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| louisdk | satmd, still awake? | 01:49 |
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| coderus | maybe you'll try to reinstall openssh? | 02:02 |
| coderus | pkcon install openssh | 02:02 |
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| louisdk | coderus, everything works :) Altrough I could do "su nemo" but not login over ssh, sudo passwd nemo helped. | 02:10 |
| coderus | louisdk: why you talking about su nemo always? | 02:13 |
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| coderus | su is change user command, it does nothing with ssh :D | 02:14 |
| louisdk | coderus, i was trying to ssh to my Jolla like nemo@jolla-hostname and nemo@localhost (in fingerterm), but got access denied, which I found strange, and since "su nemo" worked which I find inconsitent. however doing "passwd nemo" as root, i can now login over ssh. I supspects SailfishOS is doing some tricks to prevent unauth. ssh access when disabling devmode. | 02:17 |
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| louisdk | long story short, i now have ssh working when devmode is disabled. | 02:18 |
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| coderus | louisdk: sure, when disabling devmode your nemo password is unsed | 02:29 |
| coderus | you didn't knew that? :D | 02:29 |
| coderus | and and since "su nemo" worked which I find inconsitent | 02:29 |
| coderus | i mean your statement is totally wrong | 02:29 |
| coderus | su have no any relationships with ssh | 02:30 |
| louisdk | coderus, the password for using "su nemo" and logging into nemo over ssh is the same right? As since I can still "su nemo" after disabling devmode the password isn't changed/unset? | 02:34 |
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| louisdk | Using "classic" linux I'll only get premission denied if I type wrong passwd, ssh key is requied etc. | 02:38 |
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| coderus | louisdk: and su nemo was asking you for the password? | 02:40 |
| coderus | after disabling ssh/developermode it shouldn't | 02:41 |
| louisdk | coderus, yes and password was accepted while getting premission denied over ssh. | 02:41 |
| louisdk | I've installed openssh and fingerterm manually via pkcon install and it's still installed while devmode is disabled. | 02:42 |
| coderus | you expect system to give you a punch for installing it manually? | 02:44 |
| louisdk | coderus, i have to learn that Sailfish/Mer is not like a regular Linux dist and some things operate as they do without documentation :) | 02:46 |
| louisdk | coderus, anyway i've installed openssh, sudo and fingerterm manually and it works for now. I kinda old school and wants to enable services myself. Maybe in the future devmode might have extra unneeded features which won't be good to have enabled all the time. | 02:51 |
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| coderus | louisdk: what are you talkning about? | 02:52 |
| coderus | why basically you had to disable devmode and installed everything manually? | 02:52 |
| louisdk | coderus, because I don't know if devmode have other features than ssh and fingerterm og will get in the future. Having unneeded debugging tools enabled could be a security risk. | 02:55 |
| coderus | omg, paranoia detected | 02:55 |
| * coderus goes away from this place | 02:55 | |
| * louisdk laughs like crazy. | 02:57 | |
| coderus | i don't like paranoic peoples sorry, and don't want to continue this conversation with you :) | 02:58 |
| louisdk | Well my ssh connection works well, so there's not much more to talk about. Don't see any wrong in manually configuring my mobile Linux computer just as I do with my Debian and Arch installations, but good night it's getting late here. | 03:06 |
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| coderus | Android notifications updated to v0.5.0 with moooore settings :) https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/android-notifications | 04:32 |
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| stephg | morning, also, ohgodanotherembargoedXenbugrebootallthethings | 08:24 |
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| Stskeeps | morn stephg | 08:25 |
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| stephg | are you in Barca yet Stskeeps :P | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | no, tomorrow | 08:31 |
| stephg | excited? nervous? | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | looking forward it to being over again | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | it's a stressful experience :) | 08:32 |
| stephg | well I imagine you've got a fair amount of stuff to do behind the scenes | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | ah, not extremely; i get to explore and be on booth duty | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | this year | 08:33 |
| stephg | free from meetings then? cool | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | not entirely, no | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | loading up heaps of awesome on my demo devices atm | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:34 |
| stephg | hehe | 08:34 |
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| stephg | very much looking forward to vids from folks hands on with the work in progress | 08:36 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 11:40 |
| m4g0g | I have column with 2 buttons. Column has fixes size. I want to fill whole column size by one button if other is invisible and half size if both visible. Is it possible? | 11:41 |
| m4g0g | should I change button size manually or it can be done automatically? | 11:42 |
| r0kk3rz | use expressions in your properties | 11:45 |
| r0kk3rz | eg. size: isInvisible ? sizeBig : sizeSmall; | 11:46 |
| m4g0g | thx | 11:46 |
| r0kk3rz | you can use relative things like parent.size to get the size of the column | 11:47 |
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| mal- | Hi, which network should I have in SailfishOS emulator virtualbox to be able to connect from my app to a port on my host? | 13:13 |
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| r0kk3rz | mal use the port forwarding rules | 13:14 |
| r0kk3rz | using NAT | 13:15 |
| r0kk3rz | although you mean guest to host | 13:16 |
| r0kk3rz | hmmm | 13:16 |
| mal- | yes, I have a server on local network and I get xml data from that | 13:17 |
| r0kk3rz | oh external server? it should just work | 13:17 |
| mal- | well, it's running on host, but should be available from any computer on local network | 13:18 |
| mal- | XmlListModel doesn't get any data | 13:19 |
| mal- | maybe I'm doing something wrong | 13:21 |
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| coderus | mal-: you need bridged network | 13:30 |
| mal- | coderus: but if I enable bridged mode I can't connect to emularor from SDK | 13:34 |
| locusf | is there a way to start bluetooth from the command line by enabling it via connman? | 13:37 |
| mal- | at least I managed to enable bluetooth from command line when I was testing my port | 13:38 |
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| oh8gnz | '/win 512 | 13:44 |
| Tegu | now that's a load of channels/windows | 13:46 |
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| Mikaela | and I am said that I have load of channels | 13:52 |
| Mikaela | 1 windows used (0 vertically / 0 horizontally split). 134 (of which 8 merged) buffers open: 1 core, 1 perl, 119 irc channels, 4 irc queries, 9 irc servers | 13:52 |
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| * satmd falls over | 13:58 | |
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| coderus | just 7 channels for me :D | 14:08 |
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| coderus | mal-: hm, but basically 127.0.0.1:port should be available from emulator | 14:09 |
| mal- | I read somewere that 10.0.2.2 could be host localhost | 14:10 |
| mal- | but did not work, so I'm now using a remote server to see it will work | 14:10 |
| mal- | not working with that either, so maybe there is something else wrong | 14:12 |
| coderus | mal-: ah yeah, run ifconfig on host and emulator | 14:12 |
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| coderus | and see virtual ip address | 14:12 |
| coderus | means host ip address in virtual network of vbox | 14:12 |
| mal- | how can I run that on emulator? | 14:12 |
| mal- | on host vboxnet0 has no ip | 14:13 |
| coderus | install terminal | 14:13 |
| coderus | that bad | 14:13 |
| mal- | I'm using nat now | 14:14 |
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| coderus | so, you can't open 127.0.0.1:8080 for example? It should load sdk management page. | 14:15 |
| mal- | yes, that works | 14:16 |
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| mal- | now I need to figure out how to install terminal to emulator | 14:17 |
| vakkov | guys, is there still a way to disable the developer framerate using dconf? | 14:20 |
| vakkov | if yes, what values should be written | 14:21 |
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| coderus | mal-: build it from sources. github/nemomobile/fingerterm | 14:25 |
| mal- | ok | 14:25 |
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| coderus | vakkov: /desktop/jolla/silica_framerate | 14:26 |
| coderus | unset it | 14:26 |
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| vakkov | coderus: i was trying to write 'disabled' to it :D :D :D | 14:31 |
| vakkov | if someone is looking for it after time - the command is dconf reset /desktop/jolla/silica_framerate | 14:31 |
| vakkov | thanks coderus :) | 14:31 |
| vakkov | p.s. run as user nemo | 14:31 |
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| mal- | coderus: it seems network was working correctly, just another error caused the problem | 14:47 |
| mal- | damn namespaces | 14:47 |
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| coderus | mal-: cool :) | 15:55 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: ping | 16:36 |
| louisdk | satmd, got it working | 16:36 |
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| coderus | Powersave menu entry for Jolla Settings. Can be added to favorites. https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/jolla-powersave-settings | 17:05 |
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| Olpe | coderus: does it show somehow when powersaving is active? | 19:58 |
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| coderus | Olpe: sure | 20:04 |
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| coderus | Olpe: just press force powersave and you will see yourself | 20:05 |
| Olpe | hmm. what should i see then? I think i see nothing | 20:05 |
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| Olpe | oh sorry my bad. I had it in charging now when i tried.Works fine coderus | 20:07 |
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| gogeta | hi coderus | 20:38 |
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| coderus | Olpe: :D | 21:18 |
| coderus | gogeta: hello? | 21:18 |
| Olpe | #facepalm coderus | 21:22 |
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| dr_Gogeta86 | sorry i was a bit out | 22:06 |
| dr_Gogeta86 | did you know AcDisplay for android ? | 22:06 |
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| GTRsdk | What can you do on Sailfish OS that you can't do on Android? | 22:48 |
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| coderus | GTRsdk: modify system :) | 23:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | run systemd | 23:08 |
| coderus | :D | 23:08 |
| GTRsdk | Why would you want to run systemd on a phone or tablet? lol | 23:09 |
| coderus | :D | 23:10 |
| r0kk3rz | im not sure | 23:11 |
| r0kk3rz | but its something you can do on sailfish | 23:11 |
| r0kk3rz | that is probably not possible on android | 23:11 |
| GTRsdk | Why should someone buy a Sailfish OS phone instead of something like the OnePlus One? | 23:13 |
| coderus | GTRsdk: because i hate java for example :) | 23:14 |
| coderus | but i can buy OnePlus One just for good phone hardware and daily usage, but not for developing | 23:15 |
| coderus | but i have not enough free money to do that :) | 23:15 |
| FireFly | Well, you have a regular package manager and regular terminal emulator and ... | 23:15 |
| FireFly | In general a more typical linux computer than an Android device | 23:16 |
| FireFly | Whether that is valuable or not depends, but I value being able to scp stuff to/from my phone, e.g. | 23:16 |
| GTRsdk | I can scp on my Android phone | 23:16 |
| FireFly | Oh, okay | 23:17 |
| GTRsdk | but there really isn't any benefits to a consumer to go with a Sailfish OS phone vs like the OnePlus One? | 23:17 |
| FireFly | I dunno | 23:18 |
| FireFly | Well. | 23:18 |
| r0kk3rz | it depends on what you're looking for | 23:18 |
| FireFly | The interface is a lot different | 23:18 |
| r0kk3rz | if android suits your purposes, then it is the more polished operating system | 23:18 |
| FireFly | Another thing I value is having a clear distinction between applications that are running and not running | 23:18 |
| coderus | GTRsdk: you better go to #jollamobile for future discussion | 23:18 |
| coderus | #sailfishos for development | 23:18 |
| FireFly | Also yes | 23:18 |
| coderus | and basically nobody will tell you buy jolla phone or not to buy | 23:22 |
| coderus | its just foss based linux phone with individual ux | 23:24 |
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| coderus | if you like something in this list you might think about buying it | 23:24 |
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| Almindor | hello | 23:27 |
| Almindor | how can I override language choice for a localized app? I mean from programatically from within the app, not via LANG or LC_ALL environment variables | 23:28 |
| Almindor | *-from | 23:28 |
| Acce | coderus: if you care to look / patch to skip the merSDK check, the 32-bit libMer.so is here: http://foximity.net/public/libMer.so | 23:31 |
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