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| Juuba | hmmh | 06:38 |
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| Juuba | my "People" app is empty (contact list) | 06:38 |
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| Juuba | restart fixed it | 06:43 |
| Juuba | but... https://gist.github.com/juuba/8ce4c262fd30f687cac7 | 06:44 |
| Juuba | sync fail messages in logs? | 06:45 |
| Juuba | dunno, maybe i have those options "disabled" in settings, the xml files are 0 bytes | 06:49 |
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| Armadillo | delete those files | 06:51 |
| Armadillo | I had the same issue two times already | 06:51 |
| Armadillo | with three mail accounts each time | 06:51 |
| Armadillo | this likely happens if the account app is writing the account details and the app is terminated | 06:52 |
| Armadillo | it was said that this is a known bug, dunno if this will be fixed or not | 06:52 |
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| daitheflu | Hi :) | 09:10 |
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| hoodlum | Hi | 09:13 |
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| Juuba | Armadillo: ok, thanks | 09:17 |
| Juuba | installing Uitukka now... *shiver* | 09:18 |
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| Juuba | also did a "reset" to zeroize the status again | 09:18 |
| Juuba | who knows what odds and ends I had loose on the system :D | 09:18 |
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| Juuba | question: if i already have a btrfs card ready, I can skip the steps 1-14 on https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/ | 09:25 |
| Juuba | ? | 09:25 |
| Juuba | or | 09:25 |
| Juuba | yeah, just disable the serviec, create the mount sdcard service, and enable it | 09:25 |
| Juuba | i think... | 09:25 |
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| oku | cpm | 10:39 |
| oku | damn fingrterm... | 10:41 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 11:40 |
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| cos- | how often does the google account update the calendar or is it broken? | 11:47 |
| cos- | yesterday i moved an event to another date, and i noticed it's still on old date in jolla | 11:47 |
| cos- | there is no feedback if it has updated it successfully and when | 11:48 |
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| leszek | cos-: yeah it syncs in the background. It will sync with the settings set for it in the account settings. And no there is no notification of a successful sync | 11:50 |
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| sandsmark | any notification for failed sync? | 11:55 |
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| kimmoli | advertisement: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | 4k eur already? not bad | 12:06 |
| ernesti | 4,5 | 12:07 |
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| ernesti | goal is a bit high though | 12:08 |
| cos- | kimmoli: backed. | 12:08 |
| Nicd- | ernesti: good quality manufacturing is not cheap | 12:09 |
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| ernesti | Nicd- nod | 12:09 |
| oku | 6500 and counting :) | 12:10 |
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| Hartzi | whuuu | 12:16 |
| sandsmark | heh, growing fast | 12:25 |
| sandsmark | 11k | 12:25 |
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| sandsmark | 12k :D | 12:27 |
| oku | 12k already :) | 12:27 |
| sandsmark | this might actually get funded, awesome | 12:27 |
| oku | I see quite a big demand for proper smartphone keyboard there :D | 12:27 |
| sandsmark | indeed | 12:28 |
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| sandsmark | too bad most manufacturers don't see that | 12:28 |
| lbt | bespoke hardware costs - I am so impressed! (me + wife are getting one each - so go help fund them 'cos I want my tohkbd) | 12:28 |
| sandsmark | thank $DEITY for crowdfunding and an open enough HW platform that this is possible :p | 12:28 |
| leinir | don't forget, too, that it's an actual innovative product... people are constantly worried about mechanical keyboards and the mechanism failing but this is seriously clever, there's no slider to break, and if the keyboard snaps off... you just snap it back on again, no harm done... and you still get to have your super sleek jolla, without the keyboard bulk, if you want to show it off :) | 12:29 |
| sandsmark | indeed | 12:30 |
| leinir | and then when you get to showing /that/ bit off, to people who want a keyboard, you just whip it out, snap it on, and then those people go "ooooh..." and want it even more :D | 12:30 |
| oku | leinir: that's true. It has fixed many of the drawbacks in most physical keyboards. | 12:30 |
| oku | usually the mechanics are overly complicated and tend to break | 12:30 |
| leinir | i can totally see someone on stage going "Oh, just one more thing *dig into pocket, snap keyboard on phone, roaring applause*" ;) | 12:30 |
| sandsmark | http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla/ | 12:31 |
| sandsmark | I don't know how accurate that is, but it says trending towards 200k :p | 12:31 |
| sandsmark | but I guess it doesn't take into account that there's a limited amount of jolla owners | 12:31 |
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| leinir | when operating with this narrow a data set, you can't really count on it ;) | 12:32 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 12:32 |
| sandsmark | I tried that to try to get a graph to see the speed of pledges | 12:32 |
| sandsmark | but the graph is stupid | 12:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | nicely timed with the 100e voucher from Jolla | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | might get some people (n9 owners) over the line for both | 13:00 |
| Nicd- | r0kk3rz: notice all backers that order a fully assembled tohkbd will also get a 100 € discount | 13:01 |
| Nicd- | for a jolla phone I mean | 13:01 |
| r0kk3rz | oh i didnt spot that | 13:01 |
| r0kk3rz | thats aweome | 13:01 |
| Nicd- | so if someone is thinking of buying a jolla, now they can get the keyboard almost for free | 13:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | nice of Jolla to do that | 13:06 |
| r0kk3rz | question is, do I really want one, hmmmmmmm | 13:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | guess ive got a few days to decide | 13:08 |
| kysse | indeed. It's so looong time to wait (Apr 2015) | 13:08 |
| kysse | to get tohkbd :C | 13:08 |
| r0kk3rz | thats not that far away | 13:09 |
| r0kk3rz | if dirk can get it done sooner, then he will | 13:10 |
| r0kk3rz | april is a conservative estimate | 13:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | might be a good excuse to go back to nederlands and join the assembly line | 13:17 |
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| sandsmark | over half-way there already | 14:07 |
| sandsmark | kicktraq has gone crazy, it says it's trending towards 870k :p | 14:08 |
| tbr | "riiiiiight" | 14:08 |
| stephg | haha | 14:08 |
| sandsmark | tbr: what, you don't trust extremely simple linear estimates :p | 14:09 |
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| tbr | sandsmark: those are the most reliable ones, right? I think Mr. Ponzi used them too and look how successful he was! | 14:10 |
| sandsmark | haha, true! | 14:10 |
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| FireFly | r0kk3rz: estimates are hard, I'm counting on late spring next year and hoping to be pleasantly surprised instead | 14:40 |
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| sledges | PSA: sailfishos community meeting @ #mer-meeting . agenda: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ | 14:59 |
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| sledges | kimmoli (taking out of #mer-meeting): me is doing spring-cleaning in me room this very time | 15:22 |
| kimmoli | sledges: spring = "a resilient device, typically a helical metal coil, that can be pressed or pulled but returns to its former shape when released, used chiefly to exert constant tension or absorb movement." | 15:24 |
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| kimmoli | i do that usually, stuff stuf to boxes etc and they hust spring back... | 15:24 |
| sledges | http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/finally..spring-is-just-around-the-corner.jpg | 15:24 |
| Armadillo | lol :D | 15:24 |
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| B-ZaR | Hi, I'm porting a simple game I've made in QtQuick2 to sailfish using the SDK. My game requires qt5-qtgraphicaleffects installed. I installed the package to the emulator's virtual machine to try it out, but I'm getting 'module "QtGraphicalEffects" is not installed' when trying to run the game in the emulator. Any ideas what I should try or read to overcome this? | 15:58 |
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| SK_work | hi B-ZaR | 16:01 |
| SK_work | can you ssh into your emulatopr ? | 16:01 |
| B-ZaR | yes | 16:01 |
| SK_work | then please be sure that /usr/lib/qt5/qml/ contains QtGraphicalEffects | 16:02 |
| B-ZaR | like so, right? ssh -p 2223 -i ~/Programs/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/SailfishOS_Emulator/root root@localhost | 16:02 |
| B-ZaR | SK_work: it doesn't. the SDK shows it as installed though? | 16:02 |
| SK_work | haha | 16:02 |
| SK_work | you installed it through SDK | 16:03 |
| SK_work | SDK installs it inside the "build" virtual machine | 16:03 |
| B-ZaR | oh | 16:03 |
| SK_work | and that's good emulator throws you this error | 16:03 |
| SK_work | your spec file is not updated | 16:03 |
| SK_work | please put a depends inside your spec file | 16:03 |
| SK_work | (or better, yaml file) | 16:03 |
| B-ZaR | Requires: qt5-qtgraphicaleffects | 16:03 |
| SK_work | B-ZaR: exactly | 16:03 |
| B-ZaR | it's already ther | 16:03 |
| B-ZaR | same as in yaml | 16:04 |
| SK_work | the emulator /should/ auto-install it | 16:04 |
| SK_work | B-ZaR: hum ... typo ? | 16:04 |
| SK_work | no | 16:04 |
| SK_work | ok then | 16:04 |
| SK_work | inside emulator as root, "zypper in qt5-qtgraphicaleffects" | 16:04 |
| B-ZaR | -bash: zypper: command not found | 16:04 |
| SK_work | B-ZaR: pkcon install qt5-qtgraphicaleffects | 16:05 |
| dpurgin | it's still pkcon in emulator | 16:05 |
| B-ZaR | okay, got ahead :) | 16:05 |
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| B-ZaR | the next issues are with my application. I'll get back if I bump into other system problems. Thanks! | 16:05 |
| SK_work | B-ZaR: it should work after that | 16:05 |
| SK_work | wonder why the emulator don't autoinstall the required packages :/ | 16:06 |
| B-ZaR | good question | 16:06 |
| dpurgin | moreover, the build engine installs build dependencies from spec automatically | 16:06 |
| B-ZaR | but that should be buildrequires tehn? | 16:06 |
| dpurgin | yes | 16:06 |
| B-ZaR | but it's a runtime dep | 16:06 |
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| dpurgin | sorry, missed that, you stick with Requires then :) | 16:07 |
| B-ZaR | :) | 16:07 |
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| SK_work | dpurgin: the build engine installs but emulator don't install requires ? | 16:10 |
| SK_work | weired | 16:10 |
| dpurgin | dunno, worked for me :) maybe it was rpm generation issue, it happens to SDK from time to time | 16:14 |
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| sandsmark | whoo, less than 5k to go | 18:08 |
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| tbr | all in a day's work ;) | 18:12 |
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| sandsmark | impressive how fast it went | 18:17 |
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| coderus | zram is kernel module, right? and zram in openrepos doesnt fir u9 kernel? | 18:27 |
| coderus | doesn't fir* | 18:27 |
| Morpog_PC__ | coderus, I heard Stskeeps started to play with zram, so we may get it in a future update by default | 18:28 |
| Shinryuu | :) | 18:29 |
| Shinryuu | no wonder I had zream depedency issues | 18:29 |
| Shinryuu | so I removed it | 18:29 |
| coderus | main question is: where u9 kernel sources? ;) | 18:31 |
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| Stskeeps | in my backlog, it seems | 18:32 |
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| sandsmark | 2k to go \o/ | 18:36 |
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| Shinryuu | sick | 18:37 |
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| Stskeeps | 1k | 18:43 |
| Shinryuu | damn | 18:43 |
| Shinryuu | damn | 18:43 |
| Nicd- | party at dirk's house | 18:43 |
| Shinryuu | noo | 18:44 |
| kysse | yeeeees | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | 0.5k | 18:45 |
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| FireFly | -0.3k :p | 18:54 |
| sandsmark | whoo | 18:54 |
| SK_work | :D | 18:54 |
| sandsmark | this is awesome | 18:54 |
| SK_work | let's see to where it goes now | 18:54 |
| SK_work | 60k ?75k ? | 18:54 |
| Morpog_PC__ | next goal: injection mold | 18:55 |
| sandsmark | 1.5 million? | 18:55 |
| sandsmark | http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla/ | 18:55 |
| sandsmark | :p | 18:55 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | kimmoli, why no thread about TOHKBD kickstarter project on TJC? | 19:09 |
| Morpog_PC__ | could gather some more backers | 19:09 |
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| Sail0r | https://together.jolla.com/question/61388/will-jolla-support-the-kickstarter-project-tohkbd/ | 19:10 |
| tadzik | https://together.jolla.com/question/389/keyboard-other-half/ it's here too | 19:10 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | a dedicated thread of course :D | 19:11 |
| r0kk3rz | moar tjc threads | 19:12 |
| Morpog_PC__ | the moar the bettar :D | 19:13 |
| coderus | now jolla winn need to make u10 or u11 with disabled vkb when TOHKBD is active ;) | 19:17 |
| coderus | will need* | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | isn't the vkb disabled in sdk anyhow? | 19:17 |
| Morpog_PC__ | nope | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | nevertheless, not the most hard thing to fix | 19:18 |
| Morpog_PC__ | when you're at it fix the frambuffer rotation for N9 too :D | 19:19 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm busy getting grey hair in memory optimization | 19:22 |
| Morpog_PC__ | :D | 19:23 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC__: lol :D | 19:25 |
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| * kimmoli is confuscated | 19:52 | |
| Stskeeps | kimmoli: congrats | 19:53 |
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| kimmoli | tnx | 19:54 |
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| kimmoli | i was afk and it was kinda suprice when came back online.. | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | a bit? | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:55 |
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| * lpotter is not surprised a bit | 20:12 | |
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| r0kk3rz | surprised a lot? | 20:14 |
| Nicd- | hmm, how can I use the ball from TextSwitch? | 20:14 |
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| kimmoli | ? | 20:15 |
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| Nicd- | or the ball that's used to show the pagestack | 20:16 |
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| kimmoli | isnt it GlassItem | 20:16 |
| kimmoli | iirc see EffectPage.qml | 20:16 |
| Nicd- | seems to be, Qt Creator says it can't find it | 20:16 |
| kimmoli | or it just underscores it with red? | 20:17 |
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| Nicd- | yeah and complains "Unknown component"... should I just ignore that? | 20:18 |
| Nicd- | well, Qt Creator does also hate TextFields | 20:18 |
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| Nicd- | hmm, the GlassItem seems to be too high or somehow else aligns vertically completely differently than all of my other content (in a Row) | 20:30 |
| Nicd- | and setting width for it doesn't seem to do anything | 20:31 |
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| Nicd- | scratch that last line, that was just my own fail | 20:34 |
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| Nicd- | progress! https://plus.google.com/+MikkoAhlroth/posts/GuhMqCj83uF | 21:14 |
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| Nicd- | Hey, what has changed in the desktop files in U9? | 21:20 |
| Nicd- | My app no longer starts from the icon in app grid | 21:21 |
| Morpog_PC__ | not sure if that indicators should be used there | 21:26 |
| Morpog_PC__ | looks kinda strange | 21:26 |
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| FireFly | I agree. Perhaps highlighting the names using the ambience colour would be a better idea | 21:32 |
| FireFly | IIRC communi does that with its sidebar | 21:32 |
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| Nicd- | Morpog_PC__: all comments are welcome :) I'll probably go with that to get some alpha version out, it can be changed later | 22:11 |
| Nicd- | you could file an issue for it so I'll remember to take a look at it later | 22:11 |
| cos- | 71k€ on tohkbd.. not bad. | 22:12 |
| kengu | i was judging that jolla will be "obsolete" at the time when tohkbd is available but with tohkbd it will be then "reusable" for other purposes | 22:13 |
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| M4rtinK | I can see people actually buying Jolla for tohkbd :) | 22:27 |
| tadzik | wow | 22:27 |
| kengu | M4rtinK: yeah | 22:28 |
| Eztran | That voucher might help for that. | 22:28 |
| M4rtinK | there are still quite lot of people using the N900 | 22:28 |
| M4rtinK | not only due to the keyboard, but it is a big factor | 22:29 |
| M4rtinK | just met another N900 user this weekend on a conference | 22:29 |
| M4rtinK | and I know about at least 2 other people still using the N900 full time | 22:29 |
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| kengu | i was using n900 and I would still be if the microusb was better | 22:35 |
| kengu | I didn't like the fact that I needed two. one to charge and other one in use | 22:36 |
| kengu | as the other had broken sim slot | 22:36 |
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| ParkerR | dear god those magnets | 23:03 |
| ParkerR | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla | 23:03 |
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| M4rtinK | fucking magnets, how do they work ? :) | 23:04 |
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| brunelli | M4rtinK: http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/jeskj/eli5_magnets_how_do_they_work/ | 23:11 |
| brunelli | Just kidding xD | 23:11 |
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| lpotter | magnets work by contaiing magic | 23:24 |
| lpotter | containing, even | 23:26 |
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