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| duke_leto | ahoy :) | 07:44 |
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| duke_leto | So, I’d like to get into automated testing of QML code. A minimal example worked so far, but I’m stuck when trying to test types that import Silica. qmltestrunner says “module "Sailfish.Silica" is not installed”. Has anyone got a hint for me? :) | 08:13 |
| chriadam|away | QML2_IMPORT_PATH set to the /usr/lib/qt5/qml/ ? | 08:15 |
| chriadam|away | run with QT_DEBUG_PLUGINS=1 | 08:16 |
| duke_leto | are those environment variables? | 08:16 |
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| chriadam|away | yes | 08:20 |
| duke_leto | OK, this might have been misunderstood: I’m trying to get it to run on my development machine, a debian linux. Is this possible at all or do I have to do the build - deploy thing every time I want to run unit tests? | 08:22 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | duke_leto: there is no silica on desktop, so you have to either run ut on emulator / jolla | 08:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | or strip silica from your ut | 08:33 |
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| locusf | you can run silica on rpi2 :) | 08:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | lainwir3d: :) | 08:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah, it was for locusf | 08:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 08:34 |
| duke_leto | okay :) | 08:35 |
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| duke_leto | It might be a good idea to push the silica stuff as far out as possible, anyway | 08:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | duke_leto: what are you trying to test. If it is in QML side it is probably some logic stuff written in js. Put it in a js file and test it with plain qtquick | 08:37 |
| duke_leto | SfietKonstantinW: true, that should be my first step. But there’s binding stuff that I’d like to have tests for as well | 08:38 |
| duke_leto | Okay, one step at a time :) First, extracting the JS | 08:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | duke_leto: what kind of binding ? can't you bind with a dummy object ? | 08:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | too bad that in QML you cannot implement interfaces. This limits the tdd approach | 08:40 |
| duke_leto | SfietKonstantinW: huh. I’ll have to look into this. Probably. I’m really new to qml and only about a year in tdd, so thanks for reminding me of dummies :D | 08:41 |
| lainwir3d | SfietKonstantinW: whut ?! | 08:42 |
| lainwir3d | :) | 08:42 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | lainwir3d: bad highlight | 08:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | kiwiirc's highlight autocompletion is just bad | 08:47 |
| lainwir3d | it's alright | 08:48 |
| lainwir3d | You allowed me to escape a bit from my work | 08:48 |
| lainwir3d | \o/ | 08:48 |
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| iekku | wooh! my screen died during my vacation and just now realized i haven't joined back | 12:04 |
| iekku | thanks jhakala for pinging | 12:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 12:05 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | hi iekku :) | 12:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | wb | 12:05 |
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| Aoyagi_trashtop | That fish is an April Fool's thing or are they keeping it? Cuz I like that. | 15:00 |
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| Yaniel | what fish? | 15:05 |
| Aoyagi_trashtop | https://sailfishos.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/sailfish_hero.jpg | 15:06 |
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| Yaniel | I think I have seen that before | 15:07 |
| raa700 | yeah | 15:11 |
| raa700 | that's a sailfish | 15:11 |
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| sledges | mal-: side-ways swiping will show homescreen, not the feeds (from our discussion on sfos2 design at #sailfishos-porters ) | 15:46 |
| mal- | does it matter where it starts? | 15:47 |
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| mal- | I mean if I swipe from the middle of the screen to the side or from the side of the middle | 15:48 |
| mal- | *to | 15:49 |
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| sledges | mal-: being in wher? | 15:49 |
| mal- | in app | 15:49 |
| sledges | in app? middle of screen is app dependent | 15:50 |
| sledges | edge-swipes are compositor dependent | 15:50 |
| mal- | ok, that was not very clearly said anywhere | 15:50 |
| sledges | i would break all apps' page transitions if middle flick was taken away by compositor | 15:51 |
| GodGinrai | sledges: by changing the app cards to use buttons rather than gestures for their actions, it decreases the ease-of-use of the app card functions. Also, I just noticed that your argument against left-right buttons doesn't make sense because you wouldn't have to lift your hand to use them. | 15:51 |
| mal- | I'm trying to figure out an easy way to make custom "page" transition, i.e. capturing the swipe to change something | 15:52 |
| sledges | mal-: im sure you can do that | 15:53 |
| sledges | and this channel might have the answer:) | 15:53 |
| jaacoppi | probably with pagestack | 15:54 |
| mal- | but the problem might be that usually you get to the previous page automatically with swipe to right | 15:54 |
| jaacoppi | I'm also trying to figure it out | 15:54 |
| mal- | but I don't want to use pagestack, just use one page that I can control | 15:54 |
| mal- | for example changing the channel when watching tv on the device | 15:55 |
| sledges | GodGinrai: i like swiping app covers, and sad to lose them, but adding left/right buttons to a buttonless interface would break minimalist design principles (our designers might have other explanations, is just how i see it, im not a designer), so making buttons on covers was less of a visual sacrifice | 15:56 |
| jaacoppi | yeah, I'm trying to get next and previous comic strip | 15:56 |
| mal- | of course it's possible to use pagestack for that but somehow seem odd | 15:56 |
| sledges | GodGinrai: also those buttons should be at lower corners in order not to make user lift palms off | 15:56 |
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| GodGinrai | sledges: so instead they added buttons to *every* app card. That's even less minimalist | 15:56 |
| sledges | GodGinrai: but visually it is not seen, they are remaining as part of iconic app covers | 15:58 |
| sledges | adding two buttons at bottom would remind of very well known OSs, making it practically indistinguishable | 15:58 |
| sledges | and pressing a buttong to transition a page is another breaking of sailfish ux paradigms | 15:59 |
| GodGinrai | yea, but they are a lot harder to use. App cards are already small, and now you have to precisely hit a small button on an unprecise capacitive screen. | 15:59 |
| sledges | page/transitions are done with swipes, be it in app, or in homescreen | 15:59 |
| GodGinrai | *imprecise | 16:00 |
| sledges | couple of days ago i tried to brainstorm a solution to this situation | 16:01 |
| sledges | what if cover swipe actions were made vertical, and hence, retained | 16:01 |
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| GodGinrai | sledges: doesn't a vertical swipe switch to the lockscreen? | 16:02 |
| GodGinrai | and app menu | 16:02 |
| sledges | no, only top edge swipe | 16:02 |
| sledges | app grid would have to be sacrificed | 16:02 |
| sledges | but you can never get around without sacrifices | 16:02 |
| GodGinrai | I think it would make more sense to just sacrifice homescreen panning. What exactly does that accomplish, anyway? | 16:03 |
| sledges | also app grid remains as bottom-edge wipe, which is at your thumbtips anyway ;) | 16:03 |
| toerb | are there some slides or infos about the sfos2 design? | 16:03 |
| sledges | to my mind, that resembles other mobile OSs, but just enough not to confuse them | 16:03 |
| sledges | as was the most frequent feedback from new adopters | 16:04 |
| sledges | they kept swiping left right to no avail | 16:04 |
| sledges | new adopters = my android/ios friends that i showed them sfos1 | 16:04 |
| sledges | but again, this is my personal opinion | 16:04 |
| GodGinrai | top-edge swipe for lock screen bothers me, since I'm currently using that to exit apps on my OPO | 16:04 |
| sledges | we kept saying that MWC sfos2 demo is not final, and it's the time for feedback, jolla will listen | 16:05 |
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| sledges | and i so much hope top-edge to close will be brought back as an option | 16:05 |
| sledges | when in-app | 16:05 |
| GodGinrai | yea. Honestly, the side-swipe to close was very finicky for me | 16:06 |
| sledges | toerb: tablet/jolla1/nexus5 mwc demos is best you can get, as nothing was set in stone as you see:) | 16:07 |
| toerb | oh okay i know them. thougt there is more substantial docs like design guidelines or something like this | 16:08 |
| sledges | toerb: i think there was TJC ticket for that | 16:08 |
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| coderus | where is my first april sailfishos update?? | 16:19 |
| jaacoppi | indeed. It's time for a mutiny | 16:21 |
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| Aciid | hey does the most recent sailfish update to jolla allow empty space characters suffix in SMS's? | 18:10 |
| Aciid | I need to use a separate phone for this issue :< | 18:10 |
| Aciid | *prefix | 18:10 |
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| Aciid | for example sms: <space><space>something | 18:10 |
| Aciid | converts to: something | 18:10 |
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| coderus | why android devicce manufacturer is detected as "unknown" but model is "Jolla"? this unkown string makes me sad :( | 19:33 |
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| sakustar | coderus: :D yeah why not alien | 19:59 |
| coderus | something wrong with pkcon: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1465567#post1465567 | 20:01 |
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