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| Ponchale | hi people | 01:11 |
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| Ponchale | how are you | 01:11 |
| Ponchale | i have a question | 01:12 |
| Ponchale | someone is available? | 01:12 |
| R-Z | always | 01:15 |
| R-Z | not that i would know much about sailfish | 01:15 |
| R-Z | but i can do my best | 01:15 |
| Ponchale | we like the sailfish operating system and would like to develop an operating system based on such've read that the source code is free but you are depriving some even so all code is free, modified and improved? | 01:16 |
| R-Z | drivers for the device which you are planning to develop the os on will most likely be closed source | 01:19 |
| R-Z | i believe that the sailfish os is on github | 01:19 |
| Ponchale | would first implement the system in the phones handled by sailfish and then deploy it to own mobile | 01:21 |
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| Ponchale | Operating system not found github | 01:37 |
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| chriadam | Ponchale: SailfishOS consists of several "layers". You can see them here: https://sailfishos.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Sailfish_Architecture_v0.5.1.png | 02:01 |
| chriadam | all of the Green colours bits come from MerProject or NemoMobile project. | 02:02 |
| chriadam | the Purple bits up the very top are proprietary Jolla things, not found in the open repos | 02:02 |
| chriadam | the Purple bits on the right are things which Jolla has licensed from other companies (if I understand correctly) | 02:03 |
| chriadam | the Grey bits at the bottom are (as mentioned) dependent on the chipset vendor. | 02:03 |
| chriadam | So, the core operating system is all the green stuff in the middle (linux + the package management stuff + the standard libraries and graphics stack + the system libs, connectivity stuff, multimedia stuff, etc, + Qt5.2 and middleware libraries and services) | 02:04 |
| chriadam | that's all open, and available on github (and builds are managed via OBS). | 02:04 |
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| Ponchale | in no way can be done by accessing Jolla and start with that base? | 03:14 |
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| coderus | sakustar: yes | 05:39 |
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| coderus | Ponchale: you don't need Jolla, you need to contact Mer/nemomobile and create os based on mer mw, not jolla/sailfishos | 05:41 |
| Ponchale | as sailfish create offers based oem for allies seek alliance with jolla been a while since we go for a month and no response is outrageous that | 05:43 |
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| tbr | Ponchale: it's not unusual for business contacts to take a while to establish. Also as you've been told, repeatedly by people here, they just were at MWC and have a big backlog of companies to contact, including you. | 05:48 |
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| Ponchale | have some phone number of the office in finland provide me? | 05:50 |
| tbr | I don't. Have you tried checking their webpage? | 05:52 |
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| Ponchale | if not this :( | 05:57 |
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| olpe | So coderus: are we soon going to see 2 whatsapp clients? I mean whatsup and if you are working on a client too? | 08:23 |
| * tortoisedoc ducks | 08:30 | |
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| coderus | olpe: yes, i'm working on best flexible fully opensource client based on cool opensource wa library which i'm currently developing | 08:50 |
| olpe | cool ;) lookimg forward to kick android wa out of my phone again | 08:51 |
| coderus | yeah | 08:52 |
| olpe | argh need #TOHKBD now ^ | 08:52 |
| duke_leto | aren’t the wa people constantly changing their api to prevent third-party apps? Or has that changed? | 08:52 |
| coderus | duke_leto: no, your information is wrong | 08:52 |
| duke_leto | so, they are okay with third-party clients? | 08:53 |
| coderus | duke_leto: no, but they can't properly detect us | 08:53 |
| duke_leto | cool :) | 08:53 |
| coderus | i have many cool hacks for it :) | 08:53 |
| bluszcz | my best hack for whatsup was 'uninstall' and moving friends to real xmpp ;) but unfortunatutely 80% ppl i snot moveable ;( | 08:54 |
| duke_leto | yes, some seem to be stuck ;-) | 08:55 |
| olpe | Can't wait coderus | 08:55 |
| coderus | bluszcz: latest whatsapp using cool textsecure, it's cool :) | 08:56 |
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| bluszcz | coderus: official whatsup is using textsecure? | 08:58 |
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| olpe | Any alpha release that needs testing ? coderus | 09:03 |
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| coderus|backup | any messages for me? | 09:32 |
| coderus|backup | my vps down, logged it from pc temporary :D | 09:33 |
| coderus|backup | olpe: no, library is not finished yet | 09:33 |
| coderus|backup | and it will be public release definetly, i don't like releases behind curtains | 09:33 |
| coderus|backup | bluszcz: official whatsup? | 09:34 |
| olpe | ok coderus|backup | 09:36 |
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| duke_leto | hey everyone :) How can I make a ListView in a Column take up all available vertical space? | 09:41 |
| duke_leto | SilicaListView, to be precise | 09:41 |
| olpe | duke_leto height: parent.height? | 09:42 |
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| duke_leto | olpe, that was my first thought, but there are other elements in parent... | 09:42 |
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| duke_leto | It’s: Column { PageHeader{ } ; SilicaListView { } ; Label { }; } | 09:43 |
| olpe | oh.. | 09:44 |
| duke_leto | PageHeader and Label are fixed height, but the ListView doesn’t seem to care for the available height. Hard-coding height as per the examples seems a bit crude | 09:44 |
| duke_leto | and top and bottom anchors aren’t allowed in Column :-/ | 09:45 |
| duke_leto | Or would using another layout be better? | 09:45 |
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| coderus | duke_leto: what are you trying to do? | 09:48 |
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| duke_leto | I want a Page. It needs a PageHeader and a list. The list has below it a line with the sum of the items. | 09:49 |
| olpe | hmm I don't know. What about wrapping them in another parent element that has the PageHeader and the column inside it duke_leto? | 09:49 |
| duke_leto | The sum should be positioned at the lowest possible point and the list take all remaining space. | 09:49 |
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| duke_leto | yes, I'm trying to replace Column with Item right now, just a second | 09:50 |
| coderus | duke_leto: Page { SilicaListView { header: PageHeader {} anchors.fill: page anchors.bottomMargin: spacer.height } Label { id: spacer anchors.bottom: page.bottom } } | 09:51 |
| coderus | add more margins as you taste | 09:52 |
| duke_leto | coderus: Thanks, didn’t see the header property there. I’ll try it and be back in a minute | 09:52 |
| coderus | duke_leto: header and footer are default ListView properties | 09:54 |
| duke_leto | okay. I’m rather new to QML, so… | 09:55 |
| duke_leto | thanks for enlightening me ;-) | 09:55 |
| duke_leto | coderus: works like a charm :D Thanks a lot! | 09:58 |
| coderus | :) | 09:58 |
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| coderus | duke_leto: but having counter in header is better than in bottom, no? | 10:00 |
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| duke_leto | hmm… I have to think this over. It’s for my company’s time tracker. I thought the header could show the date I’m editing, the list are the different jobs I’m assigned to. | 10:04 |
| duke_leto | Yes, it might fit into the header | 10:05 |
| duke_leto | :-/ | 10:05 |
| duke_leto | Well, at least I learned something ;-) | 10:05 |
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| olpe | why not try Working Hours Tracker duke_leto ? ;) | 10:09 |
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| duke_leto | it integrates with our self-made controlling application | 10:09 |
| duke_leto | which exposes a REST API | 10:10 |
| duke_leto | I’m doing this more as a learning-QML-experience, not for real “customer value”. | 10:11 |
| duke_leto | Nobody in my company uses a Jolla except me :( | 10:11 |
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| olpe | duke_leto ok then. Will your source be available? Or parts of it? Because I'm planning on doing some kind of integration to my company's systems by POSTing to a server but haven't done anything like that with QT/QML before | 10:15 |
| duke_leto | olpe: did you want to stick to QML and JavaScript? Because I am… In C++, there are other projects you might learn more from ;-) | 10:17 |
| olpe | at least for now I have been sticking to QML and Javascript except for the settings part. But will try to use more C++ in the future | 10:18 |
| duke_leto | Okay. I’ll let you know when I have talked to my supervisor about open-sourcing the code or parts of it. | 10:19 |
| olpe | ok. Nice | 10:21 |
| narchie1 | how much heap is allocated for android apps? | 10:22 |
| narchie1 | or native for that matter | 10:23 |
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| Blizzz | openrepos.net seems to be down…? http://downorisitjustme.com/res.php?url=openrepos.net | 11:09 |
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| kbroulik | is there a way to use the sailfish sdk (kit, toolchain, mer stuff) in an already existing qt creator installation? | 11:15 |
| Blizzz | and back | 11:19 |
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| kbroulik | what do I need to do in order to use C++11 features on sailfish? I have CONFIG += c++11 but the compiler still shouts at things like in-class initialization, default destructors, etc | 11:37 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm does the gcc version included in sailfish sdk support c++11? | 11:50 |
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| kbroulik | I passed -std=c++0x to it and it didnt complain but I get 427 build errors :) | 11:55 |
| kbroulik | it's the 1502 sdk | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | kbroulik: it only supports c++0x for the current toolchain; an upcoming toolchain supports full | 11:55 |
| kbroulik | I dont understand | 11:56 |
| kbroulik | so it only supports a subset of c++11 atm? | 11:56 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | it's gcc4.6 | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | we're moving to gcc4.8 | 11:57 |
| kbroulik | when will that happen? we're evaluating targeting sailfish as a platform but without c++11 support not gonna happen | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | kbroulik: it's planned for one of the next updates, we've already done the work but because of the huge update size we're taking some precautions | 11:58 |
| kbroulik | sure | 11:58 |
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| merlin1991 | I was wondering if there is an api to dconf in qml? | 12:02 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 12:31 |
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| kbroulik | is there a Q_OS_SAILFISH or Q_OS_MER or so? | 12:42 |
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| timoph | no but you can always add your own config scope and add a define there | 12:47 |
| timoph | CONFIG(something) { DEFINES += SOME_DEFINE } and configure with qmake CONFIG+=something | 12:48 |
| kbroulik | meh | 12:48 |
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| tortoisedoc | Merlin: afaik there is | 12:58 |
| tortoisedoc | merlin1991: afaik there is | 12:58 |
| tortoisedoc | merlin1991: but not that I would recall what it is, unfortunately :/ | 12:58 |
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| coderus | merlin1991: just ask | 13:01 |
| coderus | it's very small and easy module | 13:01 |
| coderus | if you can read sources: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-configuration/tree/master/src | 13:01 |
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| bluszcz | what is the easiest way to log from pyotherside to sailfishos console? | 14:50 |
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| coderus | bluszcz: what?.. | 14:53 |
| coderus | print() not working? | 14:54 |
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| bluszcz | coderus: hm, no | 14:56 |
| bluszcz | it should? | 14:58 |
| coderus | bluszcz: sure | 15:00 |
| coderus | we're talking about python code, right? | 15:00 |
| uuhimhere | so is golang used at all in josfos | 15:06 |
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| carepack | <HA_REPO1="repo --name=adaptation1-$DEVICE-@RELEASE@ \ | 15:19 |
| carepack | --baseurl=$MOBS_URI/nemo:/devel:/hw:/$VENDOR:/$DEVICE/sailfish_latest_@ARCH@/" | 15:19 |
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| carepack | wow. wrong window ;) | 15:20 |
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| coderus | uuhimhere: no at all | 15:33 |
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| kbroulik | meh. no QtQuick.Controls on sailfish | 16:46 |
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| merlin1991 | thanks coderus | 19:17 |
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| merlin1991 | sadly not for use with pyotherside :/ | 19:17 |
| merlin1991 | actually I'm stupid | 19:20 |
| merlin1991 | I just had no idea how the import loading works :D | 19:20 |
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| kbroulik | where do I find documentation for Sailfish Silica? I searched for 15min and I dont find anything, and if I do, it's broken/outdated links | 20:40 |
| tbr | apparently "in the sdk" | 20:41 |
| kbroulik | meh | 20:42 |
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| phovi | Anyone available? I have a small issue trying to get the build engine work as per: | 22:08 |
| phovi | https://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/2014/03/29/running-sailfishos-build-engine-outside-virtualbox-vm/#comment-99903 | 22:08 |
| phovi | I get: | 22:09 |
| phovi | $ sudo /opt/run-sailfishos-buildengine.sh | 22:09 |
| phovi | chown: `mersdk.mersdk': invalid user | 22:09 |
| phovi | chown: `mersdk.mersdk': invalid user | 22:09 |
| phovi | chown: `mersdk.mersdk': invalid user | 22:09 |
| phovi | su: user mersdk does not exist | 22:09 |
| phovi | Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 2222. | 22:09 |
| phovi | Server listening on :: port 2222. | 22:09 |
| Acce | newest sdk? | 22:10 |
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| zoukk | Ok, using similar setup as in componengallery's search example, to the property variant countries of the list model, what modifications I need to do to be able to use data from for example fillCountries()-function (as at the moment Loader will first load the listView empty and only after that the data will be updated) | 22:59 |
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| zoukk | ufff very unclear... refrasing: Instead of a static array I would like to get data from a function, e.g. "property variant countries: fillData()" | 23:01 |
| zoukk | ---> data from empty list is loaded before the function is called | 23:01 |
| zoukk | --> thus anything on the screen is seen only after updating (so practically writing something in the search box) | 23:02 |
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