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| Thaodan | anyone tried the MSM DCVS cpufreq governor? | 00:01 |
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| chris37879 | So, I heard about some new Sailfish OS announcements and decided to give the OS a look again. I must say I'm disappointed at the misleading advertising on sailfish.org. "Sailfish OS can run Android™ applications." No. It can't. Jolla Sailfish can, but the actual opensource project that I can use on my Nexus 5 cannot. | 00:02 |
| chris37879 | Does anyone know if Jolla has said anything about this? Are they planning on maybe putting the Android Support app up in the store as a paid option for everyone? | 00:03 |
| coderus | chris37879: #jollamobile please | 00:04 |
| coderus | this one is development :) | 00:04 |
| chris37879 | Ah ok, I'll go post over there. | 00:05 |
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| adherry | Anyone else has the problem, that the Telephone app does not show callers and the messages app doesn’T show you sms any more? | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | adherry: contact care :) | 09:56 |
| adherry | contact care? | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | jolla.zendesk.com | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like an issue they might know about | 09:56 |
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| adherry | hmm, can’t find anything. | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok, make a request there then | 10:03 |
| adherry | Yay, finally I can write my first critical bug report | 10:03 |
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| adherry | hope they fix it fast | 10:10 |
| adherry | phone not showing who called is bad | 10:10 |
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| adherry | Think I should also write a bug report for “Unpronouncable release names” | 10:20 |
| Nicd- | I can pronounce it just fine, maybe it's you ;) | 10:20 |
| kontio | not a bug, works as intended :) | 10:21 |
| adherry | Äijänpäivänjärvi how do you pronounce that | 10:21 |
| Nicd- | just like you wrote it | 10:21 |
| kontio | Äijänpäivänjärvi :) | 10:21 |
| Nicd- | though the second n is kind of silent so it easily turns into äijänpäiväjjärvi | 10:22 |
| Yaniel | depends on your dialect I guess | 10:23 |
| adherry | Northern Europeans…. | 10:23 |
| adherry | all those wierd names | 10:23 |
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| coderus | weird? really? so polite, i like it ^_^ | 11:22 |
| ln- | nicely translitterates to "Яийянпяивянйярви" or something :) | 11:28 |
| zGrr | Is that finnish? | 11:29 |
| coderus | it should be something like эйэнпэйвэйэрви | 11:33 |
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| ln- | coderus: dunno, my russian book just said that 'ä' in finnish names is often translitterated as 'я'. | 11:39 |
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| coderus | ln-: but äi should be "эй". "я" is ja | 11:40 |
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| ln- | ah, ok | 11:40 |
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| coderus | i thought jolla posted pronounce of this release name somewhere... | 11:40 |
| coderus | i cant find it | 11:40 |
| locusf | ? is in Finland's Novosti Yle | 11:41 |
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| Nicd- | locusf: your charset is probably wrong. unless you meant to say that '? is ä' | 11:42 |
| locusf | Nicd-: argh my raspberry pi irssi still doesn't know about utf8 | 11:42 |
| Nicd- | eww, latin-1 peasant ;) | 11:43 |
| Yaniel | *arch | 11:43 |
| Yaniel | worked perfectly fine | 11:43 |
| zGrr | эйэнпэйвэйэрви? Mongolian? | 11:44 |
| nib_ | :D | 11:45 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 11:57 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, d855 reacted well | 12:06 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but i didn't understand QCOM_BSP thing | 12:07 |
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| locusf | dr_gogeta86: nice, good job :) | 12:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | there are some problems | 12:19 |
| dr_gogeta86 | battery doesn't charge | 12:19 |
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| chem|st | how do I capture pictures on terminal? All I get going atm is to crash the qcamera daemon... | 12:44 |
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| gooby | hello | 13:03 |
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| gooby | Hello. | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | hello hello | 13:04 |
| chem|st | . | 13:04 |
| gooby | howdy guise? | 13:04 |
| chem|st | disguise? | 13:04 |
| gooby | how's sailfish os is going? | 13:05 |
| gooby | when will it be released? | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | it's already on market for ages | 13:06 |
| gooby | rly? saw it today | 13:08 |
| gooby | does Russian govt. support it? | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | sailfishos.org, we've shipped a phone with sailfishos already, and a tablet is coming | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | jolla.com | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | so it's very much real :) | 13:09 |
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| coderus | gooby: shop.jolla.com | 13:10 |
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| gooby | nice, I am glad for this | 13:11 |
| gooby | I love Russian and Chinese people, this is why I am here. | 13:13 |
| Nicd- | note that the stuff about russians choosing sailfish as their mobile os is mostly speculation at this point. they have just engaged in talks with eachother | 13:14 |
| Nicd- | at least that's the official story at this point I think | 13:14 |
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| Thaodan | anyone with an idea how use cmake with the sailfish sdk? | 17:25 |
| coderus | Thaodan: without qt creator of cource :) | 17:28 |
| coderus | or try to setup own build process | 17:28 |
| Thaodan | coderus: or someone else, do you know how I can execute commands on the vm?(to write a build script to gen soures and build the pkg) | 17:29 |
| krobelus | ssh | 17:30 |
| coderus | Thaodan: RTFM? https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/develop-faq/ | 17:31 |
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| Thaodan | so I need to write my own spec file or not? | 17:41 |
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| coderus | sure | 17:42 |
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| coderus | default dpec is for qmake | 17:42 |
| coderus | spec* | 17:42 |
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| Nokius | is there a way to restart clipboard without rebooting ? | 18:04 |
| toerb | https://things.toerb.de/rich_vs_styled.png | 18:04 |
| toerb | how can I make the StyledText look like the RichText without the huge vertical spacings before and after the text? | 18:05 |
| coderus | Thaodan: remove p tags | 18:05 |
| coderus | Nokius: restart clipboard? it's something new :D | 18:06 |
| coderus | try restart lipstick | 18:06 |
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| toerb | coderus: you mean me and not Thaodan? | 18:06 |
| Nokius | coderus: ah losing open apps okay if it's better then reboot | 18:06 |
| coderus | toerb: you :) | 18:07 |
| coderus | Nokius: i'm just guessing :) | 18:07 |
| Nokius | coderus: better then me | 18:08 |
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| Nokius | coderus: did What I wanted :D | 18:09 |
| Nokius | thx | 18:09 |
| Osanwe | Hi all! On the Sailfish OS website is writed follow: "Developers are able to hook into frameworks via plug-ins and thus speed up development time. A single plug-in is normally much easier to develop than a full UI for service features." Where can I find the description of the API for plugins? | 18:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | Osanwe: got a link? | 18:14 |
| Osanwe | r0kk3rz: I've read it here https://sailfishos.org/design/design-principles/ | 18:18 |
| olpe | ls | 18:18 |
| olpe | sorry | 18:19 |
| coderus | Osanwe: nobody knows what is it :D | 18:19 |
| Osanwe | :) | 18:20 |
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| coderus | marketing stuff | 18:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | seems largely aspirational | 18:21 |
| r0kk3rz | but would be good to have a service framework of sorts | 18:21 |
| TemeV | well, there is e.g. telepathy | 18:22 |
| coderus | TemeV: sure, but sailfishos is not ready itself :D | 18:22 |
| tortoisedoc | there IS a service fw already no? See the accounts | 18:23 |
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| tortoisedoc | or how accounts are managed | 18:23 |
| tortoisedoc | its just not documented :P | 18:23 |
| TemeV | coderus: yeah, I know :) | 18:23 |
| tortoisedoc | and of course not allowed in harbour | 18:23 |
| TemeV | but the idea is good | 18:23 |
| coderus | TemeV: it's linux :) | 18:23 |
| Osanwe | TemeV: year, and I wanted to add new custom account | 18:24 |
| coderus | Osanwe: chat or what? | 18:25 |
| Osanwe | coderus: vk | 18:26 |
| coderus | Osanwe: well, i know only this: https://github.com/alex-eri/telepathy-eri | 18:29 |
| coderus | but no idea about it state and if it works still | 18:29 |
| Osanwe | coderus: I know it, but I develop this: https://github.com/osanwe/Kat - and want to add some information to events view | 18:31 |
| coderus | eventsview only showing notifications | 18:33 |
| Osanwe | coderus: but there is twitter, wheather, etc... | 18:33 |
| Thaodan | I think he wants to add an short cut like for facebook or tiwtter or not? | 18:33 |
| Thaodan | 18:34 | |
| coderus | post status mean? | 18:34 |
| Osanwe | coderus: post and read | 18:34 |
| coderus | i didn't checked how it works, sorry :( | 18:34 |
| Osanwe | Thaodan: exactly | 18:35 |
| Thaodan | btw: does the facebook notifcation stuff works still? | 18:35 |
| coderus | for read it have a daemon with heartbeat intefration checking for messages sometimes | 18:35 |
| Thaodan | Osanwe: I saw in a preview for sailfish 2.0 the want to restore the old eventsview from meego so this will be not needed | 18:36 |
| coderus | for other things i can't check how it works today, sorry, too exhausted :( | 18:36 |
| coderus | cant sit and open qtc for fixing my own projects :D | 18:36 |
| Thaodan | coderus: got no time to sleep? :D | 18:36 |
| TemeV | coderus: yeah, and that's the best part of the os :) I can e.g. use telepathy-morse and just create account with mc-tool. | 18:37 |
| coderus | Thaodan: will watch movie with gf and sleep then :) | 18:37 |
| Thaodan | TemeV: you got already a package for this? | 18:37 |
| TemeV | Thaodan: it's not stable | 18:37 |
| Thaodan | TemeV: I know but its not sailfish fault, but still better than the css telegram app in warehouse | 18:38 |
| TemeV | Lack of proper group chats is Sailfish fault :) | 18:39 |
| Thaodan | TemeV: ok this is a point, telepathy-kde don't has this issue | 18:40 |
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| Thaodan | Osanwe: see this video here https://youtu.be/u3VknpVQVM8?t=53s | 18:40 |
| TemeV | Anyway, I don't like to share unstable binaries. It's not that hard to compile it if you want to try experimental stuff :) | 18:40 |
| Thaodan | Osanwe: there is the new events view so thee now new api needed as far as I think | 18:41 |
| Thaodan | TemeV: I thought you made a spec file for use with the sdk | 18:41 |
| TemeV | Thaodan: yeah, I made one. So building it is really just clicking "deploy" in the sdk | 18:42 |
| TemeV | After installing telepathy-qt and telegram-qt to the sdk of course | 18:42 |
| Thaodan | TemeV: can you give me the spec file? Is there a spec file for telegram qt already? | 18:43 |
| TemeV | you dont need spec file for that | 18:43 |
| TemeV | https://github.com/TemeV/telepathy-morse/tree/GroupChatHack | 18:43 |
| TemeV | There is the specfile and my group chat hack | 18:43 |
| TemeV | you just ssh to the virtualbox and cmake, make and make install there | 18:44 |
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| Osanwe | Thaodan: I think new look will not change API generally | 18:44 |
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| Thaodan | TemeV: thanks, as for as that I was already but hadn't a working spec file, is it better that the jollagram app? | 18:45 |
| TemeV | I've only tried the very fist jollagram version, and that didn't work at all (at least for me) | 18:46 |
| TemeV | So in that regard this is much better... | 18:46 |
| Thaodan | Osanwe: this isn't what I said, I only said that you don't need to make a shurtcut here | 18:46 |
| Yaniel | the latest version of jollagram kind of works | 18:47 |
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| Thaodan | TemeV: I've tested jollagram a bit, it works but Has some issues like a crash at stark for some users, but know it works | 18:47 |
| Thaodan | but I don't like the ui | 18:47 |
| Thaodan | and I don't like having a seperate app when I can have just a telepathy-plugin | 18:48 |
| TemeV | Morse still lacks sending/receiving pictures etc | 18:48 |
| Thaodan | I ried initial picture supports is done | 18:48 |
| Thaodan | at least in telegram-qt | 18:49 |
| TemeV | Yeah, telegram-qt does have some support | 18:49 |
| TemeV | afaik morse doesn't | 18:49 |
| Osanwe | Thaodan: But there are views of the last messages. Just wait Sailfish OS 2.0 ;) | 18:50 |
| TemeV | I'm doing some research to see if I could easily hack jolla messaging app to receive pictures and group chats | 18:50 |
| Thaodan | but the change was 4 Days ago so this needs so just wait | 18:50 |
| Thaodan | I think more important is message sync | 18:51 |
| Thaodan | between clients | 18:51 |
| TemeV | It kind of works. At least I receive all the messages that have been sent while the phone was offline | 18:52 |
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| TemeV | Even if I've read them with other client | 18:52 |
| Thaodan | TemeV: but not your own message or not= | 18:52 |
| TemeV | I'm not sure actually. My phone is usually online :) | 18:53 |
| TemeV | I can try | 18:53 |
| TemeV | oh, it doesn't work. I remebered wrong | 18:55 |
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| rydare | am I right in assuming that android app compatibility still isn't available on Sailfish for Nexus 4? will it ever happen? | 19:13 |
| kimmoli | any other infor from pageStach than busy? it just shows that the slide-animation-transition is going on. but it is not 'true' when you slide cancel/accept with finger on screen. it goes active when allow transition to continue by releasing finger. meh. | 19:13 |
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| Thaodan | rydare: I think no, its css | 19:16 |
| Thaodan | noone can port except the myrad group | 19:16 |
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| lukedirtwalker | are there mime icons stored somewhere? | 19:17 |
| rydare | ah okay, i found a nexus 4 on kijiji(a la craigslist) and was thinking about getting it to tinker with Sailfish | 19:17 |
| Thaodan | rydare: the problem is that is a complicated task I think, don't know if there a more changes needed except for userspace | 19:18 |
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| Thaodan | as I heard sailfish is still at linux 3.4 because of android | 19:19 |
| Yaniel | nope | 19:20 |
| Yaniel | it's because qualcomm | 19:20 |
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| Thaodan | whats their problem? | 19:21 |
| Yaniel | they don't give a <insert propane noun> | 19:21 |
| Yaniel | basically they only have driver blobs for a certain kernel | 19:23 |
| tortoisedoc | Yaniel : Propane? | 19:25 |
| Yaniel | *profane | 19:25 |
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| tortoisedoc | http://www.blackhawkpropane.com/site_media/media/gallery/images/Blackhawk_Propane_Residential_Pictures_057.jpg | 19:25 |
| lucysan | Guys, any idea why I'm getting bash: /home/src1/: is a directory when trying to build an RPM? | 19:26 |
| Yaniel | propane burns nicely though | 19:27 |
| lucysan | OK, fixed it, wither with reloading kernel modules or adding user to virtualbox group | 19:32 |
| lucysan | s/wither/either | 19:33 |
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| Aoyagi_trashtop | http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/19/russia_plans_fork_sailfish_combat_western_spooks/ seen? | 19:54 |
| stephg | yup | 19:55 |
| Nicd- | Aoyagi_trashtop: already partly debunked: http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/19/8624901/russia-mobile-os-sailfish-jolla-tizen | 19:55 |
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| Nicd- | they're not planning their own fork | 19:56 |
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| Aoyagi_trashtop | oh | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | anybody who wants to work on their own base system is insane | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | that's why we keep us loonies in jolla | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:57 |
| kimmoli | :) | 19:58 |
| stephg | best place for you :) | 19:58 |
| Aoyagi_trashtop | Eh, I'd prefer someone who was willing to make a sturdy powerful smartphone :P | 19:59 |
| stephg | Aoyagi_trashtop: I'd not read too much into everything you read on the internet ;) | 19:59 |
| Acce | making perfect products is bad business | 19:59 |
| Aoyagi_trashtop | Yeah, I imagine. | 20:00 |
| Acce | because you only sell them once :) | 20:00 |
| Aoyagi_trashtop | That's why Saab went under, isn't it. | 20:00 |
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| Dodo | sure | 20:00 |
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| Nokius | Aoyagi_trashtop: :) I was just over this | 20:09 |
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| lukedirtwalker | where are jolla app icons stored? | 20:25 |
| stephg | lukedirtwalker: somewhere under /usr/share? | 20:25 |
| lukedirtwalker | stephg: yeah but not in /usr/share/applications | 20:26 |
| coderus | lukedirtwalker: app icons are in icons folder | 20:26 |
| lukedirtwalker | coderus: I meant icons but jolla ones are not htere | 20:26 |
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| coderus | jolla icons are in themes folder | 20:28 |
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| lukedirtwalker | coderus: hm okay thanks | 20:31 |
| Thaodan | how can I add build deps in qt creator? | 20:46 |
| Thaodan | qt website is off | 20:46 |
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| Dodo | you mean qt.io ? | 20:47 |
| Thaodan | no qt.digia.cin | 20:50 |
| Thaodan | *com | 20:50 |
| Thaodan | cause I want to build telegram qt and it complains about a missing header | 20:50 |
| stephg | bedtiem, night folks | 20:56 |
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| Dodo | good night :) | 20:57 |
| coderus | Thaodan: give more details, nobody want guessing | 20:57 |
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| Thaodan | I want to say qtcreator to add openssl-devel as build dep for the header I need | 20:58 |
| Thaodan | how can I do this? | 20:58 |
| TemeV | Thaodan: I don't think you can build and install telegram-qt from qt creator | 21:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | sure you can, you just need to install the lib onto the build vm | 21:03 |
| TemeV | there is a way to install it from qt creator? | 21:03 |
| r0kk3rz | theres the sailfish menu | 21:04 |
| r0kk3rz | where you can install some things | 21:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | of which it seems openssl is available | 21:04 |
| r0kk3rz | so in qtc > sailfishos > targets > arm > manage | 21:05 |
| TemeV | yeah that of course. But I mean telegram-qt library it self | 21:05 |
| r0kk3rz | that you would need to put on the build vm yourself | 21:05 |
| r0kk3rz | or link it in statically | 21:05 |
| TemeV | yes, and you can't do that from qt cretor afaik | 21:05 |
| r0kk3rz | no, you do that in the vm, but you can still build from qtc | 21:06 |
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| TemeV | yes, but if you need cli anyway, might as well build there | 21:07 |
| r0kk3rz | whatever works for you, i dont consider these things to be mutually exclusive | 21:08 |
| Thaodan | I builded the lib fine thanks to r0kk3rz but qtc don't generated a yaml file out of the pro file | 21:09 |
| r0kk3rz | Thaodan: you dont really need a yaml, you need a spec | 21:09 |
| Thaodan | or that | 21:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | yaml is used to generate spec, but most of us find it easier to just write the spec ourselves | 21:10 |
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| TemeV | I think the yaml is generated when creating the project | 21:11 |
| TemeV | you can create a new library project to get a hint what the yaml should look like | 21:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Spectacle << is the contents of the yaml | 21:15 |
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| Thaodan | TemeV: how do you builded the pkg? | 21:53 |
| Thaodan | telegram-qt | 21:54 |
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| coderus | Thaodan: i just cloned telegram-qt and compied it with qmake && make with no any problems | 22:23 |
| Thaodan | me too, but there's no install target | 22:24 |
| Thaodan | the procest uses cmake too | 22:24 |
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| coderus | http://i.imgur.com/rLXy8RN.png | 22:26 |
| coderus | no it's not using cmake if you don't want to use it | 22:26 |
| coderus | screenshot from my jolla | 22:26 |
| coderus | even keyboard works :D | 22:27 |
| Thaodan | but how made it to generate a rpm package? | 22:27 |
| coderus | http://i.imgur.com/PM2XR8W.png | 22:28 |
| coderus | make a spec file for it | 22:28 |
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| Thaodan | I've done but it complained about missing install target in makefile | 22:29 |
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