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| Kazaii | hello, everyone | 03:11 |
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| trt` | hey Kazaii | 04:39 |
| Kazaii | trt`: hello, sir. | 04:39 |
| Kazaii | I've trabled to this humble abode to discuss this OS | 04:43 |
| Kazaii | plz, give us a Jolla phone 2 | 04:43 |
| trt` | :) | 04:43 |
| trt` | oh good | 04:43 |
| trt` | and you are located in the US? | 04:43 |
| trt` | do you have a Jolla phone? | 04:45 |
| Kazaii | Canada and nope | 04:45 |
| trt` | ok | 04:46 |
| Kazaii | i'd like the jolla phone | 04:46 |
| Kazaii | Unsure what bands it supports | 04:46 |
| Kazaii | I have a Nexus 5 | 04:46 |
| trt` | I don't have a Jolla phone either. I still think it's not productive enough for me | 04:47 |
| trt` | oh nice. Nexus is good. Stock Android, fast | 04:47 |
| Kazaii | Nexus 5 was good | 04:48 |
| Kazaii | until 5.0 came in and destroyed everything | 04:48 |
| Kazaii | memory management is borked. My battery drains so fast now | 04:48 |
| Kazaii | various other issues. It's a real pain point | 04:48 |
| Kazaii | 5.1 better fix it. | 04:48 |
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| trt` | I would've thought it got better. Especially battery | 04:49 |
| trt` | I have a Galaxy S5. No Lollipop yet | 04:50 |
| Kazaii | well, it didn't | 04:50 |
| Kazaii | visually, yes. It looks great. | 04:50 |
| Kazaii | I also saw the demos of ubuntu phone tonight. Looks good | 04:51 |
| Kazaii | I love that telegram is their 'default' messaging system. | 04:51 |
| Kazaii | But I think sailfishOS 2.0 is more appealing | 04:52 |
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| trt` | I saw the ubuntu phone too.. | 04:53 |
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| trt` | It had some good features I can't think of right now and I would like it if Jolla steal/adopt those :) | 04:54 |
| Kazaii | Well, I've been reading on r/linux a lot about how they might work together | 04:55 |
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| Kazaii | Then let the end-user decide based on hardware/design/whatever else | 04:55 |
| trt` | Yes. That is great | 04:56 |
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| trt` | I am really looking to seeing cooperation rather then competition between firefox OS, sailfish, ubuntu and tizen | 04:57 |
| Kazaii | yep | 04:58 |
| trt` | or at least some cooperation beside the competition ;) | 04:58 |
| Kazaii | I also welcome Tizen into the market | 04:58 |
| Kazaii | i just want good hardware, for a good price with smooth and reliable software | 04:58 |
| Kazaii | and they're both aimingfor that | 04:59 |
| Kazaii | they're both also trying to break the tired ui's, at least a little bit | 04:59 |
| trt` | oh yes. I am really impressed how you can open all those apps on Sailfish OS and have them run at the same time | 05:00 |
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| Kazaii | I want the tablet. It looks like a great product | 05:00 |
| Kazaii | then again, I just bought a thinkpad yoga | 05:00 |
| Kazaii | it's a great tablet/laptop convertible. works great with archlinux | 05:01 |
| trt` | It is really hard tho.. With iOS and Android having their ecosystems | 05:01 |
| Kazaii | well, at least both of them plan to sideload and run android apps | 05:01 |
| Kazaii | i find my usage of android's ecosystem dwindling | 05:02 |
| Kazaii | as my laptop gets more and more portable, etc. | 05:02 |
| Kazaii | so i'd rather have a good spec'ed phone, with a great price and reliable secure software | 05:02 |
| trt` | I don't see a point in tablets (it is just me). I mean - too small to work and all.. too big to carry everywhere | 05:02 |
| Kazaii | my thinkpad yoga is a tablet for netflix, I'd say | 05:03 |
| Kazaii | has a good presentation mode as well | 05:03 |
| Kazaii | that's the best a tablet gets, imo | 05:03 |
| trt` | I see. | 05:03 |
| Kazaii | it's a good weight and size. Assuming you like ultraportable laptops | 05:03 |
| trt` | We have a Surface.. the old first Surface | 05:04 |
| Kazaii | i dunno why I want jolla tablet... I just want my hands on the software | 05:04 |
| Kazaii | ah. | 05:04 |
| trt` | Me and my wife use it when we go on vacations | 05:04 |
| Kazaii | Surface pro 3 is a nice device. and the kernel supports the keyboard now... but linux support still isn't there | 05:04 |
| Kazaii | plus no repair value in the device | 05:04 |
| Kazaii | i just couldn't justify the purchaase | 05:04 |
| trt` | I know, right.. I would buy an all-in-one computer for that price | 05:05 |
| Kazaii | i really adore this thinkpad yoga. I'm still in the honeymoon phase... but it really hits al the right notes | 05:05 |
| Kazaii | it's like it was built with Linux in mind. | 05:05 |
| trt` | :) | 05:06 |
| trt` | what kind of Linux distro do you run on it? | 05:06 |
| Kazaii | Arch | 05:06 |
| Kazaii | arch with cinnamon as my desktop environment | 05:06 |
| Kazaii | works great. | 05:07 |
| trt` | good | 05:07 |
| trt` | I have Ubuntu | 05:07 |
| Kazaii | yes, I used linux mint on my last laptop | 05:07 |
| Kazaii | and on my desktop | 05:07 |
| trt` | I deceded to break with Windows on my HP laptop that I bought 3 years ago | 05:07 |
| Kazaii | but i've come back to Arch | 05:07 |
| Kazaii | i'd recommend manjaro to you. | 05:07 |
| trt` | oh wow. I haven't used anything other than Ubuntu | 05:08 |
| Kazaii | it's the bleeding edge and endless limits of arch.... but with the simplicity install and maintenance of ubuntu | 05:08 |
| trt` | :) | 05:09 |
| trt` | well advertised | 05:09 |
| trt` | I will think about it | 05:09 |
| Kazaii | you can play around with it on a usb stick. I'd recommend it | 05:09 |
| Kazaii | but there is nothing wrong with your ubuntu | 05:09 |
| trt` | I see | 05:09 |
| trt` | Don't you think there is a lot of stuff you can;t do on Linux that you can do on Windows | 05:11 |
| Kazaii | nope | 05:12 |
| Kazaii | not at all | 05:12 |
| Kazaii | I get pretty excited searching for alternatives on linux | 05:12 |
| Kazaii | you'll eventually find that you don't want to go back to windows... | 05:12 |
| Kazaii | because it's their apps that are inferior... | 05:12 |
| trt` | Oh I definitely don't want to go back on windows on this computer, but | 05:13 |
| trt` | let | 05:13 |
| Kazaii | just last night I was playing a 5.3GB mkv... and VLC was chugging... I kind of moaned and wished I had MPC-HC, that i used on windows. | 05:13 |
| Kazaii | so i scoured the web and r/linux | 05:13 |
| Kazaii | found MPV | 05:13 |
| Kazaii | wow, this player is great | 05:13 |
| Kazaii | no frills, just pure performance (runs on windows too) | 05:14 |
| trt` | let's say, I couldn't complete a job application, because there was a test needed to be filled out online and the software for that test ws not supported on Linux | 05:14 |
| lachs0r | Kazaii: I make the windows builds | 05:15 |
| trt` | :) | 05:15 |
| Kazaii | lachs0r: congrats on contributing to great software. | 05:15 |
| Kazaii | trt`: I get it, but that's obscure and one off. You could, in that scenario, virtualize windows | 05:15 |
| Kazaii | I won't lie... there ARE many occassions when you need windows. I just don't come across them anymore or all that often | 05:16 |
| trt` | I have wine. I got it so I could open one Windows program... | 05:16 |
| Kazaii | one thing I can think of is the vsphere client. that drives me insane | 05:16 |
| Kazaii | yeah, but wine doesn't alwaayyyyssss work | 05:17 |
| trt` | then I opened it... but since that's a translator and it didn't support some font I can still only use it half way | 05:17 |
| Kazaii | I would just say that linux is good enough for 97% of computer users | 05:17 |
| lachs0r | I’ve tried to build mpv for sailfish but sfos wayland is far too ancient | 05:18 |
| lachs0r | :( | 05:18 |
| Kazaii | sometimes you'll find that the configuration of linux could b e the limitation | 05:18 |
| trt` | (i tried to install the windows font software for Linux too, but it didn't work) | 05:18 |
| Kazaii | aw :< | 05:18 |
| Kazaii | i have to go sleep | 05:18 |
| Kazaii | late here | 05:18 |
| Kazaii | night guys | 05:18 |
| Kazaii | i'll be coming back here for sure. | 05:18 |
| trt` | Night Kazaii | 05:18 |
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| trt` | lachs0r, so what do you do? Kinda port windows stuff to.. linux/sailfish os | 05:19 |
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| lachs0r | trt`: mpv is cross-platform | 05:26 |
| lachs0r | it has wayland support and all that, but sailfish’s version of the wayland libs is too old (lacks a few APIs, e.g. subcompositor stuff iirc) | 05:26 |
| lachs0r | it needs 1.6.x iirc | 05:27 |
| trt` | aha | 05:28 |
| lachs0r | no openmax support yet because openmax is terrible and we don’t have any openmax devices running mpv with usable video output to begin with | 05:30 |
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| trt` | have you developed any other apps for Sailfish? | 05:31 |
| lachs0r | I’ve only poked things before. | 05:31 |
| lachs0r | qml is nice. | 05:31 |
| lachs0r | but I haven’t finished any apps | 05:32 |
| trt` | I see | 05:32 |
| trt` | qml is javascript based? is it just that what you are good at? | 05:33 |
| trt` | I mean do you code in any other language? | 05:33 |
| lachs0r | qml is javascript-ish, yes. but I’ve used many languages | 05:35 |
| chriadam | QML is not JavaScript based. QML is a declarative language, JavaScript is imperative. QML does allow imperative expressions (binding expressions, and functions) to be defined inline, but the language itself is fundamentally entirely different. | 05:35 |
| lachs0r | well, yes | 05:35 |
| trt` | see, I speak from the name of someone pretty ignorant in the field of programming. My knowledge comprises of a half of a book I read - "Java for dummies" | 05:37 |
| trt` | :) | 05:37 |
| lachs0r | qt (c++, qml) aside, I usually write stuff in either python or c | 05:37 |
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| trt` | yep | 05:37 |
| trt` | can you tell for a certain programming language that is pretty easy? | 05:38 |
| trt` | python isn't object oriented like java, or is it? | 05:38 |
| lachs0r | you can use OOP in python just fine | 05:39 |
| chriadam | python is object oriented, but it is ducktyped | 05:39 |
| chriadam | whereas Java is statically typed | 05:39 |
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| lachs0r | anyway, I’d say C is easy. but the problem really isn’t the language, it’s how you use it to solve problems | 05:40 |
| lachs0r | unless your language is something php, that is indeed a problem | 05:40 |
| chriadam | yeah, like everything: different tools are better suited for different tasks. | 05:40 |
| trt` | :) | 05:41 |
| trt` | so, lachs0r let's say.. how do you feel.. What do you think it's the language you'd be able to write the best software in? | 05:43 |
| lachs0r | I can’t really answer that question | 05:44 |
| trt` | :) | 05:45 |
| lachs0r | it depends on the problem I’m trying to solve | 05:45 |
| trt` | I see | 05:45 |
| trt` | what kind of IDEs u use? | 05:46 |
| lachs0r | rule of thumb I go by is: cross-platform GUI stuff with qt, quick n dirty hacks and web stuff with python, most other things with C | 05:47 |
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| lachs0r | I usually avoid IDEs; I’m happy with a decent editor (usually kwrite) | 05:47 |
| HBP_ | I have solved that problem by simply not touching GUI stuff :P | 05:48 |
| lachs0r | if it had to be an IDE, I guess I’d use either kdevelop or qtcreator | 05:48 |
| trt` | ok | 05:48 |
| lachs0r | I used to make a living with .net stuff in msvs, but I really didn’t enjoy that too much | 05:49 |
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| lachs0r | although c# is probably what I would use instead of python if I were a windows dev | 05:49 |
| trt` | aha | 05:49 |
| lachs0r | mostly due to integration issues | 05:50 |
| trt` | python was meant for linux? | 05:50 |
| lachs0r | windows just isn’t posix-ish enough. I’d really appreciate a proper term for python | 05:50 |
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| lachs0r | (I guess midipix is going to improve that situation sooner or later) | 05:52 |
| trt` | alright, I am really glad you take your time to tell me all that.. It is a little too much for me, but I do appreciate it. | 05:53 |
| trt` | Now I have a bunch pages of words I looked up on google, like posix, midipix and qml :) | 05:53 |
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| trt` | Anyway, I'll say it again, I'm really glad to hear all that. I'm kinda getting to know the gist of programming better | 05:55 |
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| trt` | So, let's see if I got it right.. If you write code for Windows with python, you can't use IPAs that you used for Linux, right lachs0r ? | 05:57 |
| lachs0r | it’s just less convenient | 05:58 |
| trt` | apis (im thinking of beer) ;) | 05:58 |
| trt` | I see | 05:58 |
| lachs0r | what I meant with the posix statement is that windows has its main focus on GUI applications and does not provide a proper terminal and some system APIs that are part of the POSIX standards | 05:59 |
| trt` | Ok, thanks very much lachs0r . Im gonna sleep on it now, and will have a better general understanding for programming tomorrow | 05:59 |
| trt` | oh, yeah, it makes sense | 06:01 |
| trt` | Ok, have a good night or day wherever you at.. | 06:02 |
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| Skorpy | coderus, SfietKontantinW: Does patchmanager handle updated patches without problems? For example: I have a a patch enabled -> I update the patch from openrepos -> I re-apply the patch. | 07:05 |
| coderus | Skorpy: should yes | 07:13 |
| coderus | it unapply copy of patch | 07:13 |
| Skorpy | coderus: ok, thanks | 07:14 |
| coderus | means after applying patch is copied to internal storage | 07:14 |
| coderus | and even if you altered patch file in /usr/share/patchmanager it still unapply old one, which was actually applied | 07:14 |
| Skorpy | nice | 07:14 |
| coderus | so you just do unapply - apply and new patch will be applied | 07:15 |
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| Skorpy | yay, package updated! | 07:24 |
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| daitheflu | hi | 08:13 |
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| Acce | coderus: hey, about yesterday's translation stuff: you told me that the engine loads the translation and not the plugin. But still, I can't find the code in the engine which loads the translation, shouldn't it be in transfer-engine repo? | 08:35 |
| Acce | or is something that QtPlugin has built in? | 08:35 |
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| coderus | Acce: https://github.com/nemomobile/transfer-engine/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L44 | 08:47 |
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| Acce | coderus: yes, but does this part also load the plugin translations? I looks to me as if it only loads the engine strings like at https://github.com/nemomobile/transfer-engine/blob/master/src/transferengine.cpp#L316 | 09:40 |
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| leszek | hi | 10:46 |
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| ShawnMcCool | how can i benchmark my application's battery usage? android automatically tracks per-app, for example | 11:51 |
| ShawnMcCool | battery usage is extremely important to me personally | 11:52 |
| Yaniel | powertop | 11:52 |
| ShawnMcCool | oh right, linux | 11:52 |
| ShawnMcCool | thanks, i need to adapt | 11:52 |
| ShawnMcCool | i freaken love this environment | 11:52 |
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| m4g0g | coderus: ping | 12:13 |
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| tortoisedoc | duh | 12:42 |
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| coderus | m4g0g: pong? | 12:51 |
| m4g0g | may I write private message to you because my english is awful? | 12:52 |
| muppis | m4g0g, I think most of us doesn't have english as native language. | 12:53 |
| m4g0g | okay | 12:53 |
| m4g0g | coderus: some days ago you published code about attached page with verification | 12:54 |
| coderus | Acce: hm | 12:55 |
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| coderus | m4g0g: sure :D | 12:55 |
| m4g0g | In what situations does it work? Because typical situation with one attach page for all pages is not covered by this code | 12:55 |
| coderus | m4g0g: when you swipe back from attached page | 12:56 |
| coderus | without this check your attached page will be reattached and you can even spot small glitch :) | 12:56 |
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| m4g0g | hm. About swipe back I didn't think. Thx. I stole this idea to my project =) | 12:58 |
| coderus | m4g0g: sure | 12:58 |
| coderus | m4g0g: engineering english :D | 12:58 |
| coderus | muppis: ^^ | 12:58 |
| m4g0g | yep | 12:59 |
| coderus | i really need mind interface for this autocompletion thing! | 12:59 |
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| Juuba | chem|st: ping? | 13:06 |
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| chem|st | püong | 13:08 |
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| Juuba | i'm looking at my SD card in a PC linux now | 13:09 |
| Juuba | how can I access the android sub volume? | 13:09 |
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| chem|st | Juuba: mount -o subvolume=android? | 13:10 |
| Juuba | on the PC? | 13:11 |
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| Juuba | it complains: cant finr it in fstab | 13:11 |
| Juuba | find * | 13:11 |
| chem|st | you need to mount it to a mountpoint as root then | 13:11 |
| chem|st | if your user is not allowed to mount "anywhere" | 13:11 |
| Juuba | i can se the subvol list . -> 258 is android and 256 is jolla | 13:11 |
| Juuba | can i copy the command from the .service in TJC ? | 13:12 |
| chem|st | yes, but honour your location you mount to... | 13:12 |
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| Juuba | yeah | 13:13 |
| Juuba | also, it can't find mmcblk1 of course... wonder what it is called here... | 13:13 |
| Juuba | seems to be /dev/sdb | 13:13 |
| chem|st | see in dmesg what the card is enumerated to | 13:13 |
| Juuba | /dev/sdb on /media/pakke/69e965d1-41fd-449e-831a-669c365e533f type btrfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2) | 13:13 |
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| Juuba | could that be it ? | 13:14 |
| chem|st | that looks like a generic UUID mount of an sdcard yes | 13:14 |
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| chem|st | and like ubuntu... | 13:15 |
| Juuba | hahaa! | 13:15 |
| Juuba | got it | 13:15 |
| Juuba | let's see if I can tarball that to safety | 13:15 |
| chem|st | well my debian does not mount by UUID... how stupid is that, it mounts by name | 13:15 |
| Juuba | this card seems to work fine in the PC :( | 13:16 |
| Juuba | has not gone RW yet | 13:16 |
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| Juuba | 344 megabytes there about | 13:16 |
| Juuba | tar-zipped | 13:17 |
| chem|st | you do not need to erase anything to check the block integrity, but well better save then sorry | 13:17 |
| Juuba | how do I ? | 13:17 |
| chem|st | block checking is usually done on an unmounted device btw | 13:17 |
| Juuba | right | 13:18 |
| Juuba | I just wanted to backup this | 13:18 |
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| Juuba | so, how to do the check ? or should I googel it | 13:19 |
| Juuba | hmm | 13:20 |
| Juuba | i did that in the Jolla already | 13:20 |
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| Juuba | didn't help .. this : "btrfs check --repair" | 13:20 |
| chem|st | Juuba: did you backup? | 13:20 |
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| Juuba | now I cant umount the card | 13:20 |
| Juuba | yea, I got the stuff tarballed | 13:21 |
| Juuba | okay, it's umounted now | 13:21 |
| chem|st | unmount both volumes | 13:21 |
| chem|st | ok | 13:21 |
| Juuba | this is btrfs v3.12... is it bad? | 13:22 |
| chem|st | fsck /dev/sdb (if that is the one) | 13:22 |
| chem|st | uh you should use a newer system... | 13:22 |
| Juuba | i just apt-got that | 13:22 |
| Juuba | :/ | 13:22 |
| chem|st | if you are doing btrfs commands | 13:22 |
| Juuba | yeah | 13:22 |
| chem|st | 3.18 | 13:23 |
| chem|st | current | 13:23 |
| Juuba | i wonder where I could get that one | 13:23 |
| Juuba | googelgoogel | 13:23 |
| chem|st | update the system, 3.12 is a year old or even more | 13:24 |
| Juuba | this linux is .. about a month old install | 13:24 |
| Juuba | :( | 13:24 |
| chem|st | LTS? | 13:24 |
| Yaniel | debian? | 13:25 |
| chem|st | ubuntu | 13:25 |
| Juuba | mint linux | 13:25 |
| chem|st | mint... | 13:25 |
| Juuba | or linux mint | 13:25 |
| Juuba | :D | 13:25 |
| Yaniel | so ~debian | 13:25 |
| chem|st | hmm | 13:25 |
| chem|st | debian is still on 3.17 iirc or 3.14... | 13:26 |
| chem|st | well if something goes wrong you can always recover it with your jolla | 13:27 |
| chem|st | Juuba: if fsck complains tell it that it is btrfs | 13:27 |
| Juuba | it did | 13:28 |
| Juuba | tells to run btrfs check | 13:28 |
| chem|st | then run badblocks -n -v /dev/sdb | 13:28 |
| Juuba | badblocks: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole while trying to determine device size | 13:29 |
| Juuba | sorry finnish, it says "directory or file doesn't exist" while... | 13:29 |
| Juuba | file or directory does not exist.. | 13:29 |
| chem|st | hmm... ask someone who knows more about that than me... | 13:30 |
| chem|st | ehrm did you try that as user? | 13:30 |
| Juuba | nope, root | 13:30 |
| chem|st | hmm did the card fail? | 13:30 |
| Juuba | i can run btrfs check --repair still | 13:30 |
| Juuba | BLEH! :D | 13:31 |
| Juuba | last char was missing from my copypaste | 13:31 |
| Juuba | .../dev/sd_ | 13:31 |
| Juuba | ofc it comlained | 13:31 |
| Juuba | now it is running | 13:31 |
| chem|st | lol | 13:32 |
| Juuba | cheers! lets see in a while | 13:32 |
| Yaniel | hmm I should run badblocks on my other uSD just for the lulz | 13:32 |
| Juuba | its now at about 100K | 13:32 |
| Juuba | if the card is 8GB | 13:32 |
| Juuba | how long will it run | 13:32 |
| chem|st | Juuba: that will take a while | 13:32 |
| Juuba | ie. to what number | 13:32 |
| Juuba | 8 billion? | 13:32 |
| Juuba | 8 mill? | 13:33 |
| Juuba | ohwell | 13:33 |
| Juuba | it's churning away now--- time to do some work on the windows machine -> | 13:33 |
| Juuba | brb, thanks!! | 13:33 |
| chem|st | Juuba: 32GB/4k | 13:33 |
| Juuba | so 8GB/4k, err | 13:34 |
| Juuba | 2097152 | 13:35 |
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| Juuba | past 1,8 million now, still running | 13:51 |
| Juuba | does it stop at error or continues? | 13:51 |
| muppis | coderus :D | 13:56 |
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| chem|st | Juuba: then it is probably 512 and not 4k | 14:03 |
| chem|st | it continues till the end | 14:04 |
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| Juuba | yeah, it is somewhere around 4 million now | 14:07 |
| Juuba | ohwell, that machine is not doing anything else atm | 14:07 |
| chem|st | just read that most cards use 128 despite tha fact that 512 should be used | 14:08 |
| chem|st | Juuba: I'd guess 64M | 14:10 |
| chem|st | hmm it is KB not Kb | 14:11 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 14:16 |
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| dv__ | hi | 14:49 |
| dv__ | got a jolla. amazing phone! | 14:50 |
| dv__ | I logged into it over ssh, and noticed that it is using gstreamer 0.10. any plans on updating to 1.0? | 14:50 |
| dv__ | and, am I right to assume that the hardware accelerated video decoding and output is done over OpenMAX? | 14:50 |
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| flux | to me it would sound like a big upgrade. possibly when going from 1.x to 2.x and more things are permitted to break ;) | 14:54 |
| dv__ | hm | 14:54 |
| dv__ | I guess you picked 0.10 also because of qtmultimedia | 14:55 |
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| dv__ | and if all goes well, it seems that 1.0 will be in qt 5.5 | 14:55 |
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| Juuba | hmm | 15:18 |
| Juuba | chem|st: ? | 15:18 |
| Juuba | badblocks said: | 15:18 |
| Juuba | Pass completed, 7761920 bad blocks found. (0/0/7761920 errors) | 15:18 |
| Juuba | wtf does that mean :) | 15:19 |
| Juuba | 100% bad? | 15:19 |
| Juuba | last block was number 7761919 | 15:19 |
| Juuba | starting from 0 | 15:19 |
| Juuba | this seemed to have 1024 blocks | 15:19 |
| Juuba | that equals to 8 GB | 15:19 |
| Juuba | i guess | 15:19 |
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| arvut | why cant the jolla browser play MIME/Youtube? | 15:23 |
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| Yaniel | is that a valid mime type these days O.o | 15:27 |
| chem|st | Juuba: usually that means that the controller is gone, each read or write or both did not match | 15:30 |
| chem|st | or something else went wrong while checking | 15:31 |
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| arvut | Yaniel: well no, but im not getting more info than "Video format or MIME type not supported" when trying to play a yt video in the built-in browser | 16:05 |
| arvut | hmm, now it works.. wonder what got in the way... | 16:06 |
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| chem|st | Juuba: thought about writing it with a smaller blocksize? | 16:27 |
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| Juuba | i have no idea, i'll "shelf" this card for now... | 16:34 |
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| kimmoli | ^^ | 17:40 |
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| SfietKontantinW | ... | 18:01 |
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| coderus | 18:22 | |
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| chem|st | -.- | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | wat | 18:45 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: seems like we have another portrait only device... | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 18:48 |
| chem|st | I hope that lastucase considers it with the case... | 18:48 |
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| Stskeeps | no clue what you're talking about | 18:48 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: I just started to think about the conenctors on the tablet | 18:49 |
| chem|st | and the camera placement | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. in practice it's not that bad | 18:49 |
| chem|st | we will see | 18:50 |
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| chem|st | is the back magnetic? | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | anodized alumnium? | 18:50 |
| chem|st | ok then not... | 18:51 |
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| uuhimhere | make it outta stamped steel | 18:52 |
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| stephg | good evening guys | 19:25 |
| Kazaii | Good afternoon. | 19:27 |
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