Tuesday, 2015-06-09

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jaacoppihm, the sailfishos coding guidelines say there should be no more than 4 items in a pull down menu, and since 1.1.6 the email app has 505:19
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zGrrmoin :)05:23
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HBP_jaacoppi: vendor doesn't need to follow their own guidelines. Since when you have seen Microsoft following their own UI guidelies :)06:21
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Hartzijaacoppi: I don't see that as absolute no no. It's more like a suggestion or "please do it this way".06:23
HartziFunny. The menu items looks like X in finnish in email app06:25
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jaacoppiyou must be a pirate for the pirate's code to apply and you're not. And thirdly, the code is more06:31
jaacoppiwhat you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.06:31
jaacoppistupid paste ruined my pirate joke06:31
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TemeVjaacoppi: does pirate's code apply to web pirates?06:38
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Pete8Any idea how to control notification LED from QT ??07:01
spiiroinPete8: depends what you're doing, but eventually it boils down to: having a led pattern in config file & activating it via dbus07:03
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b0bbenmorning all07:17
Stskeepsmorn07:17
kimmoliPete8: echo 255 > ./kernel/debug/pm8xxx-led-dbg/led:rgb_blue/brightness07:18
b0bbeni'm trying to figure out when the virtual keyboard shows up and disappears07:18
b0bbeni thought the activeFocus of the searchfield with toggle, but it doesn't :/07:18
b0bbenso, my question is: does anyone know how I can react to VKB showing/disappearing?07:19
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b0bbeni need to hide my Now Playing Bar when VKB is up, and show it once VKB is gone07:19
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kimmolib0bben: i just did that.. somewhere07:19
b0bbenkimmoli: sweet! any pointers to code would be greatly appreciated07:19
b0bbenonFocusChanged07:21
b0bbengmm07:21
b0bbenhmm07:21
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b0bbeni was trying to probe activeFocus, but looking at the SearchField.qml source I should probably try onFocusChanged07:21
b0bbenBRB ;)07:21
b0bbenno dice :/07:22
kimmoliQt.inputMethod.visible07:23
kimmolihttp://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtqml-qt.html#inputMethod-prop07:23
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kimmolibut that is no signal07:28
kimmolimaybe assing it to a property bool inputVisible: Qt.inputMethod.visible  and then make a slot for that; onInputVisibleChanged: {}07:29
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Pete8kimmoli: Nice!! I test this.07:33
kimmolib0bben: https://gist.github.com/kimmoli/b29e35039fde474cfa4d07:34
TofeinputMethod.visible will not necessarily tell you that the focus has changed, just that you have switch from non-focused to focused07:36
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TofeIf you go from a text input to another, visible won't change07:36
kimmolibut it answers original question " when the virtual keyboard shows up and disappears"07:37
Tofeoh. Sorry, didn't read that far.07:37
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kimmolifocus seems to remain true even if you change to another app07:39
kimmoliso it when you return to original app, the same field will have focus07:40
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Pete8kimmoli: thanks! I test this, strange that there is no other way than shell access...07:41
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kimmolias said by spiiroin ^07:41
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kimmolibut you can access those 'files' from Qt, or any C-code07:42
Pete8where this /kernel directory is?07:42
kimmoliah . = /sys07:42
Pete8yeah07:42
Pete8thanks07:42
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kimmolithat "debug" in path smells like it might/will be dropped of on some future update07:43
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spiiroinPete8: /sys/class/leds/led:rgb_*/brightness07:44
urjaman...07:44
Pete8Thanks! Got it working. This is great!07:44
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spiirointhat is: if you want to bypass the the normal functionality - in which case you might want to stop os from using the leds: mcetool --disable-led07:46
kimmoliafaik, /debug/.. is only that can be accesed as nemo07:46
Pete8Ok, I think this is what I need...07:49
kimmolispiiroin: is there a "harbour-" approved way to ass led pattern configs?07:49
kimmoli*add07:49
spiiroinkimmoli: basically all that is needed is adding - say - /etc/mce/90-myapp-leds.ini from package + dbus call to mce; no idea if adding config files to system dirs is allowed though07:51
kimmolino they are not07:52
kimmolibut using existing pattern should work nice (?)07:53
kimmolii.e. invoking such over dbus07:53
SfietKonstantinWbtw, will the tablet have a led07:53
SfietKonstantinWmorning o/07:53
kimmolim07:54
kimmoliat least one big white07:54
SfietKonstantinWbig white led ?07:54
SfietKonstantinWsure that you are not confusing it with the screen ? (:D)07:54
kimmoliif it has led-flash, and yes ofc, backlight07:54
SfietKonstantinWhaha07:55
SfietKonstantinWok07:55
spiiroinkimmoli: I don't really know about specifics of harbour rules, but it is just a dbus call and those seem to be accepted...07:55
kimmolispiiroin: yes, making custom led pattern is no-go, invoking existing is ok07:56
spiiroinbut without a custom pattern it is easy to conflict with os functionality07:56
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kimmolii usually go "hmm, led is on, turn phone around to check from toholed what it now wants"07:57
spiiroinkimmoli: with usual warning "things might change", the "PatternCommunication" is some relic from past that is not used by os ...07:59
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b0bbenkimmoli: that worked wonders, thx for the help! i owe you some Spotify stickers ;)08:05
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daithefluHi08:07
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b0bbenanother q: is it possible to override an onClicked signal in parent08:26
b0bbensay i have a delegate which has onClicked, but I wanna override it in the list delegate definition08:26
b0bbenmaybe I can just send the necessary data down to the delegate instead08:27
b0bbennvm08:28
SfietKonstantinWb0bben: tell us about the use-case08:28
SfietKonstantinWthe best is to send data08:28
b0bbentoo tired this morning ;)08:28
b0bbenmaking simple things complicated08:28
* b0bben goes for another cup of coffee...08:28
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carepackthen something went definetely wrong.09:45
carepackthen something went definetely wrong.09:46
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coderusspiiroin: what dbus calls? you need mce patterns + ngfd profile + profiled fields + notification.15:35
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coderuskimmoli: /etc/mce + /usr/share/ngfd/events.d + /etc/profiled + /usr/share/lipstick/notificationcategories15:38
coderusso some custom dummy notification can blink your favorite led pattern and you also can change it on the fly with profiled15:39
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Stskeepsb0bben: your hackweek project looks great :)15:45
locusfyeah its gorgeus, I gotta get the premium now :)15:49
urjamani have the premium but i dont get why you see the need to get premium now15:50
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locusfI got only unlimited15:50
urjamanit looks great, but i'm most just saddened by these showings of inside stuff ...15:50
locusfand I presume that this implementation relies on the native library15:51
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locusfwhich essentially requires premium15:51
locusfunlike the android application which has free playing even without unlimited15:52
urjamani couldnt stand the android app free mode for like 5 mins ... a weird experiment in psychology or something15:54
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urjamantried it once (when i didnt have premium) and after a bit just closed it15:55
tathhuWhat, you don't like adds? :D15:55
tathhuAnd other stupid stuff which free has15:55
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urjamanwell its not the adds, its the "i wont play what you want to play"15:56
urjamanit is any playlist on shuffle, except that you cant have a playlist of too few songs, it'll add more songs from the artist15:56
urjamani used the free mode windows client just fine ...15:57
locusf+ 20 hour play limit15:58
locusfper month15:58
Yanielgood thing most stuff I listen to is not available on spotify anyway15:58
locusftrue, I miss Tool15:58
tathhuOh...15:59
tathhuDamn15:59
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tortoisedocwoohoo16:24
tortoisedoci love this update :)16:24
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spiiroincoderus: if you want just led, then the bare minimum is 1) pattern conf in /etc/mce/ 2) com.nokia.mce.request.req_led_pattern_activate(pattern)16:35
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coderusspiiroin: in any way, dbus calls are NOT restricted in harbour, but files under /etc yes16:57
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kimmolicoderus: nome17:27
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WntI'm trying to build maep from sources using the Sailfish OS ide. It seems to depend on packages that are not installed in the SDK virtual machine. How can I get them installed? https://github.com/dcaliste/maep-qt/blob/master/src/maep.pro#L617:49
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Wntso the dependencies are listed in the .pro file in "PKGCONFIG += gobject-2.0 ..." and builds fail with message "Project ERROR: gobject-2.0 development package not found"17:51
kimmoliWnt: http://127.0.0.1:8080 ?17:53
kimmolior those should be in spec as BuildRequires17:53
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Wntkimmoli: thanks! searching and installing them through there seems to get me forward17:58
Wntor not...18:00
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Wntcould not find anything matching gobject-2.0, but tried installing pygobject2. The build error message changed to something else for a while, but now it's again complaining "gobject-2.0 development package not found"18:02
Wntah, maybe cairo-gobject-devel was the right package18:04
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r0kk3rzyeah package names can be a pain sometimes18:06
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Accecan someone point me to a QThread example which works with qml? I've trying to do it the way in the documentation examples, but they are using widgets and for some reason the same approach freezes the qml ui..18:09
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Accefor example this, which suggest subclassing qthread (no event loop) http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtcore-threads-mandelbrot-example.html18:12
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WntNow I got it to build but when trying to create a rpm package it's complaining about a missing spec file https://paste.kde.org/plthsvnpk18:15
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b0bbenStskeeps: thx! glad you like it :)19:31
kimmoliany tips to avoid this... "Please do not hard code the path to any subfolders in /home/nemo." usecase: I have a GUI app which can be run also from command-line, and also as root. But needs to access QSettings also when run as root, but they are under nemo's home. QSettings as root point to /root/.config... (suprice)19:37
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kimmoliis QSettings::SystemScope allowed in harbour? i assume not, as they go to /etc/xdg/...19:41
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coderuskimmoli: "/home" + "/nemo" :D19:53
kimmoliyes i can play dirty ofc...19:55
coderusAcce: what you need?19:55
coderusthere is no difference qml/not qml19:58
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Nokiuskimmoli: is it posibile to check the size of the gist and if it to big (for a normal Text document / picture) to show a oops file to big to preview21:28
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Accecoderus: actually I was accidentally emitting signals so fast from the other thread it was becoming meaningless, so it was just a stupid error ^^'21:32
mgroveram attempting to use a BusyIndicator, but I always get this error I get a ReferenceError: Model is not defined21:32
mgroverdo I need to set what Model.Loading is myself/21:32
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MoritzJTSorry to bother you, do you by any chance know the download size of latest opt in update?21:42
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mgrovertheres a new opt in?21:43
mgroveris that for 2.0?21:43
Nokiuskimmoli: muh it makes no seance to change it to value: (thisGist.size / (1024*1024)).toFixed(2) + " MB" most of my gist are to small or to big :D21:43
NokiusMoritzJT: mh u need 1,5GB free space21:44
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MoritzJTmgrover: it's not 2.0 - it's 1.1.621:44
NokiusMoritzJT: iirc its around 6xxMB21:45
MoritzJTfree space for btrfs rebalancing, but the download could be smaller21:45
Nokiusmh wo to see it after the update21:45
MoritzJTNokius: thx, damn am on roaming, was hoping for <15021:45
mgrovermind linking me to opt in?21:45
MoritzJTmgrover: https://blog.jolla.com/early-access-sailfish-os-aaslakkajarvi/21:47
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mgroveropted in, ill elt you know what it says21:51
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MoritzJTmgrover: did you or anyone say sth? got disconnected21:53
mgrovernahh21:54
mgroverwell i said i opted in21:54
mgroverbut it hasnt come up for me21:55
MoritzJTok21:55
MoritzJTgive it some time21:55
NokiusMoritzJT: there is no info in offical statment on tjc about the size sorrz21:56
Nokius*sorry21:56
urjamanyou can ask the phone to ask for updates ...21:57
mgroverwhats the force thing so I can run version --something22:00
mgroverill force it onto the 1.1.6 repo and run that yeah22:01
Nokiusgn8 and don't break stuff22:02
mgroverjolla no longer primary sailfish phone so tis okay22:05
MoritzJTNokius: Danke22:07
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SaberAltriaHello22:25
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