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| coderus | Updated https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/ssh-access-confirmation | 00:26 |
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| cryorat | nice work coderus! :) | 00:55 |
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| coderus | thanks qt bugs, i rewrited application in better way :D | 01:16 |
| klopsi-u3 | heh | 01:16 |
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| saidinesh5 | can someone tell me how much memory does the Jolla keyboard use? and what is "acceptable" from a keyboard? | 07:27 |
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| Stskeeps | how much does yours use? | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | make sure it's boosted if at all possible, and mmap files | 07:34 |
| saidinesh5 | Stskeeps: after this week's improvements 65MBish | 07:38 |
| saidinesh5 | also Stskeeps i ve decided against mmaping finally.... the OS would anyway swap in and out when needed isnt it? | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | no, mmap is much preferred | 07:39 |
| saidinesh5 | and then with mmaping one segfault and bam corrupted db | 07:39 |
| saidinesh5 | oh? | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | as in, if it's read-only db | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | if it changes, that's a different matter | 07:39 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh my dictionary is more or less QStringList as of now | 07:39 |
| saidinesh5 | and that gets updated with usage | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | do you load as a .so in the maliit process? | 07:40 |
| saidinesh5 | yup a maliit plugin | 07:40 |
| saidinesh5 | but the 65MB is that of a demo app | 07:40 |
| saidinesh5 | also could you point me to a resource on mmaping a QList<QString> to a file, i tried looking for related documentation but couldnt find anything about where QString stores it's stuff | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so you should already be boosted though that.. | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | you should measure the size of maliit server with the keyboard up and active | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | 65mb might be a bit high | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | so whatever you can pull of as a on-disk db would help | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | random curiousity | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | did you ever see the fleksy stuff? | 07:43 |
| saidinesh5 | yup on android i did | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | noticed their 'invisible keyboard' thing? | 07:43 |
| saidinesh5 | mhm i did | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | wonder if that's possible with yours | 07:43 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm not at the moment... | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | or theoretically possible | 07:45 |
| saidinesh5 | theoretically yes, we also use a fullscreen window | 07:45 |
| saidinesh5 | invisible one | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | though i'm not sure if that makes it useful | 07:46 |
| saidinesh5 | but not sure if it is useful | 07:46 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah should be fun trying it out though .. will do next week, will have to implement multitouch keys next week | 07:46 |
| saidinesh5 | or wait nope.. afaik maliit resizes the host app to | 07:47 |
| saidinesh5 | and redirects the input events too | 07:48 |
| saidinesh5 | so if i say my keyboard geometry is so and so, i only get touch events in that region afaik | 07:48 |
| saidinesh5 | so i dont think an invisible keyboard is possible as of now... | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | i mean the concept of it | 07:58 |
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| saidinesh5 | hmm.... well i will have to check.. because if maliit resizes the host app, then there is not much point behind an "invisible theme" | 08:04 |
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| Nokius__ | coderus: why are you not adding the ssh connect notification feature in to nemo? | 08:09 |
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| coderus | saidinesh5: page/window is always screen.width/screen.height. pagestack size modified by Qt.inputMethod.keyboardRectangle.width/height only | 08:13 |
| coderus | Nokius: i have no idea what are you talking about | 08:13 |
| saidinesh5 | coderus: yep, and if i set my input method's size to be 0 my input method wont get any touch events... so i have to check if there is any way create an invisible input method | 08:14 |
| coderus | saidinesh5: we can always patch lipstick for you :) | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | i'm more pondering if your input method is suitable for graphics-less input | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | implementation is a differnet matter | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | ;P | 08:15 |
| saidinesh5 | umm.... tough one.. usually the accuracy of the words is 80-100% for the top 10000 words | 08:15 |
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| Stskeeps | got a video of your input method somewhere? | 08:16 |
| saidinesh5 | (as in it is the first result out of the 5 suggestions) | 08:16 |
| saidinesh5 | sure | 08:16 |
| coderus | what about russian language? where you took/generated dictionaries? | 08:16 |
| saidinesh5 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jcJE6J5QJug | 08:16 |
| saidinesh5 | coderus: im using android dictionaries directly | 08:16 |
| saidinesh5 | (yet to push those changes) | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so there's a predictive word component too | 08:17 |
| saidinesh5 | but those dictionaries are very high quality so far | 08:17 |
| coderus | saidinesh5: cool then :) | 08:17 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 08:17 |
| coderus | my girlfriend want this keyboard for jolla so much :) | 08:17 |
| coderus | if she will be ok with this keyboard, then tohkbd will belong to me | 08:17 |
| coderus | else she will use my tohkbd :D | 08:18 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh hehh sure im trying hard to get an alpha version by the end of this month | 08:18 |
| saidinesh5 | just got my laptop back this week | 08:18 |
| saidinesh5 | so work on the maliit plugin resumes next week.. hoping to finish the android dictionaries patch by tonight | 08:18 |
| coderus | where is your sources btw? | 08:19 |
| saidinesh5 | on bit bucket | 08:20 |
| saidinesh5 | a private repo there | 08:20 |
| coderus | hehe | 08:20 |
| coderus | oks | 08:20 |
| saidinesh5 | currently closed cuz it isnt that ready yet | 08:20 |
| saidinesh5 | btw. there is someone else working on something similar too | 08:21 |
| saidinesh5 | thats quite good too imho | 08:21 |
| saidinesh5 | http://git.tuxfamily.org/okboard | 08:21 |
| coderus | oh :) | 08:22 |
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| cvp_ | coderus, i missing the search engine "Ixquick", can you built in? - http://bueltge.de/test/searchplugins/ixquick---deutsch.xml | 09:00 |
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| Nokius | coderus: was wondering about the ssh notification is not a nice thing to have in nemomobile | 09:09 |
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| coderus | cvp_: Ixquick is same with startpage, isn't it? | 10:09 |
| coderus | Nokius: i'm not working on nemomobile :) | 10:10 |
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| cvp_ | coderus, ha, yes looks like the same :D | 10:12 |
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| cvp_ | coderus, but i see on startpage there is a "enhanced by google". and on ixquick is not. | 10:14 |
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| coderus | cvp_: updated: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/search-engines-sailfish-browser | 10:37 |
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| cvp_ | coderus, love you! Thanks :) | 10:40 |
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| metallisto | Hello, can someone give me a hint how to get multi-line list items? | 10:43 |
| coderus | metallisto: explain | 10:45 |
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| metallisto | I need a search page where the result entries are to long for the width of the screen. Now my results are truncated at the end. | 10:48 |
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| coderus | first one: do you really need to display full results? | 10:50 |
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| coderus | and what component you using for items? | 10:50 |
| metallisto | I used the search page example from components to get started. I want to display full address entries as search result. | 10:53 |
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| coderus | set backgroundItem.height to label.paintedHeight, set label.width to parent.width, set label.wrapMode to Text.WrapAnywhere | 11:02 |
| coderus | should work | 11:02 |
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| metallisto | Thanks! I will try it. | 11:02 |
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| jaacoppi | leet | 11:37 |
| jaacoppi | eh, wrong channel | 11:37 |
| jaacoppi | should clean the keyboard, alt not working properly | 11:37 |
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| flux | hmm, in QML, can I create an object (in this case an instance of Item) and pass of a JSON object as a property to it? The code adding it in principle is: devicesModel.append({device : "hello", info : { begin: "1", end: "2" } }) and it's the 'info' part that's causing trouble | 11:48 |
| flux | the error I'm getting is [W] unknown:-1 - <Unknown File>: Can't assign to existing role 'info' of different type [VariantMap -> String] | 11:49 |
| Nicd- | you are assigning a variantmap to the model but before that the 'info' property has been a string | 11:50 |
| flux | (and the whole {}-part is actually coming from JSON.parse) | 11:50 |
| flux | well, I haven't actually declared any properties | 11:50 |
| Nicd- | the types of the properties are determined by the first item you insert into the model | 11:50 |
| flux | ah, that would explain it then | 11:51 |
| Nicd- | so if you insert {a: ''}, you cannot insert the next item as {a: 0} | 11:51 |
| flux | not all of my objects have 'info' | 11:51 |
| Nicd- | because the first item defined a as a string | 11:51 |
| flux | thanks! | 11:51 |
| flux | can I declare it and heav it work automatically? | 11:51 |
| flux | property var info; didn't seem to do the trick | 11:51 |
| Nicd- | if some of them don't have an info, maybe insert 'info: {}' | 11:52 |
| flux | cool, now it works, thanks :) | 11:52 |
| flux | it wasn't actually missing as I thought, it was indeed defaulted to "" instead of {} | 11:53 |
| Nicd- | you need to show me what you're working on tomorrow ;) | 11:53 |
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| flux | it's for controlling my wirelessly controllable power sockets | 11:54 |
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| Nicd- | hm, on TJC it is suggested to change the renderType of Labels to Text.NativeRendering to make large fonts look better | 11:58 |
| Nicd- | but it doesn't seem to work :/ | 11:58 |
| Nicd- | in other words it has no effect whatsoever | 12:00 |
| kimmoli | grr. after disconnecting picocom from my pseudo-terminal, my QSocketNotifier keeps signalling SockAct, and following read returns EIO > 100% cpu time, until i reconnect or kill my pst. | 12:13 |
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| Nicd- | damn, now the SDK stopped updating my TS file | 12:37 |
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| Nokius | where I can find a minimal flickbale application page for SFOS | 13:01 |
| Nicd- | possibly in the project template :) | 13:02 |
| Nokius | okay all my open tabs are now 404 :( | 13:03 |
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| Nokius | got it | 13:10 |
| Nicd- | finished my GPS speedometer app: https://blog.nytsoi.net/#!/2015/02/07/pitot-released (ping flux) | 13:13 |
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| anandrkris | Hi - How do you guys demo the Sailfish OS on a projector? I mean remotely project the screen.. | 13:20 |
| anandrkris | https://together.jolla.com/question/36501/remote-access-to-graphical-interface-waylandrdp/ | 13:20 |
| anandrkris | I am planning to do a demo for LUG discussion...any easy solutions? :) | 13:20 |
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| tbr | I've seen a webcam jig on FOSDEM photos | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | anandrkris: i think we've been looking at some vnc solution at least, but i don't think it's in releases yet | 13:23 |
| anandrkris | Stskeeps, Oh ok...thanks...Wayland supports it already? | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/commits/master , search for 'recorder' | 13:24 |
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| anandrkris | if you want us to promote Jolla, this is much needed | 13:24 |
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| anandrkris | i will add jolla-tablet tag - greater chance of someone responding ;) | 13:29 |
| anandrkris | On a serious note, this will actually be helpful for people who bought 10 tablet or 20 tablet kit | 13:29 |
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| coderus | Nokius: SailfishOS (SDK) folder -> examples -> componentgallery | 13:44 |
| Nokius | coderus: thanks solved it | 13:44 |
| Nokius | and works | 13:44 |
| coderus | Nokius: i'm sure you need to check that componentgallery first before making own interfaces | 13:45 |
| Nokius | :D | 13:45 |
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| newin | hey all ! =D | 15:25 |
| Price15x | greetings | 15:25 |
| newin | I've some question about dev on sailfish... | 15:27 |
| Yaniel | ask away | 15:28 |
| newin | I've ask a question in together.jolla.com if it's possible to get beatifull silica component in pure C++ code, the answer was no | 15:28 |
| newin | now i'm wonder why | 15:29 |
| newin | that is really wierd because C++ give a lot or flexibility in term of portability | 15:30 |
| newin | (and a lot of flexibility and performance in any cases) | 15:30 |
| newin | in addition the application that seems to be written without silica component (like situation) seems to run faster | 15:31 |
| Price15x | not a developer, but the general trend among linux users is not pro C++ | 15:34 |
| ajalkane | You can instantiate Silica components from C++, but that won't make it faster since the Silica components are mostly QML | 15:34 |
| Nokius | anyone tried json parsing into qml for SailfishOS most stuff online use bb10 components :-( | 15:35 |
| newin | Price15x: I am not saying "sailfish SDK shoud be pure C++" i'm just asking that's wierd to not let C++ fag use only C++ | 15:37 |
| newin | I know most user prefer QML and I understand | 15:38 |
| Price15x | newin: Yes. I didnt mean that I meant linux dev other then sailfish | 15:38 |
| ajalkane | I think you could do the whole app in C++, but it would be quite cumbersome and practically not faster than doing the UI in QML. Basically not worth it. | 15:40 |
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| newin_ | you cannot say it not worth it... it's 100% dependent of your app | 15:47 |
| ajalkane | qt_junkie: how's your project progressing? | 15:47 |
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| ajalkane | Well in my opinion it's not worth it if you're using silica components. It makes sense to write a C++ backend, but doing the UI in C++ with Silica components does not make sense. In my opinion. | 15:49 |
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| qt_junkie | ajalkane: testing, ui needs some work still | 15:58 |
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| ajalkane | qt_junkie: let me know when you need some beta testers | 16:03 |
| Nokius | :-/ | 16:07 |
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| coderus | Nokius: obj = JSON.parse(string); string = JSON.stringify(obj) | 16:37 |
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| Nokius | coderus: thx looks like I ahve to spend a next weekend with figering out how this works :D | 16:47 |
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| coderus | Nokius: it just convert json string to jsobject and vise versa | 17:39 |
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| Nokius | coderus: I'm looking for a way to get strings from nested arrays ... | 17:46 |
| Nokius | coderus: found this but its bb10 only https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25931755/how-to-access-nested-array-json-file-in-blackberry-10-using-qml :( | 17:47 |
| Nokius | coderus: atm I have this but this is not working for nested arrays https://github.com/Nokius/harbour-tagesschau/blob/master/qml/pages/ImpressumPage.qml | 17:48 |
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| Apteryx | Hello! I'm researching on the Jolla Phone right now, and was wondering if its using open source drivers or relying on libhybris and android binary blobs? | 17:50 |
| coderus | Nokius: JSON.parse(sting).rates[1] | 17:50 |
| coderus | Nokius: what is your data? | 17:50 |
| Nokius | coderus: get it from the request | 17:51 |
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| Nokius | Apteryx: libhybirs connect to the Android driver ask in #sailfishos-porters or #libhybirs for more details | 17:52 |
| Apteryx | Nokius: ok, thanks! :) | 17:53 |
| Nokius | coderus: e.g http://www.tagesschau.de/api/impressum/mobileappimpressum100.json | 17:53 |
| Nokius | Apteryx: I'm not so familiar with libhybris :) and before I say something wrong :-| | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | Apteryx: libhybris and android binary blobs - we try to use open interfacing when possible | 17:54 |
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| Nokius | Stskeeps: thanks :) | 17:54 |
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| Stskeeps | Apteryx: https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-hardware-adaptation-team-day-zero-bootstrapping/ for a bit of reasoning | 17:55 |
| Nokius | coderus: all the "news" are in the Json (text links for images video audio) | 17:56 |
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| Nokius | coderus: I'm away now have to do get ready for the next week :( | 17:57 |
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| coderus | Nokius: i see this json first time | 18:34 |
| coderus | so please tell me what data you want to get | 18:34 |
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| Nokius | coderus: https://www.zerobin.net/?f3db478a780981c1#BaCuZkkH71mJwsJG9OpmLugyQ8gzdYK7tN6kr/D5gtw= | 18:58 |
| Nokius | coderus: oh what are they doing .... | 18:58 |
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| Nokius | coderus: Thanks for your help :D | 19:02 |
| coderus | Nokius: var teasers = JSON.parse(text).teasers | 19:02 |
| coderus | teasers[0].shortheadline | 19:02 |
| coderus | and so on | 19:02 |
| coderus | json parse just giving you object | 19:02 |
| coderus | you can access any properties | 19:03 |
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| Nokius | coderus: thanks but I don't get it yead | 19:08 |
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| coderus | json = '{"type":"index", "news": [{"title":"123"}, {"title":"321"}]}' | 19:16 |
| coderus | JSON.parse(json).news[0].title == "123" | 19:16 |
| coderus | understand? | 19:16 |
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| Nokius | coderus: yes this part i got atm I bit swimming how to get there to have a json and to prase it but I work on that :) found a hint | 19:30 |
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| Nokius | coderus: why I get this error https://www.zerobin.net/?266c82ce5c257f45#6mERwhcpcVuwX8JVLy23wiD37Mr+ooP/FnEjXKVqwqY= (or is it impossible to use function from the Column in the menu? | 19:40 |
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| Nokius | coderus: also this retuns a not defined https://gist.github.com/Nokius/c16bcf04460916477051 | 19:49 |
| Nokius | coderus: ah I believe I got the point | 19:55 |
| coderus | define function in root | 19:55 |
| coderus | not define funxtions in randon location :D | 19:55 |
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| Nokius | coderus: https://gist.github.com/Nokius/c16bcf04460916477051 ? | 20:01 |
| coderus | :D | 20:02 |
| coderus | *facepaml* | 20:02 |
| coderus | Page { id: ... function ... | 20:02 |
| ajalkane | cruel :-d | 20:03 |
| ajalkane | Move it nokius and you'll be just alright | 20:03 |
| Nokius | :-( sorry | 20:03 |
| coderus | i'm going to sleep now :) | 20:04 |
| Nokius | coderus: nn | 20:04 |
| ajalkane | don't worry about it, it's not immediately obvious. But everything in QML starts with a root object, so you can't put JS functions before it | 20:04 |
| Nokius | shud do this too | 20:04 |
| Nokius | coderus: THANKS!! | 20:05 |
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| kimmoli | urf " if (cmd.startsWith("udump"), Qt::CaseInsensitive) " seems to be legal C... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_operator#Condition | 20:37 |
| kimmoli | and i was wondering why this doesn't work | 20:37 |
| ajalkane | hehe, had to scratch my head for a second to figure out why that's valid | 20:38 |
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| Nokius | coderus: hoped I got it https://gist.github.com/Nokius/c16bcf04460916477051 but I get an error still :-/ cu tomorrow night again thx :) | 20:43 |
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| Nokius | nn | 20:47 |
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| ellvis | hi | 21:43 |
| Yaniel | hi | 21:43 |
| ellvis | i am a newbie in jolla&sailfishos | 21:44 |
| ellvis | just few days | 21:45 |
| klopsi-u3 | me too | 21:45 |
| klopsi-u3 | do you have a jolla phone yet? | 21:45 |
| ellvis | yes | 21:45 |
| ellvis | for about 6 days now | 21:45 |
| Yaniel | welcome and have a blast! | 21:45 |
| ellvis | thanks | 21:45 |
| klopsi-u3 | how is it? hard to get used-to? | 21:45 |
| Yaniel | I unlearned symbian in less than a week | 21:46 |
| Yaniel | and that was by accident | 21:46 |
| ellvis | no way, it took me like a day to not wanting to go back to android UI | 21:46 |
| ellvis | i wanted to ask about jabber, i am having problems to connect to my account | 21:47 |
| Yaniel | I recommand #jollamobile for that | 21:47 |
| ellvis | i read about the certificates, tried to copy the right one there but it is still not working | 21:47 |
| ellvis | ah, okaj, thanks | 21:47 |
| Yaniel | this is more of a developer oriented channel | 21:47 |
| ellvis | ok, then I hope to come here in some month when I will get better look inside :) | 21:48 |
| Yaniel | wouldn't be surprised if there was a local jolla user channel for your area too | 21:48 |
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| Flexman | say is it possible to customize the jolla font so that it is thicker? | 23:16 |
| Flexman | font is far too thin | 23:17 |
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| klopsi-u3 | anythings possible :) | 23:24 |
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