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| tortoisedoc | Update?? :D:D | 05:12 |
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| cjbayliss | what is the best tutorial to install sailfish on my nexus 4? I went looking for one that I used previously, but couldn't find it. | 05:14 |
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| tbr | cjbayliss: the official instructions, people repost the latest email all over the place | 05:22 |
| cjbayliss | tbr: Yeas, I looking for the official instructions. Not the ones people post everywhere. :) | 05:23 |
| cjbayliss | *yes | 05:23 |
| tbr | cjbayliss: it's an email. so you will only find it reposted. I pastebinned it with 1 day expiry here: http://pastebin.com/ysEfH88k | 05:25 |
| cjbayliss | tbr: ok, thank you. | 05:26 |
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| cameris | morning | 05:50 |
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| cjbayliss | how can I setup duckduckgo as my default search engine? | 06:51 |
| cameris | cjbayliss: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92129 | 06:56 |
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| cjbayliss | cameris: thank you. | 06:58 |
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| cos- | now i saw a weird bug: | 07:10 |
| cos- | received an sms, started replying to it but vkb disappeared and reappeared a few times during it. i sent it, but the message didn't go to the list and i still don't know if it was sent. | 07:10 |
| cos- | after this i rebooted the phone and checkd the messaging.. the whole discussion is gone. | 07:11 |
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| Stskeeps | out of space? | 07:11 |
| cos- | actually, i found the contacts messages down in the list, not in the top where new ones should go. | 07:12 |
| cos- | no full filesystems on device. /home is at 74%. | 07:14 |
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| cos- | i don't know if this is worth togethering as i can't repeat it and there's no useful technical data.. | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | journal? | 07:15 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 07:20 |
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| cjbayliss | if I'm root and I change the root password with 'passwd root' will it matter? I mean does Sailfish OS rely on a certain password? | 07:23 |
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| cameris | cjbayliss: you can change it. beside passwd you can also change it in the developer mode settings | 07:26 |
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| cjbayliss | cameris: ok, I changed it in the developer settings but when I used 'su' it did not work. | 07:28 |
| zGrr | Do you know of any project trying to port Mer/Nemo to Raspberry Pi? | 07:28 |
| cameris | cjbayliss: maybe you have to enable the developer mode. | 07:28 |
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| cjbayliss | cjbayliss: yep, I had already done that. I also had rebooted. | 07:29 |
| * cjbayliss shrugs | 07:29 | |
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| cjbayliss | 'passwd root' worked. | 07:30 |
| cjbayliss | I love how Sailfish OS is linux. | 07:31 |
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| cjbayliss | zGrr: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi | 07:32 |
| zGrr | cjbayliss: thanks. | 07:33 |
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| stephg | happy (hungover) friday everyone | 07:49 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 07:49 |
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| SK_work | morning everybody | 07:55 |
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| SK_work | stephg: Oo | 08:17 |
| SK_work | that's gonna be productive | 08:17 |
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| Vi- | hi | 08:19 |
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| coderus | cjbayliss: why using su? | 09:43 |
| coderus | there is devel-su gaining root access after enetering developer mode password | 09:43 |
| coderus | RTFM | 09:44 |
| cameris | Oo, I have set su too. | 09:44 |
| oh8gnz | manuals must only be read when smoke is coming from device.. not ever before.. ,) | 09:45 |
| tbr | oh8gnz: in case of a HF-PA that happens faster than you can forget to tune up. ;-) | 09:49 |
| cjbayliss | coderus: I did RTFM. And before I asked in here. I wanted to use su because in 4 months time when I need to gain root I'll have forgotten about 'devel-su'. | 09:53 |
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| coderus | :D | 09:54 |
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| cjbayliss | :) | 09:54 |
| coderus | you can install sudo then and have fun with sudoers :) | 09:54 |
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| cjbayliss | coderus: do you use this repo to do that? http://sailfish.openrepos.net/NielDK/ | 09:58 |
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| tortoisedoc | sudosudo update! :D | 10:02 |
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| tadzik | is it there? | 10:03 |
| tadzik | I also can't english | 10:03 |
| coderus | cjbayliss: yes installed bash and sudo from nieldk | 10:07 |
| cjbayliss | coderus: ok, cool | 10:08 |
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| cos- | VDVsx: would you be interested in debian packaging fixed for Qt5/ubuntu in libqtsparql? | 11:09 |
| cos- | (sorry, wrong channel) | 11:09 |
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| nazanin | tortoisedoc: haven't fixed the issue with 'Hide settings' button when you submitted an update? | 11:55 |
| tortoisedoc | nazinin : yes? | 11:55 |
| tortoisedoc | in the latest update | 11:55 |
| tortoisedoc | it should be fixed | 11:55 |
| tortoisedoc | it was skipping lockscreen activation | 11:55 |
| tortoisedoc | so pressing button was actually not doing anything | 11:55 |
| tortoisedoc | still not working? | 11:56 |
| tortoisedoc | fuuuck | 11:56 |
| tortoisedoc | :[ | 11:56 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: when I tap on hide settings, nothing happens | 11:56 |
| tortoisedoc | sorry ^^; | 11:56 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 11:56 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: close quickbar works fine, like always | 11:56 |
| nazanin | is it also reproducible for you? | 11:56 |
| tortoisedoc | it works fine if you do not lock the screen while the settings page is open it seems | 11:57 |
| tortoisedoc | yes | 11:57 |
| tortoisedoc | just tried now | 11:57 |
| tortoisedoc | but | 11:57 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 11:57 |
| tortoisedoc | weird | 11:57 |
| tortoisedoc | need to have a look at this later today | 11:57 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: I'll try on some other devices, and if I couldn't get it to work, I'll reject it :) | 11:58 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : ok, thanks | 11:58 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 11:58 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: no prob :D | 11:58 |
| tortoisedoc | this is NOT a stockholm syndrome btw :P | 11:58 |
| tortoisedoc | yes | 11:58 |
| nazanin | owww | 11:58 |
| tortoisedoc | it seems if you lock the screen when settings is open, upon unlocking the hide settings is not working | 11:59 |
| tortoisedoc | crap | 11:59 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: I didn't lock it...on my first attempt after installing the app, I opened the settings page and then the hide settings didn't work | 12:00 |
| nazanin | the only way to get out of the app, was to close it | 12:00 |
| r0kk3rz | hmm, anyone familiar with how the qsensor backend works on the jolla? | 12:00 |
| r0kk3rz | ie. http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/dynamic-sensor-backend-registration.html | 12:01 |
| r0kk3rz | but that page is 5.3, not sure if it exists in 5.2 | 12:01 |
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| SK_work | lpotter: ^ | 12:34 |
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| nazanin | tortoisedoc: can you check one thing for me, take out the battery and tell me is it 'CE+a number' written on the device? | 13:15 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : on my device? | 13:16 |
| nazanin | yup, on the device you test the app | 13:16 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: because you said it worked for you | 13:16 |
| tortoisedoc | one sec | 13:16 |
| tortoisedoc | may i know why its relevant? | 13:16 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: I have tested the app on different devices, on some it works and on some it doesn't | 13:17 |
| nazanin | so wanna consider all the possibilities | 13:17 |
| tortoisedoc | yes | 13:17 |
| tortoisedoc | CE -> european community certification label | 13:17 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 13:17 |
| nazanin | yup | 13:18 |
| tortoisedoc | its written on top | 13:18 |
| tortoisedoc | its one of the 400 | 13:18 |
| tortoisedoc | first ones | 13:18 |
| nazanin | thanks for checking... I need to reject the app for now, as I could get it to work on only a few devices | 13:18 |
| nazanin | on most of the devices it didn't work | 13:18 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 13:18 |
| tortoisedoc | do you believe this is something I can fix on the sw side=? | 13:18 |
| tortoisedoc | or is it something that has always been there and will always be for these devices? | 13:19 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: I've been testing your app with only one device since day 1 that you submitted it and I didn't have a problem with the 'Hide Setting' option up until the time you added the 'Show Quickbar on Lockscreen' option to the settings page | 13:19 |
| nazanin | so my guess is the problem is on sw side | 13:20 |
| tortoisedoc | ok | 13:20 |
| tortoisedoc | thanks, I will double check | 13:20 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: thanks :) | 13:21 |
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| tortoisedoc | nazanin : it is interesting tho, it happens only on certain devices | 13:32 |
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| nazanin | tortoisedoc: certain in what way? | 13:33 |
| tortoisedoc | frm here | 13:33 |
| tortoisedoc | <nazanin> thanks for checking... I need to reject the app for now, as I could get it to work on only a few devices | 13:33 |
| tortoisedoc | i understood it happens only on some devices | 13:34 |
| tortoisedoc | (sorry poor english) | 13:34 |
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| nazanin | tortoisedoc: oh, that! yes, but I couldn't find any specific relation between those devices... something which is unique in all those devices that cannot run the app | 13:35 |
| nazanin | or the other way | 13:36 |
| tortoisedoc | is the sw release the same? | 13:36 |
| nazanin | yup | 13:36 |
| tortoisedoc | interesting | 13:36 |
| tortoisedoc | and on devices where it works, it never failed? | 13:37 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: at least every time I tried the hide settings option, it worked | 13:37 |
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| tortoisedoc | can you try | 13:38 |
| tortoisedoc | on a device where it worked | 13:38 |
| tortoisedoc | to start quickbar | 13:38 |
| tortoisedoc | lock the screen | 13:38 |
| tortoisedoc | unlock | 13:38 |
| tortoisedoc | and see if "hide settings" work? | 13:38 |
| tortoisedoc | for me that fails 100% | 13:38 |
| * nazanin is checking | 13:39 | |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: same as yours... | 13:39 |
| nazanin | but if I don't lock the screen, it works | 13:40 |
| tortoisedoc | and on the other set of devices | 13:41 |
| tortoisedoc | it does not work even without locking the screen, correct? | 13:41 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: yes | 13:42 |
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| tortoisedoc | ok | 13:45 |
| tortoisedoc | interesting | 13:45 |
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| tortoisedoc | nazanin : do other apps suffer from the same issue ? | 13:52 |
| tortoisedoc | (in the same area of the screen than the hide settings button I mean) | 13:52 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: tried that two (with Gallery), touching worked on that area of the screen | 13:53 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 13:53 |
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| stephg | ooh there's a zram package in openrepos | 14:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | does the zram feature have noticable speed up? | 17:03 |
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| coderus | r0kk3rz: speedup? | 17:33 |
| r0kk3rz | isnt the whole point of it that it has your swap partition in RAM, which is faster | 17:34 |
| coderus | its SWAP | 17:35 |
| coderus | it can't speedup essentially | 17:35 |
| coderus | swap makes system more responsive when RAM is low | 17:35 |
| coderus | thats all :) | 17:35 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 17:35 |
| r0kk3rz | but IO performance between ram and flash is a lot | 17:36 |
| r0kk3rz | so you should notice better performance when you have lots of stuff open | 17:36 |
| coderus | not performance, but responsive >.< | 17:37 |
| r0kk3rz | same thing, but i get what you mean | 17:38 |
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| locusf | ah zram, brings back memories :) | 18:02 |
| locusf | it was the bomb on n810 | 18:02 |
| locusf | then called compcache | 18:03 |
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| M4rtinK | we recently added support for zram to the Fedora installer | 18:18 |
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| M4rtinK | if you have a low amount of memory, it is enabled automatically | 18:19 |
| M4rtinK | and it works quite nicely | 18:19 |
| M4rtinK | and it lowered the minimal amount of RAM needed for installation considerably | 18:19 |
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| lpotter | r0kk3rz: yes, I am the sensors guy | 20:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | cool :) | 21:05 |
| r0kk3rz | whats the best way to write a sensor backend for jolla | 21:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | in a way that will show the sensor in the list for app developers | 21:07 |
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| lpotter | this will list the sensors: https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qsensor.html#sensorTypes | 21:13 |
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| lpotter | why that's not part of QSensorManager API, I couldn't tell you... | 21:16 |
| lpotter | would have to wait for qt6 to move that | 21:17 |
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| w00t | lpotter: ### Qt6 time :-) | 21:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah, but how to add to that sensor list? | 21:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | by say, ic2 sensor connected by toh | 21:19 |
| lpotter | look at the generic sensor plugin. registerBackend | 21:19 |
| r0kk3rz | i looked into the sensor backend stuff, but instead of baking it into an app, is there a platform way of exposing the sensor through qtsensors | 21:20 |
| lpotter | you would have to add a QTohSensor first, or hack it into QHolster :) | 21:23 |
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| lpotter | except that only provide a bool | 21:24 |
| r0kk3rz | cant use the existing types with new backend? | 21:24 |
| r0kk3rz | eg qaltimiter for an altimiter connected by toh | 21:25 |
| lpotter | ahh.. ok. | 21:25 |
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| lpotter | hmm.. | 21:26 |
| r0kk3rz | would need to be dynamically registered, but im not sure how to register it with the system, rather than an app basis | 21:26 |
| lpotter | the list isn't dynamic see /etc/xdg/QtProject/Sensors.conf | 21:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | how to add to that? | 21:30 |
| lpotter | sensors don't usually come and go | 21:30 |
| r0kk3rz | true, but qt allows for dynamically registered stuff, which seemed to make sense | 21:32 |
| lpotter | sure, but QSensors isn't set up that way at the moment. I've always hated that list | 21:33 |
| lpotter | but it allows to use more than once plugin, like the generic one if there is no rotation sensor and the like | 21:33 |
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| lpotter | one, not once | 21:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | nazanin: can you please unlock Quickbar from qa? thanks! | 21:34 |
| lpotter | you would need a root process to write to that file | 21:34 |
| r0kk3rz | mm ok, thats fine for manual install | 21:35 |
| r0kk3rz | ideally the nfc would download and install the backend/driver, and then you dont need anything special in apps, just normal qtsensors stuff unless you need a new sensor type | 21:37 |
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| lpotter | r0kk3rz: hang on... QSensorManager::setDefaultBackend | 21:39 |
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| lpotter | that doesn't persist though | 21:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | does that persist though? | 21:40 |
| r0kk3rz | ah | 21:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | lpotter: so how come your the sensor guy, even though you're in brisvegas? | 22:02 |
| lpotter | because they started out as QtMobility, and QtMobility was originally developed by Nokia is brissie | 22:03 |
| lpotter | and I was part of that team | 22:03 |
| lpotter | in brissie, even | 22:04 |
| r0kk3rz | never knew nokia had a dev team in bris | 22:06 |
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| lpotter | we started out as qtopia/qt embedded developers with Trolltech | 22:07 |
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