderus gave the right explanation, the model resets, the view resets with it | 15:13 |
| lukedirtwalker | yeah but you could use a different model an populate it from the database | 15:13 |
| lukedirtwalker | instead of QSqlQueryModel | 15:14 |
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| daitheflu | like using a QAbstractListModel subclass and fill it from the database using a loop ? | 15:15 |
| lukedirtwalker | yes | 15:15 |
| daitheflu | would that change something ? (performance, code maintenance, ... ?) | 15:16 |
| lukedirtwalker | then you don't have to load everything as with SortFilterModel | 15:16 |
| daitheflu | ah yep, you're right | 15:17 |
| daitheflu | thanks a lot guys :) | 15:18 |
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| daitheflu | gotta go, thanks again for your help coderus, lukedirtwalker and taaem | 15:29 |
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| * xkr47 installed this on the phone.. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/qml-mode.el :) | 16:37 | |
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| xkr47 | should openrepos.net perhaps be listed in the "Non-discriminatory stores" row here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mobile_operating_systems#Application_Ecosystem | 16:56 |
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| Nokius | krobelus: Hi, last time I shared my tox id I wondered how about generating a e.g. QR-code, just got a minute and I found out that M4artin created this https://github.com/M4rtinK/qqr.js :) | 18:59 |
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| BBLobster | Hi, I found some strange behaviour - when I create TextField with anchors.bottom: parent.bottom, qml draws text field ~50 pixels higher parent bottom | 19:39 |
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| coderus | BBLobster: what strange? | 20:22 |
| coderus | BBLobster: use your own (dummy) background if you don't want underline and offset | 20:22 |
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| coderus | textfield is not just textedit | 20:23 |
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| AlexCzar | Hi all, I've got an old battered nokia n900 with package inconsistencies, dead repositories, etc. Want to try and install sailfishos on it. Is there a way to do that? Where can I get the necessary info? | 20:47 |
| Nicd- | try #sailfishos-porters | 20:51 |
| Nicd- | maybe they'll know | 20:51 |
| AlexCzar | thanks | 20:52 |
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