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| kimmoli | great wall of monday morning! | 06:22 |
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| tat | hello my ear speaker just died on me last week, i would like to try a factory restore, but i just checked if the backups are saved on my SD card, i loged in via ssh, the card isn't even mounted, by the way first time i inserted the card it had a fat fs that was overwritten by jolla | 06:42 |
| cameris | tat: backups are stored in /home/nemo/.vault afaik, not on the SD. | 06:45 |
| stephg | and there is an option to copy them to the sd card via the backup options in settings if you don't want to copy by hand | 06:46 |
| tat | is that save, isn't home being cleaned out trough reset, and is it normal that my sd card isn't mounted at all ? | 06:46 |
| stephg | tat what is it formatted as and how big is the card? | 06:46 |
| tat | it used to be formated as fat it has 8GB | 06:47 |
| stephg | just checking it's not exFAT (which won't work, hence wouldn't be mounted) | 06:48 |
| stephg | no it should mount automatically | 06:48 |
| stephg | could be it tries to but the FS needs fixing? | 06:48 |
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| tat | it didn't in fact the first time i inserted it the fs was overwritten, | 06:49 |
| tat | is there a log like syslog or dmesg | 06:49 |
| tat | that i could check on inserting the card | 06:49 |
| stephg | there may be a fsck for fat on-device, one sec | 06:50 |
| stephg | there is a fsck.vfat there yes | 06:51 |
| stephg | (probably not very smart, but worth a go) | 06:51 |
| stephg | and yes, you can see what's going on on the device at any time with dmesg (requires root) or journalctl (also requires root) | 06:51 |
| tat | well i got no fsck.vfat is that a rpm | 06:52 |
| stephg | let me find the package | 06:52 |
| stephg | pkcon install dosfstools | 06:53 |
| tat | anyway my original problem is my earpeace, it kind of died last week, it just stopped working, i have to use a headphone, or turn on the loudspeaker, really anoying, any idea if that could be hardware or software related ? | 06:54 |
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| stephg | if it does it after a reboot that sounds like hardware :( | 06:55 |
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| stephg | there are several audio tests in the csd tool, have you tried them? | 06:55 |
| tat | no, | 06:56 |
| tat | how would i go about that ? | 06:56 |
| stephg | there's a shortcode to do it from the phone app or just run 'csd' in a terminal | 06:57 |
| stephg | (I can't remember what the shortcode is) | 06:57 |
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| tat | ok tried that in fact non of the play sound things made any sound, that is strange since my loudspeker is working | 07:01 |
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| stephg | the 'receiver' one doesn't play anything either? | 07:05 |
| tat | yep | 07:06 |
| stephg | hm | 07:06 |
| stephg | and you've rebooted it since last week? | 07:06 |
| tat | yes | 07:06 |
| stephg | that's very strange | 07:06 |
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| tat | so my loadspeaker, was also off, it sad resource error, after reboot the loadspeaker is working, but the earpeace is still brocken | 07:07 |
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| stephg | something's gone wrong with pulseaudio? I have no idea unfortunately | 07:08 |
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| locusf | hmm Jolla reboots again, with 0% battery left after reboot | 12:13 |
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| locusf | probably gotta contact care :p | 12:51 |
| pp_ | they are helpful, yes | 12:52 |
| mikelima | Hi everybody | 12:56 |
| mikelima | I am at the Akademy conference, and I would like to get kdeconnect support into the sailfishos... | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | what does it do? | 12:57 |
| mikelima | I am looking at the desktop side code now; apparently, it could be the right starting point for the sailfish port. | 12:58 |
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| mikelima | Stskeeps: if your question is directed to me: it is a daemon that let the use exchange data with the phone: | 12:59 |
| mikelima | you can share files, for example but also copy clipboard content, or use the phone as a mouse. | 13:00 |
| mikelima | (or as a remote control) | 13:00 |
| mikelima | also it has a notification system, so you get popups on your desktop when you get an sms. things like that. | 13:02 |
| mikelima | Anyway... I have two problems so far: | 13:02 |
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| mikelima | the build system uses cmake. | 13:02 |
| Naranek | mikelima: sounds interesting :) | 13:02 |
| mikelima | are there examples on how to build/deploy cmake projects on the Jolla? | 13:03 |
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| mikelima | And then, I will have to find out what libraries I have to rebuild to make it work... so far, it needs qca, I think for authenticating the devices. | 13:04 |
| mikelima | Naranek: it is. | 13:04 |
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| javispedro | I am not sure if starting porting the desktop application will be the sanest goal | 13:04 |
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| javispedro | I assume it will depend on plenty of kde frameworks | 13:05 |
| mikelima | It is not limited to phones, too: you can see kdeconnect enabled computers in your vicinity, and pair with them, | 13:05 |
| mikelima | javispedro: I think so. | 13:05 |
| javispedro | I'd try to "extract" the protocol part of it | 13:06 |
| mikelima | I am still looking into ways to drop non-essential dependencies. | 13:06 |
| javispedro | I believe it will be the only stuff you can actually reuse on sailfish | 13:06 |
| javispedro | the rest will probably need to be sailfish specific | 13:06 |
| mikelima | Yes, that was what I thought. But apparently, each device has a service running, that handles discovery, and reacts to events. | 13:07 |
| javispedro | hm, maybe the service is portable enough? | 13:07 |
| javispedro | hmpf | 13:07 |
| javispedro | I see it is basically a kded service | 13:08 |
| mikelima | Yes, my idea is to use that... I fear file sharing depends on kio, though. | 13:08 |
| mikelima | In the end, it could simply become an application, maybe even "cover only" | 13:09 |
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| javispedro | that is not a problem unless you're targeting the store | 13:09 |
| javispedro | you can easily make daemons like sailfish | 13:09 |
| javispedro | *for sailfish | 13:09 |
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| mikelima | javispedro: right. I can live if it is outside the store, really. | 13:10 |
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| javispedro | in fact this would be quite similar to daemons for smartwatches, it involves mostly the same work... always-on daemons, very device specific info (battery status, etc.), filtering notifications | 13:10 |
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| mikelima | Anyway... currently i am re-writing the cmakefiles as qmake .pro files, to have a starting point. | 13:11 |
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| javispedro | virtually only the core/* stuff will be useful for a port | 13:12 |
| mikelima | But I would like to contribute back the changes to KDE, so it is easier to keep it updated, | 13:12 |
| mikelima | javispedro: yes, I thik so. | 13:12 |
| mikelima | That is the part I am trying to build :) | 13:12 |
| javispedro | I don't understand why it is so complicated =) | 13:13 |
| javispedro | I have something similar using bluetooth and rfcomm | 13:13 |
| mikelima | But the rest is quite modular, so I can add one "plugin" after another, as long as they are useful. | 13:13 |
| javispedro | and it is basically a very simple server (that could be a bash script if only d-bus is easier to use from qt) | 13:13 |
| javispedro | and you can write commands to it using a imap-like protocol e.g. a001 getBatteryCharge -> a001 OK 57% :) | 13:14 |
| javispedro | I even have a win32 client for it =) | 13:14 |
| javispedro | mikelima, the plugs seem oriented to be server-side, ie notifications plugin "renders" notification, doesn't capture them, from what I see | 13:16 |
| mikelima | well, it does not seem *that* complicated. | 13:17 |
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| w00t | javispedro: source available someplace? | 13:18 |
| javispedro | w00t, https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/kdeconnect-kde/repository | 13:19 |
| w00t | javispedro: I meant for your thing :) | 13:19 |
| javispedro | oh | 13:19 |
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| javispedro | w00t, i am at work, so not yet =) | 13:20 |
| w00t | I can wait :-) | 13:20 |
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| javispedro | btw w00t, do you know if there's any way I could be notified of when any qquickitem from a scene is dirtied, if the qquickview itself is hidden? | 13:22 |
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| w00t | javispedro: hmm, sletta would know for sure, but I would think that while hidden (no renderer), you won't get anything like that | 13:24 |
| javispedro | (basically I am still working on that daemon that would push rendered qml to a connected bluetooth watch) | 13:25 |
| javispedro | w00t, I've been reading source and it seems the case :( | 13:25 |
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| sletta | javispedro: so you have a qquickview which is not showing, but you want to render it and grab its content and push it to some other thing? | 13:26 |
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| javispedro | sletta, indeed. and it would be ideal if I there would be a way to know _when_ to grab its content | 13:27 |
| sletta | javispedro: In Qt 5.4, we added the QQuickRenderControl API to do just that. | 13:27 |
| sletta | It gets notified when the scene has changed and you control the rendering (and if it goes to and FBO) | 13:27 |
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| sletta | an FBO :) | 13:28 |
| javispedro | http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/qt5-5.4/qquickrendercontrol.html | 13:28 |
| javispedro | very nic | 13:28 |
| w00t | probably not much help just now, though :-P | 13:28 |
| javispedro | true, but I can probably use it as an example to do something similar on 5.2, even if it touches on internals | 13:29 |
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| sletta | javispedro: if you must have the feature today, you can implement the same thing via a custom scene graph adaptation layer and implement your own render loop. | 13:29 |
| javispedro | so.. a platform plugin? | 13:30 |
| sletta | scene graph adaptation plugin | 13:30 |
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| sletta | https://qt.gitorious.org/qtplayground/scenegraph/source/cb8c62c3f0354c9af7cf5808e3dad71a5a6434b3:customcontext | 13:30 |
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| sletta | there is a way to implement a custom renderloop (which is set up from QSGRenderLoop::instance() inside QtQuick) | 13:31 |
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| sletta | though this option has not been excercised for a while and might need some tinkering :p | 13:32 |
| javispedro | undocumented, internal and private plugin API :) | 13:32 |
| sletta | yep | 13:32 |
| javispedro | sounds fun :) | 13:32 |
| sletta | was meant for platform implementers only | 13:32 |
| javispedro | was it on qt5.0? or is it from qt5.2 onwards only? | 13:33 |
| sletta | this has been there since 5.0 | 13:33 |
| javispedro | *available on qt5 | 13:33 |
| javispedro | ok, I will try to see how small this plugin can go | 13:34 |
| javispedro | thanks! | 13:34 |
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| peppelakappa | which toolchain is the preferred one when building the kernel? | 14:00 |
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| cameris | I'm about to finish my first app, but I can't find the rpm when using the arm kit. | 14:49 |
| Acce | cameris: did you deploy it? | 14:50 |
| Acce | choose "deploy as rpm package" as deployment method, and choose Build->Deploy All (or your current project) | 14:52 |
| cameris | Acce: "Deploy By Building An RPM Package" is selected, but only the build button is available | 14:52 |
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| Acce | did you deploy it from the build menu in the top menu? that should create the rpms in <your build folder>/RPMS | 14:53 |
| cameris | Acce: got it, thx for the help. | 14:54 |
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| Acce | no problem, hope to see your app soon! | 14:55 |
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| tachikoma | hrm, i should do that as well | 15:01 |
| tachikoma | still have 2 apps ready that only need packaging ... | 15:01 |
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| arvut | hey, does it run on a samsung omnia 7? | 16:09 |
| arvut | winblows phone | 16:09 |
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| borcean | arvut: The channel #sailfishos-porters is where we discuss ports to other devices. However I do not think there is a port for that device. | 16:24 |
| tbr | first there would need to be a CM10.1 port for it | 16:27 |
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| cameris | I want to include nemo-keepalive in my project, and found following template on the mailing list: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-March/003746.html . But I can't compile ( dsme/messages.h: No such file or directory ), even though I have installed libiphb-devel and libdsme in the buildvm. | 16:27 |
| tbr | might still be missing a libdsme devel package? | 16:29 |
| cameris | tbr: nope | 16:30 |
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| cameris | hmm, don't know what I'm doing wrong. | 16:40 |
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| cameris | messages.h is in /usr/include/dsme. Do I have to add something to the gcc include path? | 16:57 |
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| cameris | -.- ofc it had to be installed in the scratchbox enviroment, while me idiot just ssh'ed to the mersdk and installed via zypper. stupid me. | 17:51 |
| Naranek | been there :) | 17:53 |
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| tortoisedoc | yeee | 20:04 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 20:04 |
| tortoisedoc | how comes Theme.highlightcolor gives me a white color always? :| | 20:05 |
| tortoisedoc | anyone experiencing the same? | 20:05 |
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| Vi- | hi | 22:48 |
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