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| Toxip | https://www.reddcointalk.org/topic/43/sailfishos-reddcoin-wallet/5 | 01:19 |
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| Toxip | SailfishOS reddcoin wallet... make some noise over there and show them we want one! | 01:19 |
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| keestu_ | hi all, i have a basic question about sailfishos. So, it is a SDK to develop programs on Top of ios/android/windows ? | 04:32 |
| salyavin | The SDK I use is on Linux using Virtualbox. | 04:34 |
| salyavin | kaestu_ please go to https://sailfishos.org/ | 04:34 |
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| salyavin | as you see it's for Mac and Win as well | 04:35 |
| salyavin | They still need to update the SDK for today's u10 release but those should work just great. | 04:35 |
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| keestu_ | salyavin, thanks for reply. that's true. so, it is not for mobile platforms?. | 05:10 |
| Turski | keestu_: sailfish is mobile platform | 05:11 |
| Turski | keestu_: but ofcourse you need a desktop platform to develop the software for that | 05:11 |
| keestu_ | Reason why i am asking is we have a our own imx6 development board, where i see if the possibility of porting sailfish os. | 05:11 |
| Turski | keestu_: just develop that software with QT in mind | 05:12 |
| keestu_ | Turski, i can develop app with Qt library as well. that what is the difference using sailfish os ? | 05:13 |
| Turski | keestu_: if you use QT5, there's no problems on bringing it for sailfish | 05:14 |
| Turski | except few import limitations | 05:14 |
| Turski | QT4 is problem | 05:15 |
| keestu_ | so, if i use saifish, then entire os is replaced ?. say android for example ? | 05:15 |
| nykac | keestu_: yes | 05:15 |
| Turski | QT libraries are cross-platform | 05:16 |
| nykac | keestu_: sailfish is an os, similar to android | 05:16 |
| Turski | i don't know if there's any other cross-platform libraries for UI components..? | 05:16 |
| keestu_ | Cool. we are porting android into imx board, so, we should be able to port sailfishos also right ?. | 05:16 |
| Turski | keestu_: basically if you choose to use QT | 05:17 |
| keestu_ | turski, you mean QT to develop applications on top of sailfish os right ? | 05:17 |
| Turski | keestu_: QT is the basic library whole sailfish is depending on | 05:18 |
| Turski | i have no idea what's the basic thing on android or on iOS | 05:19 |
| Turski | but as far as i know, QT is very much cross-platform | 05:19 |
| keestu_ | Turski, true, so, [hardware] -> [linux] -> [sailfish] -[ Applications ] , that r the layers right ? | 05:19 |
| Turski | keestu_: as far as i understand, yes | 05:19 |
| Turski | but maybe i should go to sleep, it's 7.21 AM already | 05:21 |
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| Turski | i still have the possibility to fall asleep before sun is rising | 05:21 |
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| keestu_ | Oh. Turski good night then take care. ;) | 05:24 |
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| ulvus | morning | 06:34 |
| coderus | moo | 06:34 |
| coderus | Report in | 06:34 |
| coderus | sledges ^ | 06:35 |
| ulvus | its 7.30 am , dk gmt+1 | 06:35 |
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| ulvus | im learning to code and virtualbox and christmas shopping for food and candy and cola they next days. | 06:36 |
| ulvus | so its christmas holiday now here today | 06:37 |
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| ulvus | https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuTYQsyap3ew8On3GT61B4WhXKtyb55-0cMFLZVgJgf6oz9prhFSb6dxAu | 06:40 |
| ulvus | sledges? picture | 06:40 |
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| coderus | no. sledges -> http://i.imgur.com/JRldKho.png | 06:43 |
| ulvus | whats that, like p or anduino | 06:44 |
| ulvus | på | 06:44 |
| ulvus | pi | 06:44 |
| urjaman | looks like FPGA to me | 06:44 |
| urjaman | (very blurry though...) | 06:45 |
| urjaman | maybe not ... | 06:45 |
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| ulvus | jam urjaman | 06:47 |
| ulvus | blurry ? | 06:47 |
| urjaman | well, that Altera logo wasnt the most clear | 06:49 |
| ulvus | altech? | 06:50 |
| ulvus | oh altera | 06:50 |
| urjaman | anyways, I should've read the known issues on U10 ... vice city sound stutters :| | 06:51 |
| ulvus | u10 sailfiish? | 06:53 |
| urjaman | yeah | 06:54 |
| urjaman | "Audio stuttering has been observed in Android applications. We are | 06:55 |
| urjaman | aware of this issue and are still working on it. We will push out an | 06:55 |
| ulvus | arent in jailfish os vm yet | 06:55 |
| urjaman | update as soon as a fix is available." ... thanks | 06:55 |
| urjaman | apparently they took being an opt-in for U9 as opt-in for early U10 availability (== it asked me if i want it)... or did they just send it to all? | 06:56 |
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| ulvus | dont know but Stskeep and other community and are working on it. i think,. great work and cooperation by my littlebrother and community i think | 06:59 |
| ulvus | and article to read for us all | 07:00 |
| ulvus | https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-hardware-adaptation-team-day-zero-bootstrapping/ | 07:00 |
| tigeli | urjaman: update is not available for all yet | 07:00 |
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| m4g0g | hello | 07:19 |
| m4g0g | Yesterday was released a new version of sailfish. If I developing application in old sdk what challenges I can meet? | 07:21 |
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| Nicd- | m4g0g: the U9 SDK (1410) already has Qt 5.2 so you should be fine with that | 07:24 |
| m4g0g | but I have older version than U9 | 07:25 |
| Nicd- | then upgrade to 1410 :) | 07:26 |
| m4g0g | U9 was released with new dialogs? | 07:26 |
| Nicd- | yes | 07:26 |
| m4g0g | but how I can test application on phone if I haven't new os version? | 07:26 |
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| Nicd- | haven't you upgraded your phone? | 07:27 |
| m4g0g | There is no upgrade in my country now | 07:27 |
| Nicd- | oh | 07:28 |
| urjaman | well.. | 07:28 |
| Nicd- | do you have U9 on your phone? | 07:28 |
| m4g0g | Nicd-: no | 07:28 |
| urjaman | "Update: Do not use alphanumeric lock code feature yet. Release roll-out on hold to fix an issue discovered w.r.t it." ... | 07:28 |
| Nicd- | oh yeah, that | 07:28 |
| Nicd- | m4g0g: well if you want to test what your app looks like on U9 or U10 then you need to use the 1410 SDK emulator | 07:29 |
| m4g0g | ok | 07:29 |
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| Nokius_ | no hotfix so fare? | 08:07 |
| Armadillo | hotfix for what? | 08:08 |
| locusf | alnum lock | 08:08 |
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| Nokius_ | will get some breakfast | 08:09 |
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| coderus | m4g0g: u9 and u10 is almost same at qt side, don't worry about it | 08:37 |
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| coderus | fix for devlock is under developing | 08:38 |
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| Nokius_ | coderus: :) I was assuming this | 08:42 |
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| m4g0g | any ideas? | 08:46 |
| Nokius_ | oh I see it added on tjc :) | 08:51 |
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| Armadillo | is there any known issue with the TextSwitch element where the description exceeds the bottom element border? | 08:53 |
| SK_work | Armadillo: I guess there can be | 08:53 |
| Armadillo | I have a textswitch in a list item delegated by a SilicaListview and it's not possible to control the height of the textswitch | 08:53 |
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| Armadillo | hm :-/ | 08:55 |
| Armadillo | maybe I should ask this on the mailing list | 08:55 |
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| Armadillo | writing my own textSwitch element could be a solution | 09:00 |
| Armadillo | although I don't like this type of double work | 09:01 |
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| SK_work | Armadillo: yes, put a test-case too please | 09:07 |
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| Armadillo | yes, I'll try to include a simple test case, mine has very much code around it | 09:17 |
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| * xkr47 keeps reloading the 71741 question to see when the "on hold" status would get dropped from vaarainjärvi :) | 09:46 | |
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| Nokius | vgrade tbr locusf javispedro qwazix sorry my fault --> https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2015 | 09:50 |
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| qwazix | Nokius, no worries | 09:52 |
| qwazix | next year | 09:52 |
| Nokius | :) | 09:52 |
| Nokius | qwazix: I heard u will give a lightning talk :) | 09:53 |
| qwazix | Yeah, my talk is accepted :excited: | 09:53 |
| * tbr isn't even sure if he'll be able to afford FOSDEM this time, so no difference to me | 09:54 | |
| Nokius | tbr: whats with your room? iirc you booked one ? | 09:55 |
| tbr | Nokius: I only have reservations, I can cancel 24h in advance. I consciously didn't book a flight yet as that would be non-refundable. | 09:55 |
| Nokius | tbr: okay do you know the price for it and location? | 09:56 |
| * qwazix updated the wiki with talk info and link | 09:56 | |
| coderus | m4g0g: u9 and u10 is almost same at qt side, don't worry about it | 09:57 |
| m4g0g | but my phone has only U8 | 09:57 |
| coderus | Armadillo: show code | 09:57 |
| coderus | m4g0g: you need to install u9 sdk as soon as you install u10 | 09:58 |
| Armadillo | coderus https://github.com/Armadill0/harbour-tasklist/blob/master/qml/pages/TaskPage.qml#L407 | 09:58 |
| m4g0g | coderus: I understand. When I can download U10 I will install u9 sdl | 09:58 |
| m4g0g | sdk* | 09:58 |
| coderus | Armadillo: put everything inside column | 10:00 |
| coderus | m4g0g: right | 10:00 |
| coderus | and u10 sdk will be released week later | 10:00 |
| coderus | Armadillo: in your case put switch inside column | 10:00 |
| coderus | Armadillo: and remove everything you copied from ListItem internals | 10:00 |
| coderus | no bugs in ListView/TextSwitch here | 10:01 |
| coderus | i have to go now | 10:01 |
| Armadillo | I'll try | 10:03 |
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| Wnt | Have you noticed that the QML font rendering gets really bad when the font size gets larger: https://together.jolla.com/question/72118/ugly-rendering-of-large-fonts | 10:11 |
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| Wnt | or maybe the default font just looks bad at large font sizes? | 10:12 |
| Nicd- | you can see that in the UI, looking at the current time | 10:13 |
| Nicd- | it has been like that from the start | 10:14 |
| Nicd- | I think it's the font | 10:14 |
| Wnt | yes | 10:14 |
| Wnt | maybe it's some kind of CPU optimized font that doesn't have any curves | 10:14 |
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| Wnt | instead of the vector only consists of straight lines | 10:14 |
| Wnt | I also wrote that to the TJC question "The same problem can also be witnessed in the lockscreen clock, but the as the font is a bit smaller there, the problem is not so clearly visible."" | 10:15 |
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| ln- | https://github.com/blog/1938-git-client-vulnerability-announced | 10:17 |
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| tbr | Nokius: check the st nicolas. it probaly still has those | 10:23 |
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| Armadillo | coderus removing anchors.fill from textSwitch fixed the issue, but your hint brought me to the solution, thanks :) | 10:27 |
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| meklu | hmm, sdl2 still gives a black screen on the device | 10:29 |
| Nokius | tbr: sounds good | 10:30 |
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| Nokius | tbr lets see | 10:50 |
| pp_ | oooh, systemtap! <3 | 10:50 |
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| ln- | i know i18n and l10n, but i10n is something entirely new: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-utilities/commits/master | 11:00 |
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| anandrkris | Hi - A question for those of you not busy with hotfix for U10 ;-) | 11:36 |
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| anandrkris | In phone app, does 'Save as Contact' option appear for you when Quick calling is disabled? | 11:37 |
| anandrkris | i mean, for unsaved numbers | 11:37 |
| Armadillo | anandrkris no, instead of save as contact I have send message | 11:44 |
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| Nicd- | yes it does | 11:50 |
| Nicd- | it's in the pulldown menu | 11:50 |
| Nicd- | there's 'Save' and 'Link' | 11:50 |
| Armadillo | I think he means on the list | 11:50 |
| Nicd- | then why specify that quick call is disabled? | 11:51 |
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| Armadillo | because this changes the context menu behaviour | 11:52 |
| meklu | because it might affect the situation in case it's coded weirdly | 11:52 |
| Nicd- | Armadillo: does it change it? | 11:52 |
| Armadillo | I think the intention was, that you already can save the contact on the number specific page | 11:52 |
| Armadillo | so the context menu item can be used for another use case | 11:52 |
| Armadillo | Ni yes | 11:52 |
| Armadillo | Nicd- | 11:52 |
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| anandrkris | Armadillo: okies...makes sense (somewhat) | 11:57 |
| anandrkris | was confused for a moment that the option disappeared | 11:57 |
| Armadillo | same here :D | 11:57 |
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| Armadillo | had to check it twice to be sure I really saw it :D | 11:57 |
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| anandrkris | IMO, there's no harm in showing it in both cases - saves few steps | 11:58 |
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| anandrkris | Anyways, now at least i know how to get it done :-) | 11:59 |
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| m4g0g | 5036860 | 12:32 |
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| coderus | wow, usch a new bug: https://together.jolla.com/question/71900/11126-cleaning-of-clipboard-crashes-android-apps/ | 12:37 |
| coderus | m4g0g: okay | 12:37 |
| m4g0g | lol | 12:37 |
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| Armadillo | lol i didn't know clipboard has a context menu :D | 12:39 |
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| Armadillo | very interesting, thanks^^ | 12:39 |
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| Armadillo | coderus that did the trick: https://github.com/Armadill0/harbour-tasklist/commit/852e433173c597d392938b714e597e47fe6cbe9e#diff-61516e33a6214ff1c61c4e1511d74a16L413 | 12:43 |
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| Armadillo | your hint brought me to the solution, thanks ;) | 12:44 |
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| meklu | any way to adjust the port the web interface in the IDE runs on? https://sailfishos.org/images/sdk_control_devheaders.png | 12:55 |
| meklu | already have something on 8080 and have never bothered investigating what that had in store | 12:55 |
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| coderus | Armadillo: :) | 13:29 |
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| coderus | meklu: edit mersdk config | 13:30 |
| coderus | ~/.config/SailfishBeta1/qtcreator/mersdk.xml | 13:30 |
| coderus | idk if it editable from gui or not | 13:30 |
| meklu | coderus: thanks, jotted that down in my TODO | 13:31 |
| meklu | :) | 13:31 |
| coderus | sledges: lol, reverting alphanumeric functions? :D | 13:36 |
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| sledges | coderus: would you risk more lockouts before doing it 110% on features like devicelock? | 13:39 |
| coderus | okay :D | 13:39 |
| urjaman | I'm finding it difficult to imagine why this is so hard, but yeah, stuff like that should be tested properly, so I'm okay with a "revert until we test it properly" | 13:40 |
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| M4rtinK | well, it is working as intended :) | 13:43 |
| M4rtinK | it is a screen *lock* :) | 13:43 |
| urjaman | yeah, case of "this lock works too well" :P | 13:43 |
| meklu | what's better than an unbreakable lock? ;) | 13:43 |
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| M4rtinK | it would be called un-/lock if it could be also unlocked :) | 13:44 |
| coderus | sledges: what about used who have enabled alphanumeric in u10? after installing hotfix update devices will be bricked? :D | 13:46 |
| coderus | sledges: there are many peoples who not reading twitter/tjc, already installed u10 and will install hotfix | 13:46 |
| urjaman | well, hopefully they're only disabling the creation of new alphanumeric passwords... | 13:47 |
| M4rtinK | just make it possible to input alphabet using a numeric keyboard - problem solved :) | 13:47 |
| sledges | coderus: got that covered, thanks for good eyes;) | 13:48 |
| M4rtinK | like on a normal phone or binary ASCII/Unicode representation :) | 13:48 |
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| coderus | sledges: how? | 13:52 |
| meklu | probably going to revert those to no lock or something | 13:54 |
| M4rtinK | meklu: yep, that seems to be the most sensible thing to do | 13:54 |
| sledges | that would mean we're clearing device codes which is security issue if you give deeper thought into it, so no | 13:55 |
| sledges | beer bet time? | 13:55 |
| sledges | :D | 13:55 |
| M4rtinK | just show a "blah reverted blah, enter a new *numeric* key" | 13:55 |
| coderus | just wanted to write same :D | 13:55 |
| Nicd- | yeah, I wonder if it's even possible to reset the code without inputting it first | 13:56 |
| coderus | sledges: i have only one in my mind: request to setup numberic key before updating to hotfix | 13:56 |
| coderus | Nicd-: sure, using jolla rnd tools :D | 13:56 |
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| louisdk | I keep getting premission denied trying to ssh to my Jolla. I've installed u10, enabled dev mode and both my Jolla and Linux laptop is on the same network. Password is set. | 13:57 |
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| coderus | louisdk: reboot after enabling devmode to start ssh server on device :) | 13:57 |
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| louisdk | coderus, have tried didn't help. Strange enough it worked yesterday without rebooted needed. | 13:59 |
| urjaman | (a) that shouldnt be needed anymore and (b) "permission denied" sounds like something the ssh server would say | 13:59 |
| sledges | beer bet is still on ;P | 13:59 |
| coderus | sledges: alphanumberic keypad will be showed once after update completed to enter old devicelock code and then only numpad available? | 14:01 |
| meklu | if anyone managed to update with the alphanumerics, just turn those into the corresponding number keys and keep the numbers as numbers? | 14:01 |
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| meklu | and make it into a number lock | 14:01 |
| sledges | coderus: closer | 14:01 |
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| sledges | meklu: farther, but nice idea:) | 14:01 |
| meklu | D: | 14:01 |
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| coderus | sledges: so, it's happening after update? | 14:04 |
| meklu | 1, 1, 1... err... 1 | 14:04 |
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| coderus | sledges: no hints? :) | 14:07 |
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| sledges | gave as much;) | 14:10 |
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| pp_ | just block enabling it but keep other code as-is :-) | 14:21 |
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| coderus | sledges: its like asking to change code after booting, but not exactly? | 14:27 |
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| sledges | coderus: cold:) | 14:36 |
| coderus | numpad will have multitap features to enter alphanumeric? | 14:38 |
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| coderus | requezt to clear devicelock code before update? | 14:40 |
| coderus | request to clear d2vicelock code after update? | 14:42 |
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| coderus | limit exceeded? :D | 15:10 |
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| vgrade | Nokius: no worries, plenty of places to meetup | 15:17 |
| TemeV | Is there somewhere documentation about sleep behaviour with Sailfish? | 15:19 |
| TemeV | when and how deep sleep the phone goes | 15:20 |
| TemeV | etc | 15:20 |
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| xfade_ | pssssssst ;) | 16:11 |
| tigeli | wake up, wake up! :D | 16:12 |
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| sledges | :D | 16:18 |
| coderus | sledges: none? | 16:18 |
| Yaniel | did I miss something? | 16:18 |
| xfade_ | Yaniel: yes | 16:20 |
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| Yaniel | :( | 16:20 |
| Yaniel | this was not the downtimeI needed nor the one I deserved | 16:21 |
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| coderus | sledges: okay. i have an answer for your beer question. | 16:28 |
| coderus | it's so obvious and because of that it's so simple (stupid?) | 16:30 |
| coderus | and because of that my mazelock will have a big problems to implement :D | 16:31 |
| coderus | sledges: can we expect devicelock alphanumeric will be solved in this year? :D | 16:31 |
| coderus | sledges: can i publish answer about devicelock please? :D | 16:31 |
| TemeV | i think reading the answer from tjc counts as cheating | 16:35 |
| coderus | ah :D | 16:36 |
| coderus | it's released | 16:36 |
| coderus | stupid me :D | 16:36 |
| coderus | >:D | 16:36 |
| coderus | very stupid coderus :D | 16:38 |
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| Nokius | cool hotfix is out! :) | 16:43 |
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| Nokius | btw why the backup of Playlist is gone since U10 | 16:49 |
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| coderus | sledges: ping | 17:42 |
| coderus | proper patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9571685/ | 17:42 |
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| coderus | Nokius: wanna test it before i release it on openrepos as patchmanager patch? | 17:51 |
| Nokius | coderus: newer used patchmanager so fare why not :) | 17:52 |
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| Nokius | coderus: sledges is on holiday until 02.01.15 | 17:52 |
| coderus | Nokius: save this paste as file | 17:53 |
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| coderus | pkcon install patch | 17:53 |
| coderus | devel-su | 17:53 |
| coderus | cd /folder/with/file | 17:53 |
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| coderus | patch -p1 -d /usr/share/jolla-settings -i /folder/with/file.patch | 17:54 |
| Nokius | coderus: is there any manager needed or just copy to the device? | 17:55 |
| coderus | Just copy to device | 17:56 |
| coderus | uploaded to github | 17:56 |
| coderus | so | 17:56 |
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| coderus | new instuction: :D | 17:56 |
| coderus | 1. devel-su | 17:56 |
| coderus | 2. curl -O https://raw.githubusercontent.com/CODeRUS/sailfishos-devicelock-method-fix-patch/master/patch/unified_diff.patch | 17:56 |
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| coderus | 3. pkcon install patch | 17:56 |
| coderus | 4. patch -p1 -d / -i $PWD/unified_diff.patch | 17:57 |
| coderus | thats all | 17:57 |
| coderus | now open settings and check for bug :) | 17:57 |
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| Nokius | coderus: lets see | 17:58 |
| coderus | you can undo patch later using -R option in same command | 17:59 |
| Nokius | got one :-) | 17:59 |
| coderus | so i can tell it's safe for you to test my patch now :) | 17:59 |
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| Nokius | bug is i can't uncheck Numpad :-/ | 18:00 |
| Nokius | no vid | 18:00 |
| Nokius | coderus: ^ | 18:00 |
| Nokius | pressed it 2 or 3 times with correct behaver optionm on option off option on than it stays on | 18:01 |
| Nokius | now it ask for the code (PIN atm) but option still on | 18:02 |
| Nokius | coderus: ^ | 18:02 |
| coderus | Nokius: and you have alphanumeric code? | 18:02 |
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| Nokius | no | 18:03 |
| Nokius | have numcode | 18:03 |
| coderus | well, thats old sailfish bug, i didn't fixed it | 18:03 |
| Nokius | and its repordactibile | 18:03 |
| coderus | can fix it too if you want so :D | 18:03 |
| Nokius | :D | 18:03 |
| coderus | my fix is to restrict enabling numpad when alphanumeric code is set, you know ;) | 18:04 |
| Nokius | :) | 18:04 |
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| Nokius | I got it (hope so) if you press fast the option it will be not turing off stays on | 18:05 |
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| coderus | with alphanumeric code set? | 18:06 |
| Nokius | and the keypad is enable when you delte the pin option and u set a new so looks like a graphic "glitsh" ? | 18:06 |
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| Nokius | no | 18:06 |
| r0kk3rz | are there any finns around here that uses SirenSong? | 18:07 |
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| Nokius | if alphanumeric code is enbaled the effect is not happining | 18:07 |
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| coderus | Nokius: i dont understand what bug you searching :D | 18:08 |
| coderus | i need you to reproduce bug when 1.1.1.26 was cancelled :D | 18:08 |
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| Nokius | got the 1.1.1.26 bug now | 18:09 |
| Nokius | the post before are new bug ^^ | 18:10 |
| coderus | 23:07 < Nokius> if alphanumeric code is enbaled the effect is not happining | 18:11 |
| Nokius | yes the new bug not the 1.1.1.26 | 18:12 |
| coderus | 23:09 < Nokius> got the 1.1.1.26 bug now | 18:12 |
| coderus | what this means then? :D | 18:12 |
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| Nokius | that I got the effect from last night | 18:13 |
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| coderus | you can enable numpad option when alphanumeric option enabled with my patch? | 18:14 |
| Nokius | yes | 18:14 |
| coderus | how? | 18:14 |
| Nokius | give me a minit will get a frute device as camera :) | 18:15 |
| coderus | well | 18:15 |
| Nokius | and will try to reproduce a 3. time :) | 18:15 |
| coderus | revert patch | 18:15 |
| coderus | i'll upload better version now | 18:15 |
| coderus | fixing your favorite multiple press bug :D | 18:16 |
| ZnurreLaptop | hi, a question about the Silica ComboBox component: is it possible to share the same ContextMenu instance between two or more ComboBox instances? I want the exact same item source, but still being able to select different values in each instance | 18:16 |
| ZnurreLaptop | currently the ComboBoxes seems to become synchronized when I use the same ContextMenu instance | 18:16 |
| Nokius | okay | 18:16 |
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| coderus | Nokius: reverted? | 18:19 |
| coderus | ZnurreLaptop: yes it's using currentIndex as source of value | 18:20 |
| Nokius | coderus: yes | 18:20 |
| Nokius | like vid? or me telling | 18:20 |
| coderus | Nokius: rm unified_diff.patch | 18:20 |
| coderus | and then curl && patch as before | 18:20 |
| coderus | link and commands are same | 18:20 |
| ZnurreLaptop | coderus: how would you go about solving the problem? simply duplicating the item source, even though they contain exactly the same items? or is there some way to work around it? | 18:20 |
| coderus | ZnurreLaptop: you can try to use same repeater inside different ContextMenu | 18:20 |
| coderus | not sure if it helps you | 18:21 |
| ZnurreLaptop | coderus: that's a good idea actually, I could try that :) | 18:21 |
| ZnurreLaptop | thanks! | 18:21 |
| Nokius | coderus: https://dpaste.de/iBEF | 18:23 |
| Nc_ | Uhm, if Project A (QtQuick app) is dependent on Project B (static library), how do I keep Project A from trying to make an RPM file for Project B? in this case, Project B being a statically linked lib, I shouldn't need an RPM for it | 18:23 |
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| coderus | Nc_: what? | 18:24 |
| coderus | one spec = one rpm, isn't it? | 18:24 |
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| coderus | or you have non-standart spec, not from sdk? | 18:24 |
| Yaniel | is it possible to nest rpms? | 18:24 |
| Nc_ | coderus, deploying Project A results in it saying it cannot find spec in Project B's folders | 18:24 |
| coderus | show it then | 18:24 |
| Yaniel | (out of curiosity) | 18:24 |
| Nc_ | Project B doesn't have a spec, because it is not supposed to result in an RPM | 18:25 |
| coderus | Yaniel: it's possible sure | 18:25 |
| coderus | jsut not using sdk spectacles templates :) | 18:25 |
| coderus | Nc_: something wrong with A spec | 18:25 |
| coderus | Nokius: success? | 18:25 |
| coderus | (me) | 18:25 |
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| Nokius | coderus: ^ | 18:26 |
| coderus | Nokius: you didn't reverted first patch then :D | 18:26 |
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| coderus | pkcon install jolla-settings | 18:26 |
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| Nc_ | the A spec is 100% default and looking through it, not seeing anything curious :( | 18:26 |
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| coderus | Nc_: well, you need to show it, or search google to help you | 18:27 |
| coderus | Nokius: and patch again after installing original jolla-settings :) | 18:27 |
| Nc_ | Show the A spec? | 18:27 |
| coderus | Nc_: show A spec | 18:27 |
| Nc_ | http://pastebin.com/Mytpb8wj | 18:29 |
| Nokius | coderus: after pkcon still hints error :) | 18:29 |
| Nc_ | What scares me is that I've used this setup several times, and suddenly it stopped working :( | 18:29 |
| coderus | Nc_: show your build error | 18:30 |
| coderus | Nokius: hm, let me check it | 18:30 |
| Nc_ | coderus, "Fatal: No spec file found in '/home/mersdk/share//projects/libQTIoT/src/rpm/' and couldn't make one from a yaml #1" | 18:30 |
| Nokius | coderus: remove than install? or is it not so safe? | 18:30 |
| coderus | Nokius: do clean? | 18:30 |
| coderus | Nokius: you shouldn't remove system packages | 18:31 |
| Nokius | coderus: ^^ | 18:31 |
| Nokius | coderus: clean what ? | 18:31 |
| Nokius | got | 18:31 |
| Nokius | it | 18:31 |
| Nokius | no | 18:32 |
| Nokius | coderus: what u mean with clean? | 18:32 |
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| coderus | Nokius: sorry, pkcon install jolla-settings-system | 18:32 |
| coderus | Nokius: sorry, do clean is for Nc_ :D | 18:33 |
| coderus | too many users with N in chat :D | 18:33 |
| Nokius | no probs | 18:33 |
| Nokius | done lets see | 18:33 |
| Nokius | coderus: ^ | 18:33 |
| coderus | Nokius: waiting for your results :) | 18:34 |
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| Nc_ | Cleaning all, rebuilding (though, did this earlier) :) | 18:34 |
| coderus | Nc_: clean sometimes not cleaning shadow build folder, do it manually if needed | 18:35 |
| Nokius | looks good so fare | 18:36 |
| Nokius | coderus: ^ | 18:37 |
| coderus | Nokius: cool :) | 18:37 |
| coderus | both bugs gone? | 18:37 |
| Nc_ | noticed earlier, that if I had CCP file from Project B open, Project A's Run process would also complain - might be something similar | 18:37 |
| Nc_ | ...and now it is throwing up more errors :( | 18:38 |
| kimmoli | having two projects open in sdk - fail in build | 18:39 |
| kimmoli | at least never works for me | 18:39 |
| Nokius | coderus: u got both :) | 18:39 |
| Nc_ | it used to work just fine the last several days :( | 18:39 |
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| Nc_ | but kimmoli wins the beer - dropping Project B from the SDK's session worked.... | 18:40 |
| kimmoli | o/ | 18:40 |
| * kimmoli writes that down.. | 18:41 | |
| Nc_ | Earlier running with 4 projects open ... wonder if issue is specifically when running with 2 | 18:42 |
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| Nokius | coderus: how about adding if alphanumeric option was enabled and the code is removed that the new code is a numpad? | 18:43 |
| coderus | Having files with same names in multiple projects opened adding many fun bugs :D | 18:43 |
| coderus | Nokius: why? | 18:43 |
| Nokius | coderus: comfort feature ? was just guess | 18:45 |
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| Nokius | coderus: no change to get numpad active wen alphanumeric option is on | 18:51 |
| Nokius | for me | 18:51 |
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| Nokius | coderus: if I lock it is not askin for the code only when I enable autolock no delay :-? | 18:53 |
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| coderus | Nokius: i dont understand what you mean :D | 18:56 |
| coderus | explain please | 18:56 |
| Nokius | okay reinstalled the setting looks like it normal behaver :-? strance | 18:56 |
| Nokius | coderus: ^ | 18:56 |
| Nokius | coderus: I wondering why the phone is not locked wen I press power button or use the down swipe | 18:58 |
| Nokius | but it is normal :-S only if autolock no delay is enable it locks when pressing the powerkey / swipe down | 18:59 |
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| Nokius | coderus: u get my point? | 19:00 |
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| Nokius | oh | 19:02 |
| coderus | Nokius: you need doublepress to devicelock | 19:02 |
| coderus | of wait timeout, yes | 19:02 |
| coderus | its designed to be so | 19:03 |
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| Nokius | coderus: i got it again but I dont know how | 19:04 |
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| Nokius | coderus: alphanumeric option on and keypad optin was able to select but i cant reproduce it | 19:08 |
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| coderus | Nokius: maybe you reverted patch? :) | 19:09 |
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| coderus | installed original jolla-system-settings probably :) | 19:10 |
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| Nokius | coderus: have 1.1.1.27 | 19:10 |
| coderus | Nokius: try to reproduce then :) | 19:11 |
| Nokius | guess what I m doing :P | 19:11 |
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| coderus | tea drink? | 19:12 |
| Nokius | ^^ | 19:12 |
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| Nokius | I remabe that I went to notification view delte notifiation Twitter Tweetian and a Download tipt a dummy tweet open tweet back to settungs into display enabeld dynamic and boom | 19:15 |
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| Nokius | why I had stop recording :( | 19:16 |
| coderus | Nokius: got it, thanks :) | 19:16 |
| coderus | reproduced | 19:16 |
| Nokius | awesome ! | 19:17 |
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| Nokius | i can't | 19:20 |
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| Nokius | got a glitch | 19:24 |
| coderus | jsut set code to numeric and then set to alphanumeric, go back, open devicelock again. | 19:24 |
| Nokius | coderus: has noting to do with your patch its a devielock keyboard one | 19:26 |
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| Nokius | coderus: looks like the maliit keyboard has the swipe down gesture when screen is locked | 19:29 |
| coderus | Nokius: i can't disable keyboard when locked | 19:30 |
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| Nokius | will show u the glitch | 19:31 |
| Nokius | give me a sec | 19:31 |
| Nokius | coderus: but it s for the sailors | 19:31 |
| Nokius | vid is not so good due to bad ambiance | 19:34 |
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| appd | does anyone know if it's possible to develop sailfish silica apps entirely with C++, and not QML? | 19:40 |
| Nokius | coderus: :) | 19:40 |
| Yaniel | appd: yes | 19:40 |
| Yaniel | for example if you use SDL2 | 19:40 |
| appd | will it have the silica look and feel? | 19:41 |
| Yaniel | no | 19:42 |
| Yaniel | yeah silica apps, no | 19:42 |
| Nokius | coderus: will add it to tjc | 19:42 |
| Yaniel | since silica is by definition qml | 19:42 |
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| Nokius | coderus: but a nice way to lock out your self (when device is in the pocket) | 19:44 |
| appd | so it looks that QML can't be avoided when making an app with built-in UI | 19:45 |
| Yaniel | so far, yes | 19:45 |
| Yaniel | I don't think that is going to change anytime soon | 19:45 |
| Yaniel | but that shouldn't be much of a problem | 19:45 |
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| Yaniel | and for games you'll be mostly using GLES or SDL2 and custom GUI stuff anyway | 19:46 |
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| Nokius | coderus: ping | 19:47 |
| appd | yes. i'll probably work with SDL2 until there's an alternative to QML | 19:48 |
| appd | thanks | 19:49 |
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| coderus | Nokius: yeah you right. i can't understand anything from your video :) | 19:54 |
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| Nokius | damn | 19:54 |
| coderus | Nokius: when proximity is covered touch events are not produced | 19:55 |
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| Nokius | coderus: yeah the annoying time check feature :P | 19:58 |
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| Nokius | coderus: did you get the last reproduction fixed? | 20:14 |
| expr- | what's the current status for the 1.1.1.26 update? my phone is offering it for download, although I heard it got pulled | 20:15 |
| Nokius | expr-: is it 1.1.1.26 or 1.1.1.27? | 20:15 |
| expr- | 1.1.1.26 (I haven't signed into any "early" programs) | 20:16 |
| Hartzi | .27 is the latest | 20:16 |
| Tegu | expr-: are you one of "the first ones"? | 20:17 |
| expr- | yes | 20:18 |
| Tegu | that's why :) | 20:18 |
| expr- | assuming that means the ones who got "LE TOH" and all | 20:18 |
| Nokius | coderus:? | 20:18 |
| Nokius | is your gf Jolla on u9 or u8? | 20:19 |
| r0kk3rz | first ones got letoh? | 20:19 |
| r0kk3rz | i thought they only got the orange firstones toh | 20:19 |
| expr- | IIRC limited edition the other half that reads "the first one" | 20:19 |
| r0kk3rz | le = limited edition, not le = light emitting | 20:19 |
| r0kk3rz | i see now | 20:19 |
| Tegu | I thought LE as in french(? like "the" or something) | 20:20 |
| Yaniel | le TOH | 20:20 |
| expr- | that's what came to my mind when I first read it (while back when you ordered it); it sounded funny :x | 20:21 |
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| Nokius | coderus: ? | 20:23 |
| pketolai | expr-: which version are you currently on? | 20:23 |
| expr- | tahkalampi | 20:24 |
| expr- | (or 1.0.8.21) | 20:24 |
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| pketolai | then reboot and recheck for updates should show 1.1.1.27 | 20:25 |
| expr- | the phone just informed me of 1.1.1.27 | 20:25 |
| pketolai | ok, then it's fine | 20:25 |
| Nokius | expr-: still on u8? | 20:25 |
| Nokius | expr-: or did you just select update?? | 20:26 |
| expr- | u8? If that means tahkalampi, then yes | 20:26 |
| expr- | I haven't updated manually in a while | 20:26 |
| expr- | But I tend to update when the phone says so | 20:26 |
| Nokius | expr-: can u do me a favor? | 20:26 |
| expr- | ? | 20:26 |
| TemeV | people really should start speaking with version numbers or names | 20:27 |
| TemeV | updatenumbers are confusing | 20:27 |
| Yaniel | I don't think so | 20:27 |
| expr- | they're confusing the first time :x | 20:27 |
| TemeV | why do we need three names for an os version :) | 20:27 |
| Nokius | expr-: do u use a device lock? | 20:28 |
| Yaniel | yes it is redundant | 20:28 |
| Yaniel | but uN is way shorter than version number or name :D | 20:28 |
| expr- | Nokius: do you mean a lock code? | 20:28 |
| Nokius | expr-: yes | 20:28 |
| expr- | yes | 20:28 |
| expr- | (although I have to wait for a while for it to activate) | 20:28 |
| TemeV | well, you could refer it with first letter of the name. Its short and still unique :) | 20:29 |
| TemeV | And also gives the sequence | 20:29 |
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| Nokius | expr-: if you wanted immediately after powerkey press or swipe down set no delay in devicelock option in settings | 20:30 |
| expr- | yes, I know – I don't | 20:30 |
| expr- | although I really wished the swipe down would lock it, so I could have it both ways | 20:31 |
| Tegu | :O just noticed that the version names are alphabetically sorted | 20:31 |
| Tegu | now that you mentioned about a sequence | 20:31 |
| Nokius | exper: can you enable it just for a test thanks | 20:31 |
| coderus | Nokius: no | 20:31 |
| coderus | i can't get it fixed | 20:31 |
| expr- | sure | 20:31 |
| Tegu | Q is skipped (because, well, there probably aren't finnish lakes that start with Q :P) | 20:31 |
| Nokius | expr-: can you close the camera app if its open and lock the device after this thanks | 20:32 |
| expr- | I could name one (ok, it's more of a pond :x) | 20:32 |
| expr- | Nokius: ok, wait a bit | 20:32 |
| Nokius | expr-: no prob | 20:32 |
| tigeli | Tegu: there is Kuujärvi which we could make as Qjärvi :D | 20:32 |
| expr- | Nokius: and? | 20:32 |
| pketolai | double pressing the power key turns on the lock directly ;) | 20:32 |
| expr- | pketolai: thanks | 20:33 |
| Nokius | coderus: just wondering if i found some new behaver in 1.1.1.26 / 1.1.1.27 | 20:33 |
| Tegu | tigeli: hehe. hm, let's check järviwiki to see if there are any W lakes | 20:33 |
| Nokius | pketolai: but since 1.1.1.26 | 20:33 |
| Nokius | expr-: ready? | 20:34 |
| expr- | yes | 20:34 |
| pketolai | Nokius: true | 20:34 |
| Nokius | expr-: so camera app is cloesed and device want now the code? | 20:34 |
| expr- | yes | 20:35 |
| Nokius | expr-: okay | 20:35 |
| Nokius | expr-: please pull down and select camera (hope u did not removed it) and than don't tip in the code just swipe down again | 20:36 |
| Tegu | hum, no W lakes, it seems :( next letter is Y | 20:36 |
| Nokius | expr-: now you see again the lock screen right? | 20:37 |
| expr- | I can't access the camera now | 20:37 |
| Nokius | corect! | 20:37 |
| Nokius | now unlock | 20:37 |
| Nokius | please | 20:37 |
| Nokius | and is the camera app open? | 20:37 |
| Nokius | is the camera cover in the mutitasking view? | 20:37 |
| expr- | nope; what I mean I can't access it – it's grayed out (as are most of the functions in the pulley menu when the phone is locked) | 20:38 |
| Nokius | expr-: okay Thanks | 20:38 |
| expr- | np | 20:38 |
| Nokius | coderus: ^ see not sure if its a feature :P | 20:38 |
| Nokius | in 1.1.1.26 / 1.1.1.27 or a bug | 20:39 |
| Nokius | expr-: Thanks for your help enjoy 1.1.1.27 :P | 20:39 |
| Nokius | coderus: your u geting my point | 20:40 |
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| Nokius | coderus: ? | 20:48 |
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| coderus | Nokius: sure :) | 20:50 |
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| Nokius | coderus: a feature? nope if u select it accidently when device is locked camera is active | 20:52 |
| Nokius | this is not a feature! | 20:53 |
| Nokius | btw it happen with settings and other apps use well | 20:53 |
| flux | second day in a row my phone ends the night at 0% battery with u10.. maybe it's a coincidence ;) | 20:53 |
| flux | oops, I intended to complain on #jm, oh well 8-) | 20:54 |
| expr- | yes, the phone seems to open any app in question without correct code | 20:58 |
| expr- | I'm personally not too worried, assuming the camera enters a sleep mode when in background (at least N9 did) | 20:59 |
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| Nokius | expr-: before u10 (1.1.1.26 1.1.1.27) ? | 20:59 |
| expr- | Nokius: nope; after update | 20:59 |
| Nokius | expr-: oaky | 21:00 |
| expr- | (I'm also not too worried about accidentally selecting any pulley features – if I were, I would have to reconsider my "device reset limit" for incorrect codes) | 21:00 |
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| expr- | now that I though about it; is there yet a way to back-up and restore settings on the phone? | 21:01 |
| Nokius | ^^ | 21:01 |
| ulvus | Hi. | 21:02 |
| Nokius | will put it on tjc | 21:03 |
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| coderus | Jonni: ping | 21:06 |
| coderus | any chance devicelock bug caused by your encpartition anti-bruteforce slowdown fix? | 21:06 |
| coderus | seemd devicelock settings are under encpartition control | 21:06 |
| coderus | and when we change options freauently it doesn't respond | 21:07 |
| coderus | and then - BOOM! | 21:07 |
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| coderus | sailors ^ | 21:08 |
| coderus | i have added a simple button in devicelock.qml: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9573434 | 21:09 |
| coderus | and output is funny: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9573440 | 21:10 |
| coderus | Jonni: how much slowdown you added? | 21:10 |
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| Nokius | is Jolla adding a label now to Bug reports on tjc if they added it to the bug tracker? | 21:16 |
| Jonni | coderus: its a seperate thing, I have already fix available internally, but it takes some time to go through testing etc, so hotfix just disables the feature untill real fix has been tested. | 21:17 |
| expr- | feature-request: please sign the sdk releases | 21:17 |
| coderus | Jonni: i understand, but what the reason of such behaviour? | 21:17 |
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| Jonni | coderus: its a race issue on QSettings if multiple processes are writing to same key simulteneously. | 21:18 |
| coderus | i see now: after some changes values can't be changed again during some seconds | 21:18 |
| expr- | I actually checked it yesterday, it seems that Windows releases aren't signed either (which I guess is fair); but I resent downloading unsigned binaries over unsecure connection, even though I don't believe my ISP is messing with my connection | 21:18 |
| coderus | Jonni: multiple processes? QSettings? isn't lockSettings are under encpartition plugin? | 21:18 |
| Jonni | coderus: yes and encpartition uses QSettings internally. | 21:19 |
| Nokius | expr-: U had which version before u updated? | 21:19 |
| coderus | ah, okay then | 21:19 |
| expr- | I don't it's much to ask for an official PGP key and signed binaries | 21:19 |
| coderus | Jonni: understood | 21:19 |
| expr- | Nokius? | 21:19 |
| coderus | i had a lot of problems with qsettings | 21:19 |
| coderus | and i dropped using it in my projects :D | 21:19 |
| Nokius | expr-: SFOS Version | 21:19 |
| Nokius | expr-: I see 1.0.8.21 | 21:20 |
| coderus | we need qt 5.4 and QSaveFile :) | 21:20 |
| coderus | or whatever it name used to fix qsettings problem in qt :) | 21:20 |
| expr- | isn't it in 5.3 already? | 21:21 |
| coderus | yes probably i mistyped 5.4 and QSaveFile both | 21:21 |
| coderus | but fix isn't in qt5.2 | 21:21 |
| Nokius | expr-: looks like the its since SFOS Version 1.1.0.39 https://together.jolla.com/question/61134/bug-uitukka-11039-app-starts-before-lockcode-if-selected-as-pulley-menu-shortcut/ | 21:22 |
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| Nokius | coderus: if you need someone for a test ping me | 21:41 |
| Nokius | gn8 | 21:41 |
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