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| coderus | any way to execute action from .desktop file with no invoker? | 07:24 |
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| coderus | ah, its X-Nemo-Application-Type=no-invoker, sure :) | 07:26 |
| kimmoli | yep | 07:26 |
| kimmoli | gm | 07:26 |
| coderus | nice addition for powermenu: flashlight http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1436217&postcount=23 | 07:29 |
| narchie | does it send stats to private server | 07:33 |
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| coderus | no it only bricking your device by master request | 07:35 |
| jnconte | Hi everybody, I'm a happy Jolla user for a month. Didn't encountered any problem for the moment. I just noticed something weird : when you click on a link in an app, a pop-up message appears at the top of the screen saying "Opening browser application". If the ambiance is light (like yellow for me), the text is written in white and I can barely read it. I'm not familiar with bug reports (is it really a bug ? More a enhancement) so | 07:35 |
| Stskeepz | jnconte: you got cut off at "enhanchement) so" | 07:36 |
| jnconte | haha | 07:36 |
| jnconte | so where should I mention that ? Thanks :) | 07:36 |
| coderus | jnconte: yellow ambience? never seen yellow ambiences. | 07:36 |
| Stskeepz | jnconte: screenshots might help | 07:36 |
| jnconte | I will | 07:36 |
| narchie | coderus: perfect | 07:36 |
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| coderus | it might be usual user error, when peoples trying to make ambiences wrongly. | 07:36 |
| coderus | narchie: https://github.com/CODeRUS/powermenu | 07:37 |
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| narchie | yeah, looking at it, looks nice | 07:37 |
| entil | coderus: what actions can it have? | 07:40 |
| entil | there's not much in the readme | 07:40 |
| jnconte | where can I post the screenshot ? | 07:40 |
| coderus | entil: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/powermenu | 07:42 |
| coderus | jnconte: imgur.com? | 07:42 |
| entil | coderus: is the answer that it can have any actions and apps?-) | 07:43 |
| jnconte | here it is : http://imgur.com/Q5OtRdm | 07:44 |
| jnconte | Maybe i'm doing something wrong.. | 07:44 |
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| coderus | entil: yes | 07:47 |
| entil | sweet, then I might even try it out, because I'd like to control airplane mode and antennae quicker than through the settings menu | 07:47 |
| coderus | jnconte: just create proper ambience with proper highlightColor :) | 07:47 |
| coderus | if you using automatic generated ambience it can be puzzled at mixed images like your | 07:48 |
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| jnconte | Yeah I was speaking about auto-generated ambiances, but I didn't see any way to change colors by hand (as a user I mean). Did I miss something? | 07:52 |
| coderus | jnconte: you can check this: https://together.jolla.com/question/25993/how-to-create-an-ambience-rpm-using-template-from-toh-dev-kit/ | 07:54 |
| coderus | you pack your ambience wallpaper and manually choose colors it should have. | 07:55 |
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| kimmoli | you can also make that w/o sounds, just wallpapaer and colors | 08:13 |
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| Naranek | harbour queue is taking longer than usual :/ | 08:33 |
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| walokra | harbour queue was quite fast this time | 08:42 |
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| Naranek | oh no.. what have I done wrong :D | 08:44 |
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| cameris | does someone know if/when nemomobile-keepalive will be available? | 09:27 |
| SK_work | cameris: dynamically link it (rpath) with your path ? | 09:28 |
| SK_work | or even statically link it ? | 09:28 |
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| cameris | SK_work: thx, but I'm not sure I'm following you. | 09:33 |
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| Naranek | can anyone from Jolla tell what's holding RouteSkipper 0.3 update in QA? I submitted it on sunday, and it's still tightly anchored in harbour. | 11:37 |
| nazanin | Naranek: it's stil in the queue :) will be tested within 48-hour in business days :) | 11:39 |
| tadzik | so that's 6 business days? :P | 11:40 |
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| nazanin | tadzik: is it related to this? https://together.jolla.com/question/53728/qa-lasts-more-than-week/ | 11:41 |
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| tadzik | nazanin: I was just kidding, business day being 8 hours 48 hours is 6 business days:) | 11:41 |
| nazanin | tadzik: ah :P | 11:42 |
| tadzik | "Doge Now" is not harbour-ready yet, I have no experience with how much the QA lasts | 11:42 |
| kimmoli_sailing | depend how good your app is :) | 11:42 |
| kimmoli_sailing | and how nice you are to nazanin ... | 11:42 |
| nazanin | kimmoli_sailing: lol | 11:43 |
| Naranek | nazanin: cool! thanks :) I was just checking because the previous ones got thru in a few hours. | 11:43 |
| tadzik | kimmoli_sailing: any bribe currency I should start collecting? Cookies? Beer? | 11:43 |
| nazanin | Naranek: depend on the qeueu... when there are more apps, it takes longer :-) | 11:43 |
| kimmoli_sailing | i could recommending doing harbour pre validation and powertop tests | 11:43 |
| kimmoli_sailing | before sending to harbour | 11:44 |
| tadzik | that sounds sensible | 11:44 |
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| rysiek|pl | ohai | 12:01 |
| tadzik | hello hello | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | dzien dobry | 12:02 |
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| kimmoli_sailing | tadzik: some good food recipes might do the trick :) | 12:11 |
| nazanin | kimmoli_sailing: haha | 12:12 |
| nazanin | kimmoli_sailing: I *kinda* agree | 12:13 |
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| m4g0g | рш | 12:26 |
| m4g0g | hi | 12:26 |
| m4g0g | How I can show animated (gif) image from url in qml without animation? | 12:26 |
| m4g0g | If I use Image, I get file:///usr/share/harbour-mnemosy/qml/pages/FeedPage.qml:121:21: QML Image: Error decoding: http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/112733578/35242628: Unsupported image format | 12:27 |
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| m4g0g | if I use AnimatedImage I get file:///usr/share/harbour-mnemosy/qml/pages/FeedPage.qml:122:21: QML AnimatedImage: Error Reading Animated Image File http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/112733578/35242628 | 12:28 |
| m4g0g | How I can do it? | 12:28 |
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| kimmoli_sailing | animated images not supported.afaic | 12:31 |
| kimmoli_sailing | tries once and failed | 12:31 |
| m4g0g | Any ideas how I can do it? | 12:33 |
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| kimmoli_sailing | QMovie ? | 12:37 |
| m4g0g | in qml? | 12:37 |
| kimmoli_sailing | Ah. AnimatedImage uses qmovie,.did you try with local file? | 12:38 |
| m4g0g | I want to show in listview users avatars. One of the supported formats - gif. But QML doesn't show this images | 12:38 |
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| m4g0g | kimmoli_sailing: yes, Doesn't show this local file too. The same error | 12:41 |
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| m4g0g | argh. How I can show gif image? | 13:07 |
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| jpnurmi | AnimatedImage | 13:28 |
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| jpnurmi | if you have trouble loading a gif file, check what QMovie::supportedFormats() outputs | 13:29 |
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| muppeth | guys, how is the telepathy XEP-0280 on sailfish. judging by my phone not recevien carbons, it;s not working. | 14:17 |
| tbr | muppeth: look at the version of telepathy-gabble and then go from there | 14:18 |
| tbr | muppeth: looking at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78093 - I'd say it's still going to take a while | 14:21 |
| Merbot | Freedesktop bug 78093 in gabble "Implement sharing a conversation between multiple devices using XEP-0280 - Message Carbons" [Enhancement,New] | 14:21 |
| DevBot | Bug 78093: was not found. | 14:21 |
| DevBot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78093 was not found. | 14:21 |
| * tbr gently kicks devbot | 14:22 | |
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| muppeth | hmmm.... not good. just added carbon support on my server :( | 14:23 |
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| Phantasm | Anyone have any idea what is the status of Sailfish working for Nexus 5 properly? I know it can somewhat run there, but as main phone it would need to work sanely with GPS and such. | 14:31 |
| tadzik | I saw http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54908285&postcount=174 today | 14:31 |
| Nicd- | Phantasm: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 14:32 |
| Phantasm | Ok, so notable amount of missing features still. | 14:32 |
| Morpog_PC | Phantasm, that will take a while | 14:33 |
| tadzik | still looks like the most complete port | 14:33 |
| tadzik | after Galaxy Nexus, maybe | 14:33 |
| Phantasm | I recall they promised Nexus 457 to be officially supported within this year. | 14:33 |
| Morpog_PC | kinda sad that community is faster than Jolla | 14:34 |
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| Morpog_PC | Phantasm, they only work on Nexus 4 | 14:34 |
| Morpog_PC | Nexus 5 is done by community (mostly vgrade) | 14:34 |
| Phantasm | I'm disappointed at many things about Jolla. | 14:34 |
| Morpog_PC | they are a very small startup | 14:35 |
| Morpog_PC | 100 employes, i guess samsung has 100 people whose only job is to make coffee | 14:35 |
| Phantasm | The hardware is a bit lacking compared to price (like Nexus 5), but that is acceptable given the things. But, the second half. Nice feature and would have won me over, but they don't do any second halves. Like no official qwerty or anything. | 14:35 |
| Phantasm | And they offer very little updates on what is happening around. | 14:36 |
| Phantasm | Small company, sure.. But they also lack the dinosaur hell many large ones have. | 14:36 |
| Phantasm | Especially Nokia had.. | 14:36 |
| Morpog_PC | erm, thats not true, you can get a lot of info. You can even see them working in projets that are open sourced with their daily commits | 14:36 |
| Phantasm | If you look into actual commits, sure.. But as bystander. There isn't that much official information around. | 14:37 |
| tadzik | not much communication for a "let's be a community together" company | 14:37 |
| Morpog_PC | Do you really want them to blog everyday for 2 hours, or to work that 2 hours on the software? | 14:37 |
| Phantasm | More like once a month about how things are going overall. | 14:38 |
| Morpog_PC | Well, they do that in maillist every now and then | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | also, some might not see that a lot of the community individual sailors is doing is because it's accepted/encouraged part of working with community.. | 14:38 |
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| Stskeeps | we aren't just sitting on irc and talking because of massive irc addiction alone | 14:39 |
| Morpog_PC | and you get every month a software update (well not this month due to summer break which btw. was openly communicated) | 14:39 |
| Phantasm | How about easily lookable webpage with the info? | 14:39 |
| Phantasm | I don't have Jolla phone because of no proper second halves and a bit lacking hardware. Bought Nexus 5 instead and I'm waiting on back for Sailfish to work on it. | 14:39 |
| Phantasm | Would have bought it had they offered official qwerty second half. | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | did you see the n5 releases by community? | 14:40 |
| Nicd- | hardware is really expensive though | 14:40 |
| Phantasm | I did see there is alpha 3. | 14:40 |
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| Morpog_PC | The hardware is fast enough for everything. A KBD OH which you might be missing is kinda pointless with so less landscape supported software | 14:40 |
| Nicd- | a flimsy keyboard OH would only get more hate for jolla | 14:40 |
| Phantasm | And I did notice the wiki list on what things work. | 14:40 |
| Nicd- | so it would have to be really good but the amount of sales wouldn't be enough I thin | 14:41 |
| Morpog_PC | this is NOT a N900 successor. | 14:41 |
| Nicd- | think* | 14:41 |
| Phantasm | They still don't support landscape and virtually everything? That is an issue then. ;P | 14:41 |
| Morpog_PC | here and there it's supported, where it makes sense most | 14:41 |
| Morpog_PC | like browser, email, messaing, etc. | 14:41 |
| Phantasm | I use nexus 5 on landspace most of the time. Especially if I need to write something on the touchscreen keyboard. | 14:42 |
| muppeth | Phantasm: thought the same (n900 fanboy), i didnt buy jolla in the begining because of lack of keyboard. I just got my phone last week and i have to say, i dont miss kayboard that much. | 14:42 |
| Phantasm | Fingerterm sure helps with lack of physical keyboard.. And Android lacks anything similar. | 14:43 |
| Morpog_PC | fingerterms keayborad sucks to be honest :D | 14:43 |
| Phantasm | Ircing on N9 with Fingerterm is much better than on Nexus 5 with connectbot or such. | 14:43 |
| tadzik | I just stopped using ssh on the phone, and I don't miss the keyboard that much | 14:43 |
| tadzik | mostly because every phone I own is a toy for 2 weeks and then an alarm clock | 14:43 |
| Phantasm | Even though Nexus 5 if 4.95" monitor. | 14:44 |
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| Phantasm | is* | 14:44 |
| Phantasm | Morpog_PC: I know the keyboard works less well than default keyboard on at least N9. But with so much screen area that can be used on it.. Easier to write with. | 14:45 |
| Phantasm | And also I get full screen area to show stuff on IRC. | 14:45 |
| Morpog_PC | i still prefer to use putty from my pc if I have to hack a little on my Jolla :D | 14:45 |
| Phantasm | On Android I have to essentially divide the screen area to keyboard and to SSH terminal. | 14:45 |
| Morpog_PC | and for IRC I use communi on my Jolla | 14:45 |
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| Phantasm | It sure is sad that there is very little competition with Android around. | 14:49 |
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| Phantasm | iOS will never get that large share with the prices. And Windows Phone OS doesn't have much share.. Even if might be (not sure) sane nowadays. | 14:51 |
| Phantasm | Google can do as they like with all the user tracking and such. | 14:52 |
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| lukedirtwalker | well if you don't support other platforms it will stay this way. | 14:53 |
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| sledges | psa: sailfishoss community meeting in #mer-meeting | 15:01 |
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| tadzik | thank you | 15:03 |
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| SK_work | faenil's not around :/ | 15:07 |
| SK_work | since his hdd died :( | 15:07 |
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| sledges | :( | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | you can always get on irc if you are desperate, ubuntu livecd.. | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:09 |
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| javispedro | actually he couldn't get ubuntu to boot either | 15:11 |
| SK_work | :( | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok, then a bit of desperation is warranted | 15:11 |
| javispedro | I have the same machine he has, and it has one of those weird very early UEFI bioses | 15:11 |
| javispedro | so it may true it's picky to some bootsectors | 15:12 |
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| SK_work | uefi is really pita | 15:14 |
| javispedro | well now I'm starting to like it (e.g. on my surfacepro) | 15:15 |
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| javispedro | but on that machine it was horrible, it's locked, hidden | 15:15 |
| javispedro | even the setup program is written as a realmode program | 15:15 |
| javispedro | insideh2o if you want to google around | 15:15 |
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| cameris | I'm having some trouble with a PullDownMenu inside a flickable. When I try to assing a bool property to it's visible property following error occurs: TypeError: Result of expression is not an object. | 15:35 |
| SK_work | cameris: code snippet please | 15:38 |
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| cameris | SK_work: http://pastebin.com/X1HjS92x | 15:43 |
| SK_work | cameris: what is that rotation 180 ? | 15:44 |
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| cameris | SK_work: mirrors the Component for the opponent player | 15:55 |
| SK_work | ah ok | 15:56 |
| SK_work | don't seeing anything wrong :/ | 15:56 |
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| cameris | SK_work: any idea to why it is expecting an object (TypeError) ? | 15:58 |
| Morpog_PC | Phantasm, btw. about roadmap and openess: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-August/004939.html | 16:02 |
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| cameris | well, just setting the visible property when I change the bool, works. good enough for me. | 16:12 |
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| coderus | i'm at village with ping between 2-20 secongs :P | 17:05 |
| coderus | hello 2G! | 17:06 |
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| coderus | sledges: where is minutes of meeting available? | 17:07 |
| coderus | i have no messages in my mail inbox :) | 17:07 |
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| SK_work | coderus: :D | 17:07 |
| SK_work | coderus: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-08-19-15.04.log.html | 17:08 |
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| javispedro | who keeps moving SDK repo URLs around? :P | 17:16 |
| javispedro | http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/hotfixes/i486/ :'( | 17:16 |
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| coderus | SK_work: thanks :) | 17:24 |
| coderus | javispedro: update your SDK, lol | 17:24 |
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| javispedro | ah, using cloudfront now | 17:29 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, will do other colors tomorrow, don't have the SVG file on my home pc | 17:51 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: sure :) | 17:51 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 18:10 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : ping | 18:10 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc: m? | 18:14 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : I am planning powermenu integration with quickbar | 18:14 |
| tortoisedoc | you have dbus signal for showing it | 18:14 |
| tortoisedoc | is there a dbus signal for when the window hides as well? | 18:14 |
| tortoisedoc | or, if there isnt, could you add one? :) | 18:14 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: sure | 18:16 |
| tortoisedoc | awesome ^^ | 18:16 |
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| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/powermenu/commit/c4a81d36c223006b80b2450146a7909d3f70bbc1 | 18:42 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: ^ | 18:42 |
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| Naranek | it might be a good idea to remove the "How can I disable single-instance launching?" from FAQ at https://harbour.jolla.com/faq when doing that in fact leads to rejecting the application | 18:53 |
| raa70 | =) | 18:54 |
| javispedro | lol, really? | 18:54 |
| Naranek | yes really | 18:54 |
| javispedro | funnily I was just reading http://developer.samsung.com/forum/thread/direct-deployment-of-gear-2-applications/201/270565?boardName=SDK&startId=zzzzz~ | 18:54 |
| javispedro | tl;dr guy gets application rejected from samsung store because "reviewers couldn't figure out" | 18:55 |
| javispedro | application turns out to be designed for use by nurses and physicians, requires indeed 10h training | 18:55 |
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| javispedro | no sideload so no ability to install it on devices if not approved by store | 18:56 |
| javispedro | just funny how little thought-out appstores usually are :) | 18:56 |
| Naranek | ouch. that really stinks. I can just disable that feature and be done with it, but those guys seem to be out of luck. | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | i'm a fan of the no-appstore world. :P | 18:59 |
| Naranek | still.. I was pretty proud of myself for actually utilizing the covers and multitasking. The idea was to be able to follow several routes at the same time. | 19:00 |
| javispedro | I agree it is very useful. | 19:00 |
| Naranek | With live data that would have even better.. http://ka.tunk.org/public/routeskipper/multiple%20routes.png | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw, our qa sailors are humans, if there's a reason for multiple launch.. | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | then it can be talked about | 19:01 |
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| javispedro | generally I'd say there needs to be less of single-instance in the entire system... but that's another story. maybe sailfish+1 | 19:03 |
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| Naranek | I used a Pre3 before Jolla and they did the whole multitasking incredibly well | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | webos had its charm | 19:04 |
| javispedro | yep, I was thinking of the Pre indeed. | 19:04 |
| Naranek | :) | 19:04 |
| Naranek | too bad it failed | 19:04 |
| javispedro | actually win8.1 now has a similar system (no stacks though) | 19:05 |
| javispedro | programs can open multiple windows, no multiple instances though | 19:05 |
| javispedro | hm. | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | i've had a few days with win8.1 and i want to jump out of a window. | 19:05 |
| javispedro | maybe you can actually open multiple windows on sailfish and call it a day :) | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | well, you can | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | i think :P | 19:06 |
| Naranek | the webos calendar was incredible too. It had tons of features and it was still super easy to use. | 19:06 |
| javispedro | yeah, fingerterm does it | 19:06 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps: I'm actually dangerously liking win8.1 tabletmode | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | well, it wasn't bad on exopc. | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | that's true. | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | but for a laptop, which is what i'm using atm, ... :P | 19:07 |
| javispedro | it's windows. | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:07 |
| javispedro | at some point you realize you can no longer do your daily work on windows, | 19:07 |
| Naranek | well.. the actual change in the app was a single row in the .desktop file, so maybe it could be added to other apps' .desktop files after installing as well? | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | i've kind of converted into a macos x user recently.. | 19:08 |
| javispedro | in the same 15 years ago I could not do my daily work on then Linux distros | 19:08 |
| javispedro | *in the same way 15 years.. | 19:08 |
| javispedro | the programs you need just aren't there | 19:08 |
| javispedro | :) | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | as i had a total work capability breakdown where i simply couldn't do the level of work/document collaboration needed for my work | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | on linux | 19:08 |
| pp_ | office for mac is awesome for that kind of stuff | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | and while i love linux, it's about not loving your tools.. | 19:09 |
| pp_ | tho the windows version actually runs pretty well with wine | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | +too much | 19:09 |
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| Stskeeps | and windows just makes me angry.. macos x is surprisingily good experience that linux desktop could learn a lot from | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:10 |
| * javispedro uses codeweavers for office, so he's not without sin | 19:10 | |
| pp_ | they're slipping, badly, though | 19:10 |
| javispedro | fortunately I have never been able to switch to apple | 19:11 |
| javispedro | I always have this feeling they'll just do something stupid on the next version of osx | 19:11 |
| javispedro | and it'll be their way or the highway | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | how is that different than linux? | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:11 |
| * javispedro coughs from his sysvinit, mate desktop system | 19:12 | |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : wow thanks! | 19:12 |
| pp_ | I'm running the beta, it seems like fedora n+1 alpha ;) | 19:12 |
| javispedro | more like "coughs comfortably" | 19:13 |
| pp_ | oh right, I'm not supposed to say in public how buggy the yosemite beta is :P | 19:13 |
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| javispedro | though I have to admit it does take a lot of time to get the setup done :P | 19:13 |
| tortoisedoc | pp_ : yosemite beta? | 19:13 |
| tortoisedoc | :P | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | i had my last straw when i had to execute a selinux relabelling due to a thunderstorm shutdown. | 19:14 |
| javispedro | hey, so you share my hate for all security systems then! :) | 19:14 |
| M4rtinK | I think I wouldn't be able to use macsox | 19:14 |
| javispedro | selinux, smack, aegis... I hate them all. | 19:14 |
| M4rtinK | tried it a few times at school at it was horribly unintuitive | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | i was fully functional on it within a day | 19:15 |
| javispedro | they're just not worth the added complexity towards old unix permissions (which may already be too complex) | 19:15 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps; welk you can elways setenforce 0 | 19:15 |
| M4rtinK | and be done with it | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | M4rtinK: well, try that when it doesn't let me log in at all .. :P | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | and /bin/sh isn't working.. | 19:16 |
| javispedro | nuke from orbit | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | (i appreciate fedora for other things, though) | 19:16 |
| M4rtinK | there are even setenforce tshirts btw, both variants :) | 19:16 |
| M4rtinK | selinux=0 on kernel params :) | 19:16 |
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| M4rtinK | in grub | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | it was fun until i had to reinstall 5th time.. i guess i'm having a mid life geek crsis | 19:18 |
| javispedro | that's what I fear most actually | 19:18 |
| M4rtinK | just 5 times ? bah! | 19:18 |
| javispedro | at some point bluetooth will break for the nth time and I'll just say fsck all. | 19:18 |
| javispedro | then again ironically bluetooth is as of now broken in mavericks betas :) | 19:19 |
| M4rtinK | I re/install Fedora multiple times a day! ;-) | 19:19 |
| M4rtinK | (I work on the Fedora installer) | 19:19 |
| javispedro | s/mavericks/mavericks+1/ what was its name? | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | yosemite? | 19:20 |
| javispedro | yep | 19:20 |
| javispedro | seems they changed blued (userspace daemon) API without changing kernel side | 19:20 |
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| Stskeeps | software is hard. let's all become farmers. | 19:20 |
| javispedro | i guess every geek becomes a programmer farmer eventually.... | 19:21 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, let me know if you have any issues with Fedora installs - it might be a real bug that can be fixed, thus improving Fedora fo everybody :) | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | installation process is fine ;) | 19:22 |
| javispedro | sorry M4rtinK I did switch to Fedora because they did not pass my simple Bluetooth functionality test =) | 19:22 |
| javispedro | *did not | 19:22 |
| Dr_Cain | hmm, where do the tmp files for paid android apps end up nowadays? not in app-private? | 19:22 |
| javispedro | dammit typos. | 19:22 |
| M4rtinK | thaks! :-) | 19:22 |
| javispedro | M4rtinK: then again no distro passed the test =) | 19:22 |
| javispedro | except Debian stable.............. | 19:23 |
| M4rtinK | yeah - I blame the bluez guys | 19:23 |
| javispedro | but I want rolling =) | 19:23 |
| M4rtinK | the like to drop features without replacement | 19:23 |
| M4rtinK | *they | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | systemd-bluetooth? | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:24 |
| M4rtinK | well, thats a bit too crazy even for systemd | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | is it.. | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:24 |
| javispedro | Dr_Cain: you mean AlienDalvik? maybe /mnt/asec or /data/app-asec? | 19:24 |
| Dr_Cain | hmm | 19:25 |
| Dr_Cain | let's see | 19:25 |
| javispedro | M4rtinK: wait a few months | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | systemd-telephony | 19:25 |
| M4rtinK | but IIRC thats how systemd-networkd was created - someone sent patches, they liked them and integrated it | 19:25 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah.. :P | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | tbh i wouldn't mind that terribly. | 19:25 |
| Dr_Cain | javispedro: nope those are empty | 19:25 |
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| Stskeeps | :P | 19:25 |
| javispedro | Dr_Cain: are you sure aliendalvik supports paid app storage? maybe it just dumps it with the rest | 19:26 |
| javispedro | whyyy | 19:26 |
| M4rtinK | AFAIK Lennart has a Jolla as it is the first comercially released phone with systemd | 19:26 |
| javispedro | meh | 19:26 |
| M4rtinK | so who knows :) | 19:26 |
| javispedro | just realized I have what technically is the first smartwatch with systemd. | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | pfft | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | i had systemd on the gear1 before | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:27 |
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| javispedro | ok, "commercially released" then :) | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | point | 19:27 |
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| javispedro | also, turns out I registered in XDAdevs in 2008 | 19:28 |
| javispedro | wth was I doing there | 19:28 |
| Dr_Cain | javispedro: well not officially :) | 19:28 |
| Dr_Cain | but it did work before | 19:28 |
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| javispedro | meh, that's before I registered in TMO. | 19:29 |
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| kimmoli | reminded about this https://plus.google.com/115547683951727699051/posts/Vk77SRrqNEy | 19:30 |
| javispedro | btw | 19:30 |
| javispedro | since this is fun of systemd fans | 19:31 |
| javispedro | *full | 19:31 |
| javispedro | does using a systemd user session imply that I should see a "systemd --user" process in pstree? | 19:31 |
| javispedro | from which all user session processes hang from? | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | i'd assume so | 19:31 |
| tortoisedoc | hei Sailors | 19:32 |
| javispedro | well this systemd --user process is missing on gear2 | 19:32 |
| tortoisedoc | is the code for the qml flickable component available somewhere? | 19:32 |
| javispedro | either they do something terribly horrible and unimaginibably evil such as killing systemd --user after it launches all processes | 19:32 |
| javispedro | or systemd has gained a new "single process multiple sessions" feature | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | we might be on a early iteration. | 19:32 |
| javispedro | tortoisedoc: that's from qt itself so it's available, but in c++ | 19:33 |
| javispedro | hm.. unless you mean silicaflickable | 19:33 |
| tortoisedoc | javispedro : no the original flickable :) | 19:34 |
| tortoisedoc | damn c++ | 19:34 |
| tortoisedoc | : | 19:34 |
| tortoisedoc | :| | 19:34 |
| tortoisedoc | qt never disappoints you when it comes to digging -_-; | 19:34 |
| javispedro | tortoisedoc: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtdeclarative/source/bbd8080e952e7fd4c98dd67a1523dd8fd1c0c006:src/quick/items/qquickflickable.cpp | 19:34 |
| kimmoli | FYI ... as we gained 2nd TOH EEPROM vendor id today, i made TJC wiki about those. https://together.jolla.com/question/53927/wiki-toh-eeprom-vendor-and-device-id/ | 19:34 |
| javispedro | tortoisedoc: probably not an "easy read", though... | 19:35 |
| * tortoisedoc grabs the showel | 19:36 | |
| tortoisedoc | no worries, im a a professional :) | 19:37 |
| javispedro | famous last words. | 19:37 |
| javispedro | :) | 19:37 |
| coderus | is using Component.onCompleted: fillData() okay or there is possibility to init component after all properties are set? | 19:37 |
| coderus | i created class and exported it to qml using qmlRegisterComponent | 19:37 |
| coderus | i have some properties | 19:38 |
| coderus | and want to be sure all of them are set when my constructor/init called | 19:38 |
| javispedro | couldn't do that in qtquick1 at least :( | 19:38 |
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| javispedro | coderus: probably you can't, because it wouldn't be good if your property setters were called before the constructor was. | 19:40 |
| javispedro | from a C++ PoV at least. | 19:40 |
| coderus | javispedro: sure | 19:40 |
| coderus | but in most cases (for model and i.e.) proerties are set up quickly | 19:41 |
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| javispedro | I suspect that you could either do a explicit nowImDone() method you'd call from QML | 19:41 |
| coderus | yup | 19:42 |
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| coderus | currently i'm using Component.onCompleted: fillData() | 19:42 |
| javispedro | or assume they're valid after a QTimer with delay 0 expires, though I am not sure of that. | 19:42 |
| coderus | and in one case calling that from page status changed | 19:42 |
| coderus | because in that situation i'm calling it with parameter from other component | 19:43 |
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| coderus | and now i sohuld be sure that component is ready and returned valid value before :D | 19:43 |
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| javispedro | dunno, I guess this is an style problem more than anything | 19:44 |
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| javispedro | now regarding that systemd thing... | 19:46 |
| javispedro | https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bZId5j2jREQ/U-vlysklvCI/AAAAAAAACrA/B4JggkVJi38/w480-h320-no/bd0fb252416206158627fb0b1bff9b4779dca13f.gif | 19:46 |
| javispedro | that GIF is _great_ :) | 19:46 |
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| ShadowJK | rofl | 19:50 |
| ShadowJK | awesome | 19:50 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : have you used PulleyAnimationHint ? | 19:50 |
| tortoisedoc | javispedro : one service to rule them all! :P | 19:51 |
| javispedro | well, gtg, cya! | 19:51 |
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| Naranek | :D | 19:52 |
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| cameris | coderus: about your fillData(): is this to populate a c++ model? if so you could subclass your model from QQmlParserStatus. its componentCompleted function is called when all properties are set (see doc). | 20:58 |
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| tadzik | urgh, QSqlDatabase says it opened the db just fine, but then says that it has 0 tables :\ | 21:29 |
| tadzik | worked outside of the sdk | 21:29 |
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| cameris | tadzik: with a preexisting db? check if it is really included. | 21:40 |
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| tadzik | cameris: it's in the project files, after .open() .lastError() says "Database ok" | 21:42 |
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| tadzik | maybe it gets incorrectly copied to the mervm | 21:43 |
| tadzik | it's over 13 megabytes | 21:44 |
| tadzik | -rw-r--r-- 1 nemo nemo 0 2014-08-20 00:12 dnd35.db | 21:46 |
| tadzik | yeah, that explains things :/ | 21:46 |
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| tadzik | not that I know why it suddenly ends up in home for no reason | 21:52 |
| tadzik | interestingly, when I moved the db to qml/ and told the code to load it from there it resulted in "Error: out of memory Error opening database" | 21:57 |
| smoku | is there a way to grab video "screenshot" directly from the device? (without resorting to recording the screen with a camera) | 22:15 |
| M4rtinK | smoku: maybe some gstreamer magic ? | 22:16 |
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| enedil | Hi! | 22:20 |
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| M4rtinK | Hello! | 22:25 |
| * M4rtinK answers | 22:25 | |
| cameris | well, gn8 folks. | 22:25 |
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