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| gexc | are there examples for multitap characterkeys? | 02:28 |
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| stephg | give me an f, give me an r, give me an i... | 06:46 |
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| pp_ | android support downloads are a good indicator of sales :-) | 06:48 |
| pp_ | 25000+ | 06:49 |
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| Scelt | stephg: gimme mushrooms! | 07:22 |
| Scelt | fridayfridayfriday | 07:22 |
| Scelt | mushrooms mushrooms | 07:22 |
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| stephg | hehe | 07:23 |
| carepack | lol | 07:23 |
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| phlixi | pp_: for a long time I didnt installed it, there might be others ;) | 07:28 |
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| pp_ | could be yea :-) | 07:44 |
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| cos- | http://qiantiguan.taobao.com/ | 08:49 |
| Nicd- | it's fake, don't buy it | 08:50 |
| cos- | any details? does it actually run sailfish or is it some hacked android? | 08:51 |
| Nicd- | apparently the phones are real and run sailfish, but not legally sold | 08:52 |
| Nicd- | so might be bought from europe and resold or stolen from factory or something | 08:52 |
| Nicd- | or devices rejected by QA | 08:53 |
| cos- | or just traditional chinese after hours work from the same factory | 08:53 |
| ryukafalz | huh, fake Jollas... | 08:53 |
| ryukafalz | If they are actually stolen that makes sense | 08:54 |
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| ryukafalz | otherwise, why can't they just not use the Jolla branding and then they'd be just fine =/ | 08:54 |
| cos- | i wonder where are the official licensed third party sailfish phones | 08:56 |
| Nicd- | are there any? | 08:56 |
| ryukafalz | I haven't taken a look at the Sailfish license, but would you need a special license to distribute it? | 08:57 |
| cos- | not announced yet | 08:57 |
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| Nicd- | ryukafalz: yes, it's not fully open source | 08:57 |
| ryukafalz | The Mer bits and Nemo bits are fine, not sure about Silica, etc. | 08:57 |
| cos- | afaik jolla's main business is to license the os to 3rd party device makers | 08:57 |
| ryukafalz | cos-: Ahh, hmm. Haven't heard much about that side of it. | 08:58 |
| cos- | ryukafalz: yep, sailfish is not foss and you need license | 08:58 |
| ryukafalz | I know it's not FOSS, just wasn't sure how much the license allowed for :P | 08:58 |
| ryukafalz | like presumably the various released builds have a license associated with them, is that personal use only or? | 08:59 |
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| lbt | So there's a fishy odour in the air... | 09:07 |
| lbt | smells like haddock | 09:07 |
| lbt | yes ... the Hardware Adaptation Dev Kit 1.0 - http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/2014-07-18_SailfishOSHardwareAdaptationDevelopmentKit.pdf | 09:07 |
| Nicd- | :O | 09:08 |
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| Anarky | yeah \o/ | 09:08 |
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| Nicd- | I love that it too says this may lead to hair loss | 09:09 |
| Nicd- | gotta cover all possibilities | 09:09 |
| Anarky | lbt: I'm curious, did you try to make a port to an Android tablet to see how the UI behaves? | 09:11 |
| lbt | yep - not seen it myself though | 09:11 |
| lbt | feel free to give it a go | 09:11 |
| Anarky | I plan to try on my phone first :) | 09:12 |
| Anarky | the tablet I have is a prototype and except for the kernel the sources weren't delivered :/ | 09:13 |
| lbt | we'll take HADK detailed technical stuff into #sailfishos-porters too btw | 09:14 |
| ryukafalz | HADK yessss | 09:14 |
| ryukafalz | also I didn't know #sailfishos-porters was a thing | 09:15 |
| * ryukafalz hangs out in #nemomobile-porters | 09:15 | |
| Scelt | HADK reminds me of GECK | 09:16 |
| Scelt | maybe there is something similar | 09:17 |
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| carepack | great. email received atm. congrats for first hadk release | 09:48 |
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| sledges | carepack: you mean, "no email received yet"? | 10:10 |
| sledges | thanks for congrats :) | 10:11 |
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| ryukafalz | sledges: Do you know where I might find the license info for the early adopter images? Just curious now from that conversation up there ^ | 10:44 |
| coderus | GPS not working in android AT ALL for me. Any ideas how to fix it? | 10:47 |
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| sledges | ryukafalz: Sailfish OS EULA applies | 10:58 |
| sledges | coderus: context pls? :) | 10:58 |
| coderus | sledges: what context? | 11:00 |
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| coderus | gps not working in android apps | 11:00 |
| sledges | which device android | 11:00 |
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| sledges | ah android apps | 11:00 |
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| coderus | jolla | 11:00 |
| sledges | wasn't there a ticket on tjc after u8 ? | 11:00 |
| sledges | on this | 11:00 |
| ryukafalz | sledges: Oh, okay, I kept searching for "license" rather than "EULA", which is why I couldn't find it. Thanks! | 11:01 |
| sledges | we :) | 11:01 |
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| coderus | sledges: yeah, something about GPS may have problems, but for me it's not working at ll for all apps | 11:07 |
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| coderus | even if stock maps running and gps working | 11:08 |
| coderus | android apps are not receiving gps data | 11:08 |
| coderus | i really don't want to downgrade os :( | 11:08 |
| sledges | strange, i remember using gmaps fine with u8 | 11:09 |
| sledges | yep, it works fine, just tested | 11:10 |
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| carepack | no. I've got an email?! | 11:14 |
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| carepack | terribele :-) | 11:15 |
| carepack | terrible | 11:15 |
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| TemeV | I'm trying to compile telegram-cli with sailfishos sdk, and I get error "openssl/err.h: No such file or directory" | 11:43 |
| SK_work | TemeV: missing some openssl include i think ? | 11:44 |
| TemeV | what should I install and where, to get that work? | 11:44 |
| SK_work | zypper se openssl | 11:44 |
| SK_work | something like openssl-devel ? | 11:44 |
| TemeV | to the buid virtual machine? | 11:44 |
| SK_work | TemeV: yep | 11:44 |
| SK_work | sb2 -t <ARCH> -R | 11:45 |
| SK_work | and then, zypper stuff | 11:45 |
| TemeV | where do I find the ip for virtual machine? | 11:46 |
| SK_work | TemeV: ssh -p 2222 mersdk@localhost | 11:47 |
| SK_work | with some key | 11:47 |
| SK_work | one sec | 11:47 |
| SK_work | can't find it :( | 11:48 |
| TemeV | is there a tutorial for this kind of stuff? I tried to google but couldn't find | 11:49 |
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| SK_work | TemeV: http://sailfishdev.tumblr.com/post/86690217922/build-an-application-with-sailfish-sdk | 11:50 |
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| TemeV | SK_work: thanks, I try to figure this out :) | 11:51 |
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| TemeV | "File './core/armv7hl/openssl-devel-1.0.1h-1.4.1.armv7hl.rpm' not found on medium 'http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/jolla/armv7hl/'" | 11:59 |
| TemeV | oh, you got paste also, that was ment for google :) | 12:01 |
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| kaltsi | TemeV: maybe you have the old sdk.. the repository urls were changed in the 1407 sdk and that url is no longer valid | 12:08 |
| TemeV | I installed the new one | 12:08 |
| kaltsi | that's an old url and cannot come from the new one | 12:09 |
| TemeV | hmm... I'm quite sure it was the newest | 12:09 |
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| TemeV | where is the version number so I can check? | 12:10 |
| kaltsi | we can check.. in installdir there's a text file called sdk-release.. | 12:10 |
| kaltsi | does it say 1406 or 1407 or do you have that file at all | 12:10 |
| TemeV | 1406, so I downloaded a wrong file :/ | 12:10 |
| kaltsi | :( | 12:10 |
| kaltsi | btw when did you download it? | 12:11 |
| TemeV | quite soon after publishing | 12:11 |
| kaltsi | I'm just wondering how did you get a link to that file.. | 12:11 |
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| kaltsi | perhaps the caches take a while to update around the world | 12:12 |
| TemeV | time stamp is 15 july 2014 11:52 | 12:13 |
| kaltsi | 11:52 .. what time zone :) | 12:13 |
| TemeV | gmt+2 | 12:13 |
| TemeV | (in germany) | 12:13 |
| kaltsi | the publish was 12:00 UTC, which would be 14 german time | 12:14 |
| TemeV | oh, so I was too much in rush to download :) | 12:14 |
| kaltsi | yeah :) | 12:14 |
| TemeV | there is still no way to update without uninstalling, right? | 12:15 |
| kaltsi | the update does remove everything.. except some qt creator settings | 12:16 |
| TemeV | ok, thanks for help. I install the new SDK and try again :) | 12:17 |
| kaltsi | yw | 12:17 |
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| elenril | hmm, why are there two VMs in the sdk? | 13:13 |
| elenril | a 'MerSDK' and a 'SailfishOS Emulator' | 13:13 |
| roboro | exactly that... one is an emulator and one is a build environment | 13:15 |
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| roboro | you don't have to use the emulator... you can use a jolla phone for that if you want | 13:15 |
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| roboro | but you will nearly always build on the merSDK VM | 13:16 |
| elenril | ah, ok | 13:16 |
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| roboro | personally I never use the emulator... I just build and then run on my phone | 13:18 |
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| Nicd- | I wish I had enough memory to run the emulator :D | 13:19 |
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| elenril | i'm trying to do a bit of a frankensetup here, with the virtualbox on a different host than the sdk | 13:19 |
| elenril | wonder if that will work | 13:20 |
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| kaltsi | elenril: won't work unfortunately, everything assumes localhost | 13:21 |
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| TemeV | Now I'm getting this error | 13:55 |
| TemeV | /srv/mer/targets/SailfishOS-armv7hl/lib/librt.so.1:-1: error: could not read symbols: Invalid operation | 13:55 |
| TemeV | I guess this would bee too much fun, if things would just compile :) | 13:55 |
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| kaltsi | meh? | 14:01 |
| kaltsi | at least linking with -lrt works for me.. | 14:01 |
| kaltsi | did it ever work or are you creating a new program with possible link order problems? | 14:03 |
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| TemeV | I'm trying to compile telegram-cli | 14:05 |
| kaltsi | what is it.. new code, old code? | 14:05 |
| TemeV | old code | 14:05 |
| TemeV | c code actually | 14:05 |
| kaltsi | is that the only error you get.. anything before it? | 14:06 |
| kaltsi | anything about DSO? | 14:06 |
| TemeV | no, all object files seem to be there | 14:06 |
| TemeV | so it compiles ok | 14:06 |
| kaltsi | mmm.. isn't that a compile time error? | 14:06 |
| kaltsi | or build time.. possibly link time error | 14:07 |
| lainwir3d | :-( | 14:07 |
| lainwir3d | i can't deploy anymore | 14:07 |
| lainwir3d | "Fatal error: Failed to obtain authentication." | 14:07 |
| kaltsi | lainwir3d: you are using pkcon aren't you? | 14:07 |
| lainwir3d | I used it one time I think | 14:07 |
| lainwir3d | is that bad ? | 14:07 |
| kaltsi | well your deploy is using pkcon | 14:07 |
| kaltsi | or what do you mean with deploy :) | 14:08 |
| lainwir3d | oh | 14:08 |
| lainwir3d | yeah | 14:08 |
| lainwir3d | with Qt Creator | 14:08 |
| lainwir3d | when I tried to launch my app | 14:08 |
| kaltsi | which sdk do you have? | 14:08 |
| TemeV | I think it is link time error, but not really sure. I have to get my brains back to gcc mode. It has been a while since I've been using it :) | 14:08 |
| lainwir3d | kaltsi: I don't know, but i just noticed that it's not up to date anymore | 14:08 |
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| kaltsi | TemeV: it's link time yes.. but can be caused by a missing library or library given in wrong order.. compilers/linkers changed rules/conventions some years ago | 14:09 |
| kaltsi | lainwir3d: yep.. the 1.0.8.x software on the phone does not allow installing packages with 'pkcon' as nemo anymore | 14:09 |
| kaltsi | lainwir3d: if you don't want to update but just quickly want to test.. you can fix this in qtcreator easily | 14:09 |
| lainwir3d | I'll update :) | 14:10 |
| lainwir3d | thank you for your quick answer ! | 14:10 |
| kaltsi | lainwir3d: in qt creator open the 'projects' tab and select Run settings for the arm kit | 14:10 |
| kaltsi | ah.. if you're going to update, then I won't say no more :) | 14:10 |
| lainwir3d | it's still good to know I guess | 14:10 |
| lainwir3d | haha | 14:10 |
| lainwir3d | ok :P | 14:10 |
| kaltsi | well there are the deploy options.. it says --pkcon somewhere.. change that to --sdk :) | 14:11 |
| lainwir3d | ok :) | 14:11 |
| lainwir3d | thanks ! | 14:11 |
| kaltsi | lainwir3d: but I do recommend updating | 14:16 |
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| King_DuckZ | hello, anybody succeeded at sending files to a jolla phone from a linux pc, through bluetooth? I can send from phone to pc fine, but not the other way round | 14:32 |
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| carepack | few weeks ago here was a discussion about open source messenger and end to end encryption / security | 14:38 |
| carepack | had textsecure be a part of it? It's fully open source and end to end encrypted | 14:38 |
| TemeV | carepack: telegram maybe. I think if you use "secret chat" it is end to end encrypted | 14:40 |
| TemeV | clients are open source but server is closed | 14:40 |
| special | carepack: https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:activity-desc/page:1/query:textsecure/ | 14:40 |
| special | carepack: TemeV: http://akulichalexandr.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/telegram-connection-manager-gsoc-2014-task-overview/ is also neat | 14:41 |
| TemeV | How do I change linker flags from qt creator? If I just change makefile, qt creator overwrites it | 14:41 |
| special | if there's a Telepathy CM for telegram, it can go on the device and give us telegram support in native messaging. | 14:41 |
| Dotti | TemeV: add QMAKE_LFLAGS += myflags to your .pro file | 14:42 |
| carepack | ok. Would only mention it. telegram is no option for me. threema is my favourite choice | 14:42 |
| TemeV | Dotti: thanks | 14:42 |
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| King_DuckZ | hm actually I can send stuff, but only mp3 and jpg... no ogg nor flac? wth? the phone is refusing them? | 14:43 |
| SK_work | TemeV: Telegram is IIRC trust the server | 14:44 |
| TemeV | SK_work: with normal chats, yes | 14:45 |
| lainwir3d | "bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''" :-( | 14:45 |
| King_DuckZ | am I the only one having this issue? | 14:45 |
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| TemeV | But I don't really care. I use whatsapp, and biggest issue with that is, that I can't have a pc client | 14:46 |
| King_DuckZ | I can send .flac fine from pc to symbian... I will try from symbian to sailfish as well | 14:47 |
| lainwir3d | kaltsi: better, but another error message appeared | 14:50 |
| lainwir3d | http://pastebin.com/2p8hQcK3 | 14:51 |
| King_DuckZ | that didn't work either... so what's the problem? nobody knows? is there a bug tracker somewhere? | 14:52 |
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| Nicd- | King_DuckZ: my OS X just doesn't even show the option of sending a file to the phone, so I guess it's not supported | 14:54 |
| ryukafalz | Not the biggest fan of Telegram - it's not really any better than XMPP IMO | 14:54 |
| TemeV | Nicd-: mine does | 14:55 |
| TemeV | King_DuckZ: I just gave it a try and sending file to Jolla seems to be working | 14:55 |
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| King_DuckZ | TemeV: I can send .jpg and .mp3, but not .flac, .ogg, .txt... not even from symbian | 14:59 |
| King_DuckZ | TemeV: what file did you send? | 14:59 |
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| TemeV | some random .txt | 15:00 |
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| King_DuckZ | TemeV: weird :/ | 15:01 |
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| King_DuckZ | TemeV: is there some sort of whitelist somewhere? | 15:04 |
| TemeV | no idea | 15:04 |
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| TemeV | I don't have any flacs to try | 15:05 |
| King_DuckZ | I just tried with a pdf, no luck either | 15:06 |
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| TemeV | .pdf works fine also | 15:10 |
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| King_DuckZ | T_T | 15:11 |
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| King_DuckZ | TemeV: https://together.jolla.com/question/1302/bluetooth-file-transfer-for-all-file-types/ | 15:14 |
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| lainwir3d | Please, does someone know about this error message ? http://pastebin.com/2p8hQcK3 | 15:15 |
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| lainwir3d | when trying to deploy an app to the jolla | 15:15 |
| lainwir3d | with the latest sdk | 15:15 |
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| TemeV | it might help if it was not in French :) | 15:15 |
| lainwir3d | oh sorry | 15:15 |
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| lainwir3d | I'll translate | 15:15 |
| lainwir3d | or launch the sdk in en | 15:16 |
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| TemeV | I most likely can't help you anyway, but most people understand English better | 15:16 |
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| lainwir3d | true | 15:17 |
| lainwir3d | here we go : http://pastebin.com/LBCnXUFu | 15:17 |
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| King_DuckZ | TemeV: I think they broke something with v 1.0.8.19, which is the one I have... do you have the same version as well? | 15:18 |
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| King_DuckZ | I see reports about syncing contacts with old phones not working, which happens to me as well | 15:18 |
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| TemeV | King_DuckZ: yes, I have that version also | 15:19 |
| King_DuckZ | :/ | 15:19 |
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| King_DuckZ | what do I have to install to have xmpp chat? | 15:20 |
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| TemeV | King_DuckZ: I'd say #jollamobile is better channel for these questions | 15:21 |
| King_DuckZ | TemeV: ah I didn't know sorry... should I ask about my bluetooth problem there as well? | 15:22 |
| TemeV | You can try, maybe there is someone who had similiar issues | 15:24 |
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| Nightmare__ | coderus: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1433276&postcount=1430 i can confirm that one with 0.8.1-2 | 15:33 |
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| coderus | Nightmare__: proof? | 15:39 |
| Nightmare__ | https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_SufwEBV2XkSE9QcDVRYk1hQW8/edit?usp=sharing | 15:41 |
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| rusty88 | is there someone wanting to work on the port of sailfish to the galaxy s3 i9330 ? since the HADK should be quite easy | 15:46 |
| coderus | Nightmare__: where is logfile? | 15:46 |
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| Nightmare__ | fixed it :D, somehow on mitakuuluu.conf group write was disabled, i was unable to save settings (enable log). after changing permissions und mita restart the high usage was gone | 15:50 |
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| Nightmare__ | *mitakuuluu2.conf | 15:52 |
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| Schrostfutz | hi, what does the sdk installer do? I dont want to execute it without knowing how it affects my system | 17:50 |
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| dpurgin | Schrostfutz, unpacks the SDK files to the folder of your choice | 18:21 |
| dpurgin | no root account needed | 18:22 |
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| Schrostfutz | dpurgin: okay, thank you | 18:23 |
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| Nicd- | anyone here to help me with some anchor stuff? | 18:42 |
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| Nicd- | well, just in case someone is here, here's my code: https://gist.github.com/Nicd/518ca4d053d53e469555 | 18:51 |
| Nicd- | it works nicely so that the TextListComponent (which is a SilicaListView) takes up the space in the middle | 18:51 |
| Nicd- | but when I focus on the text field so that the keyboard comes up, the listview isn't made smaller, it disappears under the text field | 18:52 |
| Nicd- | also when I pull on my pulldownmenu, I can pull forever (it doesn't snap) until I can see the background image | 18:52 |
| Nicd- | sorry, pullupmenu | 18:52 |
| Nicd- | pushupmenu* :D | 18:53 |
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| smoku | kimmoli: about that settings stuff... | 20:48 |
| smoku | kimmoli: see https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-configuration/blob/master/tests/auto-qt5/tst_configurationgroup.qml and https://github.com/nemomobile/mlite/blob/master/src/mdconfgroup.h | 20:49 |
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