Monday, 2014-07-21

Waspbut as far as i worked out in 2 days, there is not "cool" input as well on sailfish00:00
Waspjust rudimentary UI keyboard00:01
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Nicd-coderus: I have 100 % CPU in the latest mitakuuluu07:01
Nicd-I'll try to delete all my settings07:01
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m4g0ghello07:08
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m4g0gwho can explain me how does android application show notifications if it wasn't run? Why nativa applications can't do it?07:09
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m4g0gjmlich: hi. Can you push last changes. I want to add some features to client07:46
jmlichm4g0g, repo is up to date. I have changes only in my mind (-;07:48
m4g0g=)07:48
m4g0gYou have said about crash07:48
jmlichI haven't solved that problem07:48
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m4g0gjmlich: how I can reproduce this crash?07:49
jmlichIt seems it is caused by starting PositionSource {}. To reproduce just refresh list of nearby venues07:51
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m4g0gjmlich: argh. I should use my jolla for testing (07:52
jmlichThe problem appeared with os update07:53
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m4g0ghm. foursail  on my jolla works good without crashes07:53
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m4g0gsomethimes I think that using mix of qml and c++ in foursail - it's good idea. Pure qml applications is sucks07:56
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Nicd-coderus: I deleted my settings and now no more busyloop :) so far so good07:59
m4g0gjmlich:  we should implement all necessary features this week because in sunday I will travel to germany and I need good foursquare application08:03
jmlich(-;08:03
SK_workare you two people working on 4sail ? :)08:03
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m4g0gSK_work: no. jmlich - only he. i contribute sometimes08:06
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tortoisedoccan anyone tell me08:32
tortoisedocif a css+ qml example exists somewhere?08:32
m4g0gWhy does android application can notify without running this application but native application can't do it?08:32
m4g0gthat*08:33
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coderustortoisedoc: of course no :)08:38
coderuscss is a part of meegotouch08:38
coderusnot qml08:38
tortoisedochmm08:40
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tortoisedoccoderus : well does that exclude automatically the possibility to have it in qml? :P08:40
tortoisedoc( i do not know if it is good or bad idea btw)08:40
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Nicd-what would you do with CSS in QML anyway?08:41
tortoisedocNicd- : use css for what it is good for?08:42
tortoisedoci.e. styling of qml components?08:42
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tortoisedocthere is probably an alternative08:42
tortoisedocbut I am not aware of it08:42
coderusi cant understand what do you want to do with css and why you can't do same with plain qml08:43
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Nicd-well, afaik (and with some googling), there's no way to use css in qml08:44
tortoisedoccoderus : the point is not that it can be made in qml or not08:44
tortoisedocpoint is, what is the best way to implement stylizeable qml components ?08:44
tortoisedocthe closest solution for it which comes to my mind is css08:44
tortoisedocwhich does not mean it cannot be made in qml :P08:45
coderustortoisedoc: using plain QtQuick components and style it as you wish :)08:45
tortoisedocbut in qml I need to make it from scratch08:45
coderuscss is scratch too08:45
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tortoisedocactually08:45
tortoisedocwhat would be handy from css08:45
tortoisedocis the class system08:45
tortoisedocrewrite, the class attribute08:46
coderustortoisedoc: you can d it with widgest based system, not declarative :)08:46
tortoisedoc;_;08:46
tortoisedochmm maybe a combination of javascript + oncomplete events08:47
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tortoisedoccould mock up a decent solution08:47
Nicd-tortoisedoc: take a look at this: https://qt-project.org/wiki/QmlStyling08:48
tortoisedocNicd- : thanks!08:49
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tortoisedocpragmas in qml *shrugs*08:51
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rusty88hii guys09:25
rusty88I've been trying to port sailfish os to GS3 i9300 but I've run into a problem can someone help me09:25
rusty88ERROR: i9300 does not have mountpoint fixup data - see SailfishOS HADK for details on how to fix this Check: device/samsung/i9300/recovery.fstab09:26
sledgesrusty88: #sailfishos-porters09:26
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rusty88ok, thanks sledges09:26
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sledgeswe :)09:27
Nicd-sledges: that sounds like you're saying 'whatever :)' :D09:29
sledgeslol09:29
sledgesdarn09:29
sledgeswould whatever be w/e instead? :))09:29
sledgesprobably depends on mood of the perceiver :))09:29
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sledgesNicd-: i'll switch to we(lcome) :))09:37
Nicd-how about yw? if you want to be short :P09:39
sledgesmeh that's mainstream09:39
sledgesi'm encouraging "do it together"=we ;)09:39
Nicd-hipster09:39
sledgesjust like sailfish isn't mainstream ;)09:39
Nicd-we are all hipsters! :O09:40
sledgesVo09:40
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rusty88ahah if using sailfish will make me a hipster, I'll be happy to become one :P09:41
sledgeswell, when one shows up with jolla, what reactions do they get? :))09:42
SK_worksledges: does it have apps ? :d09:43
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SK_workyeah it can run native and android09:43
SK_workor "it's beautiful, what phone is it ?"09:44
SK_worknokia ? :D09:44
Nicd-I switched back my "The First One" OH to show how hipster I am09:45
sledges:)) i bought a watch to match :D09:45
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SK_worksledges: which one ?09:47
m4g0gwhy native applications can't show notifiactions as android?09:47
sledgesSK_work: matches white and firstone (see logo :) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Timberland-13327JSTB-01-Mens-Watch-T13327JSTB-01/dp/B007C6DM3W/ref=sr_1_32?m=A3EUB2ROB27R9P&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1401902876&sr=1-3209:48
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m4g0ghow to upload image via XmlHTTPRequest?10:01
m4g0gI should do it via http.send (imageContent)?10:01
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jmlichm4g0g, I would google words as XMLHttpRequest multipart boundary10:58
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guaqua```is there a way to detect device builds vs emulator builds during the compile-time?  (both .pro-file and cpp files)11:17
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m4g0gjmlich:  i don't understand. How I can use mutlipart if doc says to use image/jpeg11:21
jmlichm4g0g, oh, I wasn't looking into 4sq docs11:21
m4g0gIn addition, the image file data must be posted. The photo should be uploaded as a jpeg and the Content-Type should be set to "image/jpeg". Images may not exceed 5MB in size.11:22
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Price15I just wanted to say thanks.14:00
Price15Really excited that the phone is coming to India.14:00
Price15Plus good work on getting the HADK up lets see what the community does with it14:01
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carepackgeneral question. instead of using the alien dalvik (which is not included) is it possible (technically) to use the undelying dalvik runtime from android?15:05
carepackedit: not included in nexus 415:06
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tabhoohey all, i'd like to switch to sailfish os. is the jolla phone recommended for best experience, even over some of the ports to android devices offering a better hardware?19:37
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smokutabhoo: yes.19:45
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tabhoosmoku: even though the hardware, on paper, is quite old now?20:01
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coderustabhoo: yes20:04
camerisI have a QAbstractListModel derived class, in the docs it says it inherits from QObject, so parent() should be available to the class. But it does not compile complaining it has no function parent().20:05
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smokutabhoo: if you want to switch to sailfish, not experiment with half baked port - you need to go for the full jolla phone experience.20:13
smokutabhoo: besides sailfish even on this "on paper quite old" hardware flies, compared to android on more recent hardware20:14
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Armadillosomeone already managed to get the HADK working on another Android device which is not on the current libhybris list?20:19
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ArmadilloI'm thinking about to try it out for my Motorola Photon Q, but I don't know if it is currently worth the time which has to be investedto get it working20:20
tabhoosmoku: thanks - i appreciate the response. been reading some reviews and i can see that the OS performs very well on the jolla hardware. i suppose the only real concern i have remaining is going from my current 332ppi display to the 245ppi on the jolla phone.20:21
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coderuscameris: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/filemodel/src/filemodel.h20:28
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smokutabhoo: I moved from Motorola Razr HD and never looked back :)20:35
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cameriscoderus: Ofc I'm passing a QObject as parent in the constructor, but when I try to this->parent() inside a function, the compiler throws the error.20:41
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stephgArmadillo: the Galaxy Nexus was added today20:42
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Armadillonice20:43
stephg(and according the community folks doing it, a surprisingly large amount of stuff works out of the box)20:44
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Armadillomaybe I have some time at the weekend to try it myself :)20:44
Armadillothanks20:45
smokucameris: would help if you copy-paste the error :)20:45
stephgif you want help/pointers/support get yourself over to #sailfish-porters20:45
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stephgtabhoo: the jolla has more features (software-wise) than any of the other android handsets can/will have20:46
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camerissmoku: 'error: no matching function for call to 'ActivityModel::parent() const'20:47
camerishmm, it works when I use QObject::parent() instead of this->parent().20:47
smokucameris: what about just "parent()" without this-> ?20:48
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cameris/usr/include/qt5/QtCore/qabstractitemmodel.h:454:17: error: 'virtual QModelIndex QAbstractListModel::parent(const QModelIndex&) const' is private20:50
cameris../ir-remote/src/activitymodel.cpp:22:48: error: within this context20:50
cameris../ir-remote/src/activitymodel.cpp:22:55: error: no matching function for call to 'ActivityModel::parent() const'20:50
cameris../ir-remote/src/activitymodel.cpp:22:55: note: candidate is:20:50
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camerisseems there is an overloaded parent-function in QAbstractListModel, don't know why it does not get to the QObject-function.20:52
smokucameris: doh... C++ prefers overloading over overriding20:53
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smokucameris: if it finds a function on a level, it does not bother looking ascentry anymore20:54
camerissmoku: ah, nice to know.20:54
smoku"nice"... if you call it ;-)20:54
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camerissmoku: so QObject::parent() it is then. thx for the help.20:54
tabhoostephg: got it! :) i was initially curious if a ported sailfish os on something like the nexus 5 would offer a better experience as it has all the software features but "better hardware"20:55
smokunow I remember it has bitten me too at my current work.  good that we have few C++ wizz to ask questions ;-)20:55
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tabhoostephg: though i think i'll be happier with the native hardware20:55
stephgtabhoo: well it depends how much you want/need the device to do: if you're going to be 100% happy with F/OSS software and can wait for some of the features (e.g. camera) then an android will suit you just fine20:56
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stephgif you want android apps, for example, or need all of the features to work out-of-the-box then you'd want a jolla20:57
stephgand if you want to support them, you'd want a jolla too ;)20:57
tabhoothanks for the advice. i've just placed an order for the jolla. :)20:58
stephg:)20:58
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smokulatest release notes mentioned possibility to add web pages to launcher. how do I do that?21:33
stephgsmoku: from the browser pulley menu21:33
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smokustephg: thanks. I would never find it because of the unfortunate polish translation ;-)21:35
stephghehe, it's a little unintuive anyway, go to the page, then go to the new tab page, then pulley...21:36
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smokuand there I have "Add to Launcher Tools" ;-)21:37
stephger, ! :)21:37
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stephgbedtiem! g'night folks21:42
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MFaro-Tusinoahoy!23:21
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MFaro-Tusinoquick question, easiest way to scp from emulator to my host? I’ve tried going from emulator (via ssh) to host and get connection time out, and the other way results in connection refused23:22
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