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| coderus | hmm-m-m, phone just rebooted after incoming call showed | 06:46 |
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| tbr | coderus: on GSM coverage_ | 06:46 |
| tbr | ? | 06:46 |
| coderus | yep | 06:47 |
| coderus | and now it rebooting and rebooting again, and again rebooting and rebooting rebooting | 06:47 |
| * coderus need to make journal persistent | 06:49 | |
| coderus | can you remind me path of that config? | 06:49 |
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| tbr | don't remember | 06:51 |
| tbr | but sounds like oxide build up on your battery contacts | 06:51 |
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| tbr | either clean them with a hard rubber eraser or reseat the battery 5-10 times (that will rub the metal) | 06:52 |
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| stephg | ohai! | 06:52 |
| tbr | moo | 06:52 |
| stephg | tbr: how are tricks? | 06:53 |
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| tbr | stephg: so-n-so | 06:58 |
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| cameris | If I have a Page where I can switch between List- and GridView like the search page from components example project, how would I share a PullDown menu? I tried setting parent and flickable in the Component.onCompleted of each view, which gave me some visual bug. With a Loader I get some error msg's when I switch, but it works. So apperantley I'm doing something wrong. | 07:27 |
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| SK_work | cameris: I guess: use 2 pulley menus ? | 07:28 |
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| cameris | SK_work: had that for testing, but since they both did the same, I thought I could share one. | 07:29 |
| SK_work | cameris: not sure, as you need to move them from one listview to another | 07:30 |
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| SK_work | and this is just painful | 07:30 |
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| cameris | since sharing the searchField seemed so easy, I thought I give it a try on the PullDown. But I guess your right, not worth wasting time on it. | 07:32 |
| coderus | so | 07:40 |
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| SK_work | coderus: so | 07:41 |
| coderus | pullDownMenu._addToFlickable(listView / gridView) | 07:42 |
| coderus | easy? | 07:42 |
| SK_work | coderus: hehe, private API :D | 07:42 |
| coderus | ok | 07:42 |
| cameris | is that not the same as setting the flickable property? | 07:43 |
| coderus | grid[list]View.pullDownMenu = myPullDown | 07:43 |
| coderus | myPullDown.parent = grid[list]View.contentItem | 07:44 |
| coderus | thats all you need | 07:44 |
| cameris | thx, will try. | 07:44 |
| coderus | parent = flickable.contentItem <= take care about it | 07:44 |
| cameris | coderus: btw, about the GridView/SortFilterProxy not displaying the first item, lowering the cacheBuffer didn't help afterall. | 07:45 |
| coderus | cameris: still waiting for test case | 07:46 |
| cameris | yeah, I know. Just fyi, since I thought I had it fixed. | 07:47 |
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| entil | 7win 10 | 08:26 |
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| cameris | coderus: small test project is ready, same problem. where to send it? | 08:38 |
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| FloR707 | Hi there. Anyone here who can help me submitting a new app to the store? | 09:48 |
| Nicd- | what do you need help with exactly? | 09:49 |
| FloR707 | Actually I already submitted the app but got rejected. I wanted to submit the new version but I am not sure how. | 09:49 |
| Nicd- | go to harbour, edit the details of your app, delete the old rpm and upload the new one | 09:49 |
| Nicd- | then submit | 09:49 |
| FloR707 | Thats all? | 09:49 |
| Nicd- | should be | 09:50 |
| FloR707 | Okay thanks. I wasn't sure since nothing changed after I've done that. | 09:50 |
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| FloR707 | I expected some notification that the app is re-submitted. | 09:50 |
| Nicd- | what if you check notifications in harbour? | 09:50 |
| ln- | this might be a stupid question, but does your new version fix the reason why it was rejected in the first place? | 09:50 |
| Nicd- | whoa, the harbour numbers are updated! | 09:51 |
| Nicd- | and look real! | 09:51 |
| Stskeepz | RANDOM()? | 09:52 |
| FloR707 | Yes, I passed the rpm validator now. | 09:52 |
| FloR707 | No I do not have any new notifications. | 09:52 |
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| Armadillo_ | If you submitted the new version the status of your app in harbour is set to "QA" | 09:53 |
| Nicd- | Stskeepz: not random. they match with what is in store | 09:53 |
| FloR707 | Funny, the status just changed from rejected to updated. | 09:53 |
| Nicd- | Stskeepz: still can't see reviews but everything else looks correct | 09:53 |
| Armadillo_ | Nicd-: yes, there was an update some days ago, which has been anounced ont he devel mailing list ;) | 09:53 |
| Nicd- | nice :) | 09:53 |
| Nicd- | 1297 active installs \o/ | 09:54 |
| Armadillo_ | FloR707: then you submitted it and have to wait some hours now | 09:54 |
| Nicd- | I assume that means how many people have it on their phone *now* | 09:54 |
| Armadillo_ | I think so, too | 09:54 |
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| FloR707 | For the next update I would like to include orientation. So in case the user turns the phone the display turns, too. Is there a HowTo on that? I am just learning. | 09:55 |
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| Armadillo | yes there is one | 09:56 |
| FloR707 | Is there a number out there how many people are using SailfishOS? | 09:56 |
| Armadillo | https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-applicationwindow.html#allowedOrientations-prop | 09:56 |
| Armadillo | have a look at this page | 09:57 |
| FloR707 | Thanks a lot! | 09:57 |
| Armadillo | I don't think there is a public known number of used Sailfish phone currently | 09:58 |
| Armadillo | Nicd-: which app did mean with the ~1300 installations? | 09:58 |
| Nicd- | Armadillo: SailTime | 09:58 |
| Armadillo | ah ok | 09:59 |
| TMavica | coderus: where is the db located? | 09:59 |
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| Wnt | FloR707: the android support app from Jolla store has 25000+ downloads. I think that might be pretty close to the number of total SailfishOS users | 10:02 |
| Armadillo | he's gone ;) | 10:02 |
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| Armadillo | the total downloads don't represent the currently active installations of the apps | 10:03 |
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| Armadillo | I can't remember if the Android support has been installed by default | 10:04 |
| coderus | TMavica: answered in github :) | 10:04 |
| Wnt | no applications sthat are available from the store are installed by default | 10:04 |
| Wnt | as far as I know | 10:04 |
| Armadillo | additionally the download counter on the store is not very precise, because the value changes only after some thousand more donwloads, for example 100+, 500+, 1000+, 5000+,... | 10:06 |
| Armadillo | so if the Android support has 25000+, it could probably be 49999 :) | 10:07 |
| oh8gnz | android support and some others can be installed when phoneis first time started | 10:07 |
| Armadillo | can, but it doesn't need to | 10:08 |
| oh8gnz | yes, it's not must | 10:08 |
| Armadillo | so the correct number of online Sailfish devices is only known by Jolla itself | 10:08 |
| oh8gnz | that's the thing #1 I like in Jolla... nearly nothing is a must | 10:08 |
| Armadillo | maybe they give us some information about this in the future | 10:08 |
| oh8gnz | my 11 month old son also loves jolla | 10:10 |
| oh8gnz | seems that it tastes good.. ;) | 10:10 |
| SK_work | :D | 10:10 |
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| Stskeepz | oh8gnz: mine put me on hold when i called him. | 10:10 |
| Stskeepz | with pulley menu. | 10:10 |
| Armadillo | everyone I know who bought a Jolla loves it at least one day after the first usage | 10:11 |
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| oh8gnz | I knew few that doesn't | 10:11 |
| Stskeepz | either you like a device or you don't :P | 10:11 |
| SK_work | Stskeepz: no mixed feelings allowed ? | 10:12 |
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| Stskeepz | SK_work: hmmm. :) | 10:12 |
| SK_work | Stskeepz: one question, did you (either with Mer hat, or with Jolla hat) thought of running a CI for nemo components ? | 10:13 |
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| Stskeepz | SK_work: yes but even in jolla as you know it's not really traditional CI | 10:16 |
| SK_work | what's traditionnal and non-traditionnal CI ? | 10:17 |
| Stskeepz | as in that usually it's when a maintainer tags that a build happens | 10:17 |
| Stskeepz | brb getting water | 10:18 |
| Stskeepz | and promotion to 'stable' or 'testing' happens seperately, as a whole stack | 10:19 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:53 |
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| SK_work | Stskeepz: I was thinking of automated CI to detect regressions and run tests | 12:07 |
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| Armadillo | are there any news on the app settings integration for third party applications? | 13:07 |
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| tbr | good point, check TJC | 13:08 |
| tbr | if there's nothing, put it on the meeting agenda | 13:08 |
| tbr | that tends to at least to get answers | 13:08 |
| Armadillo | good idea | 13:10 |
| Armadillo | can just take the question template from tjc and post it filled in a new comment or should I make an answer? | 13:11 |
| Armadillo | the problem is, that I mostly have no time slot to participate in the meetings | 13:12 |
| kimmoli | for meeting topic proposals, edit the wikipost there | 13:14 |
| Armadillo | what if I can not be present to present the topic and don't know anyone who could/want to do this for me? | 13:15 |
| Armadillo | damn need more karma :D | 13:18 |
| kimmoli | :) | 13:19 |
| Armadillo | good to know people with much more karma hehe | 13:19 |
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| tbr | Armadillo: I can bring the topic forward if necessary. it's straight forward and short. | 13:27 |
| SK_work | Armadillo: I will bring this question to you | 13:28 |
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| Armadillo | SK_work tbr thank you, I added (respectively instructed some to add) both of you :) | 13:32 |
| Armadillo | someone | 13:32 |
| tbr | so there is no TJC question covering this? | 13:33 |
| Armadillo | haven't found one | 13:34 |
| Armadillo | not via tjc search nor google serch with the +site parameter | 13:34 |
| Armadillo | damn, now I got one | 13:35 |
| Armadillo | https://together.jolla.com/question/13464/why-are-native-app-developers-not-using-settings-apps/ | 13:35 |
| Armadillo | thanks to Sail0r ^^ | 13:35 |
| Sail0r | :P | 13:36 |
| Armadillo | but there's no solution or answer from Jolla to this topic | 13:39 |
| Armadillo | and latest acitivity is from january :-/ | 13:39 |
| kimmoli | time to bring it up | 13:40 |
| Armadillo | think so, too | 13:40 |
| * kimmoli also likes to know how to have settings for "iconless" apps | 13:40 | |
| kimmoli | as the app-settings page seems to follow launcher | 13:41 |
| tbr | please mention the question in the meeting wiki | 13:41 |
| kimmoli | confusing templateing | 13:42 |
| Armadillo | But you found a good solution ;) | 13:46 |
| kimmoli | adhoc | 13:46 |
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| m4g0g | hello | 13:48 |
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| m4g0g | I have page with SilicaFlickable but I don't want to fill whole page. How can I have top margin equal to header? I don't want to cover navigation buttons | 13:49 |
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| m4g0g | what is the right way for this? | 13:57 |
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| tbr | Armadillo: reading this I guess that the answer will be a no. it's good to ask regardless though. | 13:59 |
| m4g0g | guys, no ideas? | 14:02 |
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| SK_work | :) | 14:04 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: put a header | 14:04 |
| SK_work | empty one | 14:04 |
| SK_work | depending on what you want inside your page you might also consider ViewPlaceHolder | 14:04 |
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| Armadillo | tbr: sure, this is a possible answer. But I hope those settings were not planned to only be supported by non Jolla apps. I think this would be a great feature to enhance the "Sailfish feeling" | 14:05 |
| tbr | Armadillo: have you read the answer? | 14:05 |
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| SK_work | tbr: if there is a demand, at least we could force Jolla to polish their API | 14:06 |
| m4g0g | SK_work: but page and silicaflickable haven't header element | 14:07 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: ha | 14:07 |
| Armadillo | tbr: the on of the old tjc thread? yes, but this doesn't mean that there's no other way to implement this in a way which also works with the current privilege system | 14:07 |
| SK_work | Column | 14:07 |
| SK_work | and inside, header | 14:08 |
| m4g0g | wow. Thx | 14:08 |
| Armadillo | for me Jollas APIs is one of the biggest problems which I have as a small developer, because there is none for the calendar, for the settings and so on... | 14:10 |
| tbr | Armadillo: to me it sounds like they won't bother with it until they have implemented their priviledge dropping. So that is also what the question in the meeting will be about. | 14:10 |
| tbr | what are their plans in that respect and are we going to see anything there any time soon | 14:11 |
| Armadillo | tbr: well, maybe we get a roigh timeline for the privilege dropping, better than nothing ;) | 14:11 |
| Armadillo | rough | 14:11 |
| Armadillo | can't type today, sorry... | 14:12 |
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| tbr | yes, that's why I suggested bringing it up in the first place | 14:14 |
| Armadillo | well, hope dies last :) | 14:15 |
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| cameris | For the first time I used the harbour rpm validator, I didn't realize that nemomobile.thumbnailer is not allowed in harbour. Is there an alternative or do I have to download the sources and include it in the project? | 15:51 |
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| coderus | cameris: yep | 15:52 |
| coderus | using thumbnailer for what? | 15:52 |
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| cameris | coderus: a search page with lots of images (also the page where I have the problem with the GridView/ProxyModel) | 15:58 |
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| coderus | ok | 16:07 |
| coderus | just checking your test project atm. | 16:07 |
| cameris | cool. thx. | 16:07 |
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| cameris | if all the images that I display are <200kB, does it even make sense to use a thumbnailer? | 16:55 |
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| javispedro | cameris: depends on how much control you have over them. decoding+rendering time does not only depend on size | 16:57 |
| javispedro | ie there may be a 10k x 10k jpeg file in under 200kB | 16:58 |
| javispedro | so if you are sure all the images are "sane", then the answer is no | 16:58 |
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| javispedro | besides 200kB might still be a too high threshold | 16:59 |
| SpeedEvil | Well-itdepends | 16:59 |
| SpeedEvil | 100 photos is in the range you want them to load 'instantly' | 17:00 |
| SpeedEvil | that's 20 meg | 17:00 |
| SpeedEvil | Even only considering the time to read them noncontiguously from storage, that's not negligible | 17:00 |
| coderus | cameris: lol | 17:07 |
| coderus | cameris: if i use callWidth: width / 3 its not visible | 17:07 |
| coderus | cameris: but with cellWIdth: width / 4 it's visible :D | 17:08 |
| cameris | thx for the answers so far. well, images are 500x700 size max. 180kB. There will be max 30 images on screen (+ the ones the view is loading int background). would it suffice to set source.size in QML Image or would a thumbnailer still be better? | 17:08 |
| cameris | coderus: wtf? | 17:09 |
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| cameris | coderus: ofc | 17:09 |
| javispedro | cameris: the generic answer is ... benchmark =) | 17:09 |
| coderus | cameris: if you will use Image { sourceSize.width: parent.width and sourceSize.height: parent.height } it will clip image with QImageReader | 17:09 |
| coderus | cameris: and it will use very low amout of ram :) | 17:10 |
| coderus | thumbnailer is useful for video thumbmails btw | 17:11 |
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| cameris | coderus: I think it only happens when the delegate is instantiated as part of the caching, so not directly on the Screen. if the search string gets build up more and the already loaded delegate comes to view, it just doesnt show up. If for another searchstring the delegate gets instantiated and is inside screen it will show up, no matter what. | 17:13 |
| cameris | so changing the cellwidth does affect this i guess | 17:13 |
| coderus | cameris: ok, just find another case instead of "ang" | 17:16 |
| coderus | and also test it on desktop with Qt 5.2 | 17:16 |
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| coderus | if can reproduce - fill bug to qtbugs | 17:16 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.3 update. LOG: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.8.3 DL: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 18:15 |
| cameris | coderus: another case would be 'af' or 'k' | 18:17 |
| Nightmare__ | did you change anything influencing the high cpu usage bug? | 18:17 |
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| coderus | Nightmare__: no | 18:22 |
| coderus | cameris: not happening with 4 in a row | 18:23 |
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| cameris | coderus: as said, I think it only occurs when the delegate is already instantiated and moved on screen through a filter. changing the columns off the gridview changes all that, but I'm sure I can find one for 4 columns too. | 18:25 |
| coderus | cameris: yes, find for 4 in a row please | 18:27 |
| cameris | coderus: 4 columns: 'co' | 18:28 |
| cameris | 'b' too | 18:28 |
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| coderus | co reproduceable | 18:33 |
| coderus | b not | 18:34 |
| coderus | ok | 18:34 |
| coderus | need to check with desktop QML | 18:34 |
| cameris | coderus: if you add this in FirstPage.qml: to searchField onTextChanged: { console.log("--------------------") } | to gridDelegate onComponentCompleted: { console.log(model.data } . | 18:34 |
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| coderus | cameris: so, what if i add this? :) | 18:47 |
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| cameris | well, you see that the delegate that don't show up are created before the searchString would display them as first item. for example with 3 columns: 'c', you see "Cocos Islands" is instantiated. its in the 5. row and therefore offscreen. if you now add 'o', "Cocos Island" is the first item and doesn't show, even when created. If you want to find "Brazil" and type 'b' you dont see it created, now add 'r' and "Brazil" is the firs | 19:01 |
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| coderus | cameris: if elements not too much more probably you can use static Grid element? | 19:29 |
| coderus | componrnt* | 19:29 |
| coderus | conponent** | 19:29 |
| cameris | coderus: 1201 delegates with Image {}. | 19:33 |
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| cameris | coderus: maybe I should emit a dataChanged(QAbstractListModle::index(0), ...) in the ProxyModel, when changing the stringFilter | 19:35 |
| coderus | no | 19:36 |
| coderus | you shouldn't care too much about proxy model | 19:36 |
| coderus | imho its render bug | 19:36 |
| coderus | you can lose last elements, but not first | 19:36 |
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| coderus | need to check it tomorrow on desktop | 19:37 |
| coderus | and decide then | 19:37 |
| coderus | time to sleep now btw :) | 19:37 |
| coderus | cya | 19:37 |
| cameris | coderus: thank you very much for your help, gn8. | 19:38 |
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| Tumeez | Why I can't read new groupmessages? MitäKuuluu.. | 20:40 |
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| Tumeez | And all my own messages show red ball | 20:41 |
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