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| carepack | morning | 08:00 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 09:04 |
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| chem|st | samikshan: if your client leaves afk right after going afk where is the point in letting everyone know by having your nick change for 2 seconds? | 11:08 |
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| Nicd- | awaynicks are stupid anyway :P | 11:13 |
| Nicd- | there's /away for a reason | 11:13 |
| ikarus_ | Nicd-: well, it is more obvious, else you need to /whois someone to see that they are away or /msg them, instead of just spotting it in channel | 11:15 |
| ikarus_ | so depending on the traditions in a given IRC channel | 11:15 |
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| jaacoppi | for me, IRC is an idle based medium. The reply might happen in any time frame from 2 seconds to 2 weeks. It is more common to be away than not | 11:27 |
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| schiggn | you may use the forum instead :) | 11:29 |
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| jaacoppi | too fast paced for me | 11:35 |
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| schiggn | :) | 11:38 |
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| Tegu | irc would be much more responsive if people didn't have shells and bouncers running | 11:40 |
| Nicd- | also a lot more empty and annoying since you'd have to catch people when they are around and couldn't leave a message | 11:41 |
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| Mikaela | I have bouncer running and I believe I am responsive most of time unless I am sleeping or something | 11:41 |
| Mikaela | on awaynicks http://wiki.znc.in/awaynick | 11:41 |
| Mikaela | (yes, I am /away as I am officially reading book, but for some reason I appeared here and I also have communi-sailfish running in background, but that has limited set of channels) | 11:42 |
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| Bysmyyr | there is away for that. screen_away is very nice | 11:43 |
| Mikaela | I am using that too, sometimes it just confuses people if I appear from phone surprisingly while WeeChat is still away | 11:44 |
| Bysmyyr | i use only terminal weechat, also from phone | 11:46 |
| Mikaela | I should probably learn to like fingerterm or somehow get tohkbd | 11:49 |
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| samikshan | I'm using Konversation as a client for 2 different networks | 12:15 |
| samikshan | I like to have an away nick for the channels for the non-Freenode network | 12:15 |
| samikshan | (Due to whatever reasons) | 12:16 |
| samikshan | But using the "Global Away" option on Konversation sets my away nick across all networks.. which I dislike. | 12:16 |
| samikshan | Also, I might have misunderstood the "nick change for 2 seconds" behaviour | 12:17 |
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| samikshan | I'm sorry if the nick changes have been disturbing | 12:20 |
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| coderus | samikshan: not so disturbing for me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10609421/ | 12:33 |
| samikshan | That's a lot of noise. Yes | 12:34 |
| samikshan | Thanks coderus | 12:34 |
| samikshan | I need to check my bouncer config | 12:35 |
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| chem|st | samikshan: just recognized it because there was nothing else happening here, the "2seconds" your nick changes to afk and back within the same minute of my backlog 9 out of 10 | 15:06 |
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| samikshan | chem|st: Yes. I was not aware that this was happening. Thanks for pointing that out. | 15:07 |
| samikshan | I configured my client to prevent this from happening again. | 15:08 |
| chem|st | ;) | 15:08 |
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| lbt | PSA: sailfishos:1.1.2.16 is now on OBS and is "latest" ... all packages using 'latest' will now rebuild | 15:13 |
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| ikarus_ | Any UI experts want to comment on this: I need to have a text input box with autocompletion based on network returned data, what style should I use for that ? | 16:23 |
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| coderus | ikarus_: just use text = input + completion, text.select(input.length, completion.length) | 16:53 |
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| ikarus_ | coderus: I meant more how to display the completion options in a pleasing way | 16:57 |
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| Acce | ikarus_: (I have no idea how to do it but) you could probably make somekind of plugin or own autocompletion for the sailfish text prediction engine | 17:06 |
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| coderus | ikarus_: in a listview bottom anchored to textarea top | 17:26 |
| ikarus_ | so they appear above the actual text entry field in a floating listview ? I guess | 17:27 |
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| coderus | yes, like so | 17:35 |
| coderus | visible: textfield.focus | 17:35 |
| ikarus_ | mhm, guess that will work | 17:36 |
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| ejjoman | good evening | 18:37 |
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| bluszcz | I want to put text2 alighned to right part of screen http://pastebin.com/ZiYHNd2g but it is aligned to to text1, what i am doing wrong? | 21:07 |
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| kimmoli | bluszcz: give a width: parent.width to text2 | 21:19 |
| kimmoli | text is aligned right inside label, but label itself is just in the row | 21:20 |
| kimmoli | äh, no | 21:20 |
| kimmoli | parent.width - text1.width | 21:20 |
| kimmoli | so it will fill rest of the row, what is left after text1 | 21:21 |
| bluszcz | hm | 21:23 |
| bluszcz | parent.width - text1.width ? | 21:24 |
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| bluszcz | kimmoli: I am afraid I don't understand, I tired width: parent.width for text2 but it made hide one of textx | 21:29 |
| paulvt | hmm, does sailfish os have input masks anywhere? | 21:32 |
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| bluszcz | or how to make image1 being alligned to right? http://pastebin.com/0y4fpQUS | 21:50 |
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| kimmoli | bluszcz: your row is inside column, use width: column.width or parent.width instead of page.width | 21:59 |
| kimmoli | bluszcz: x and anchors propably not working inside row | 21:59 |
| kimmoli | set text1 width to parent.width - image1.width | 21:59 |
| kimmoli | so row is filled with text1 and image1 | 22:00 |
| kimmoli | |..text1...|image1| = width | 22:01 |
| kimmoli | which should be same as column.width ? | 22:01 |
| bluszcz | hm | 22:01 |
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| bluszcz | testing :) | 22:02 |
| kimmoli | the paste indent is so broken that it is hard to read what is child of what | 22:04 |
| bluszcz | kimmoli: :) thank you, it works! | 22:04 |
| kimmoli | good | 22:05 |
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| sakustar | qml + javascript works fine for apps? | 22:09 |
| sakustar | meh. might have to actually spend some time with the sdk | 22:12 |
| M4rtinK | sakustar: sure :) | 22:12 |
| M4rtinK | also depending on what you want to do you might not even need the SDK :) | 22:13 |
| Ikarus | sakustar: it works for me | 22:13 |
| Ikarus | I just wrote a new application which is pretty much exclusively QML + Javascript except for a tiny bit of saving preference | 22:13 |
| sakustar | i may be willing to skip the learn c++ part yet again ;) | 22:13 |
| M4rtinK | sakustar: you can also use Python for the backend instead of C++ | 22:15 |
| Ikarus | M4rtinK: well, it's a bit hodgepodge | 22:16 |
| Ikarus | which reminds me, I need to work on the gPodder UI | 22:16 |
| Ikarus | as it's a trainwreck | 22:16 |
| M4rtinK | http://pyotherside.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#cookbook | 22:16 |
| sakustar | oh so its a choice between two evils | 22:16 |
| M4rtinK | Ikarus: in what aspect ? | 22:16 |
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| Ikarus | M4rtinK: it's very unintuitive, it doesn't show certain metadata that is availible, it doesn't use covers to best effect | 22:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | sakustar: cpp is easy, learning is fun | 22:17 |
| M4rtinK | oh, you mean gPodder, not PyOtherSide | 22:17 |
| sakustar | but thanks mart, for your encouraging words | 22:17 |
| Ikarus | the fact I can start playback on page 2, but need to swipe two screens right to fwd/reverse in it is horrible | 22:17 |
| M4rtinK | well, UX is not easy :) | 22:18 |
| Ikarus | M4rtinK: oh, PyOtherSide is because you cannot directly control QML elements from it really | 22:18 |
| sakustar | r0kk3rz: yeah definitely looks better than java *shudders* | 22:18 |
| Ikarus | so you are working quite indirect | 22:18 |
| M4rtinK | Ikarus: I take that actually as a plus :) | 22:18 |
| r0kk3rz | sakustar: the more direct comparison would be java to Qt, and you're right Qt is muuuuch better | 22:18 |
| M4rtinK | you are not holding back QML by comparatively slow Python code | 22:18 |
| Ikarus | M4rtinK: no, it means sometimes I end up writing 3 languages in one application, C++ code for manipulating QML in some cases, QML + JS for the UI and Python for most of the logic | 22:19 |
| M4rtinK | sure, its is a bit different to classic PYthon bindings, but really powerful | 22:19 |
| Ikarus | M4rtinK: sure, but it doesn't quite replace C++ | 22:19 |
| Ikarus | which is a shame | 22:19 |
| sakustar | can you write logic in JS ? | 22:19 |
| sakustar | this may be the vital question :P | 22:20 |
| Ikarus | yes | 22:20 |
| M4rtinK | Ikarus: BTW, this was added in 1.4: http://pyotherside.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#accessing-qobjects-from-python | 22:20 |
| sakustar | cool | 22:20 |
| Ikarus | sakustar: I have written an application for the Dutch public transport planner API, that is just a tiny bit of C++ for preferences saving (because of personal preferences), the rest is all in Javascript embedded in QML | 22:21 |
| M4rtinK | sakustar: you can even use Javascript to generate QR codes for you on a QtQuick Canvas element: https://github.com/M4rtinK/qqr.js :) | 22:21 |
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| sakustar | may have to go through my bitbucket and see if theres anything that may still work (backend wise) | 22:21 |
| Ikarus | M4rtinK: yes, we need to do something with that for my scanner element (which is C++) | 22:21 |
| M4rtinK | +1 for an easy usable QR code scanner element :) | 22:22 |
| Ikarus | mhm, need to make it publishable, but it works :) | 22:22 |
| M4rtinK | ideally from official repos, or even just a package on OBS would do :) | 22:22 |
| Ikarus | well, it consists of two libraries so packages on OBS will be the plan | 22:23 |
| Ikarus | the first being the preview-stream-redirector (which I also needed for OpenCV stuff) | 22:23 |
| Ikarus | and the second one adds to that thing the barcode scanner which runs on the preview frames | 22:24 |
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| Ikarus | because I accidentally overengineered it | 22:25 |
| M4rtinK | as long as I can just do something like import ikarus.sun.com | 22:26 |
| M4rtinK | QRCodeScanner {} | 22:26 |
| M4rtinK | all is fine :) | 22:26 |
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| Ikarus | yup | 22:28 |
| Ikarus | should even work on Android and all that voodoo | 22:28 |
| M4rtinK | I have a modRana port for Android, so that would be nice :) | 22:29 |
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| sakustar | r0kk3rz: your abbreviations are still only letters to me. | 22:34 |
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| sakustar | been doing android, cordova & windows phone stuff until now. | 22:38 |
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